Wednesday, October 4, 2017

Some Answers, And More Questions

From Irish in comments

Zerohedge's Tyler Durden asked the following: Okay, I'll play; my answers in italics.

#1 Photos of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room have been leaked, and one of those photos appears to show a suicide note. Why hasn’t the public been told what is in that note?

No idea. A suicide note, manifesto, or any explanation for the event has been conspicuously lacking since Minute One of this thing.

#2 Were there additional shooters?  A taxi driver reportedly captured video of an automatic weapon being fired out of a lower level window.  A video from another angle and brief footage captured by Dan Bilzerian also seem to confirm that automatic gunfire was coming from a floor much lower than the 32nd floor room that Stephen Paddock was located on.  And if you weren’t convinced by the first three videos, this fourth video should definitely do it.

No idea. A second shooter is not necessary, though there was certainly time enough for there to be another shooter. The better question is how did these alleged bullets get through the intact glass panels on any of the other 42 floors of the Mandalay Bay Hotel if there was a second shooter.
Is that another Magic Bullet Theory?
A 4th floor shooter would also have been looking at a much worse angle of fire into the crowd, through sound and lighting towers in the way.
#3 Why were law enforcement authorities discussing “another suspect on the fourth floor”, and why isn’t the mainstream media talking about this?

Any story that points out the overwhelming derp of the MSM on anything more complicated than making ice is Occam's Razor in action. The media are idiots. The question for LVMPD officials is still "What did you know, and when did you know it?" And where's the security video of everyone who came and went from the Mandalay Bay, esp. the 32d floor, on the evening in question?

#4 As Jon Rappoport has pointed out, it would have been impossible for Stephen Paddock to kill and wound 573 people in less than five minutes of shooting with the kinds of weapons that he is alleged to have used.  So why won’t law enforcement authorities acknowledge this fact?

Because Jon Rappoport (Jon Who?) is an idiot too. I could have killed and wounded 573 people in less than 5 minutes, shooting bump-fired, full-auto, or even fast-fingered .223 and .308 fire into a herd of 22,000 people at a distance of 400m. And if I'd done it slow fire with a scope instead of a zero-magnification EOTech sight, my KIA tally would have been closer to 600 than the 58 it was. (But to be fair, I do have a wee bit of military training, qualified very high Expert on the weapons system 6 times, and have been shooting them for 35 years or so.) This isn't magic, it's physics.  This is exactly what they're designed to do: work flawlessly when hordes (in this case, 22,000 concert-goers, rather than screaming VC/NVA in the wire, but you get the point) are in your sights. If Rappoport can't figure it out, he's not tall enough for this ride, and knows exactly Jack and Squat about the weapons in question.

But you can believe me, or just listen to your lying eyes (Skip to 1:51 on the vid):

Any moron could get 600 rounds out of six of those mags and downrange in a little over a minute, maybe a minute and a half. (How many did Paddock have? I've heard twelve, but don't know if that twelve was all those 100-rounders.) I'd then have another four and a half minutes of scope-sighted slow fire, and I could guarantee you a higher body count than Mr. Mass Shooter had by two minutes into that, with enough time to eat a sandwich and down a soda afterwards, and still beat the six minute time hack. It's that Effing easy. And this is only one of twenty or forty such videos on YouTube.
Any questions?

#5 How in the world did Paddock get 42 guns and “several thousand rounds of ammo” into his hotel room without anyone noticing?

He had three days in a busy resort hotel. That's maybe 10 trips, or one per shift, per day, with time to spare. Not a particularly difficult feat. But there should be assloads of security video of those trips. (Or, far more likely, video of  other people making those trips, which exactly blows the "lone wolf" theory to pieces in 0.2 seconds. the better question is, "Where's the video? We had the video and stills of  ALL the 9/11 hijackers in less than a day.)

#6 How did someone with “no military background” and that wasn’t a “gun guy at all” operate such advanced weapons?  Because what we are being told by the mainstream media just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.  I really like how Natural News made this point…
Far from what the firearms-illiterate media claims, these are not systems that any Joe off the street can just pick up and use to effortlessly mow down 500 people. Running these systems requires extensive training, experience and stamina. It is physically impossible for a guy like Stephen Paddock to operate such a system in the sustained, effective manner that we witnessed, especially when shooting from an elevated position which throws off all the ranging of the weapon system.

Far from being a Navy Seal, Stephen Paddock is a retired accountant senior citizen with a gambling problem and a flabby physique. The only way he could have carried out this shooting is if he were transformed into a human superweapon through a magic wand. I’m calling this “Mission IMPOSSIBLE” because of the physical impossibility of a retired, untrained senior citizen pulling this off.
Natural News are idiots too. Joe off the street can pick up exactly this weapons system, and shoot people in such a fish-in-a-barrel venue until they run out of ammunition, or targets, by doing nothing more complicated than changing magazines. And with 100-rd capacity Surefire magazines, the mag changes aren't a big deal either, because there's far fewer of them to perform. It would take me maybe three to five minutes to perform, but given five minutes' practice, I could find a dozen flabby middle schoolers or senior citizens to pull it off, effortlessly, time after time after time.

And the Soviets' Kalashnikov platform is as simple as Stoner's AR platform to operate, which thousands of hours of video from every illiterate peasant revolt for the last 60 years has demonstrated over, and over, and over.

Jeezus Krispies, did nobody else watch Blackhawk Down, FFS? How about the Evening News anytime since 1950?

Natural News should get back on the porch. The shooting itself was the least complicated act of the whole incident. Putting spray-and-pray fire into 22,000 people, the biggest question I have is "How many rounds were fired, and how much brass is on the floor inside the room(s)?" The hardest thing about this shooting would be missing the other 21,400 people there.

#7 Why was one woman telling people in the crowd that they were all going to die 45 minutes before the attack?

I'd like to know that too.
Just spitballing, but "You're all going to die" has been a standard mental illness threat at least as long as I've been working with the deranged in the ER (25 years or so), so I'm not that stunned to hear it.
But the coincidence factor is very troubling, and I'd like to know who she and her male accomplice were.

#8 Why did it take law enforcement authorities 72 minutes to get into Stephen Paddock’s hotel room?

There is no rational explanation for that, unless it took 65 minutes for them to get there, dressed, and ready to play. Supposedly, the hotel had a smoke alarm activation from Paddock's suite (from the firing), and he'd also supposedly shot (or shot at) a security guard who investigated it. Which pretty well nails down the room by Minute Five to Ten. The other 62 minutes' lag is inexplicable. It also gives "someone" more than enough to split, and leave Patsy Paddock's steaming corpse there for the authorities to find.

So, the real $1M Question is, "When did LVMPD establish perimeter control on Paddock's room, where's the security video, and how many people could have clown-carred out of Vista Suite 32-135 before LVMPD SWAT decided to show up and lock it down???
Lacking answers, I have to assume you could have exfiltrated an entire Antifa mob, and nobody the wiser.

#9 Why did Paddock wire $100,000 to the Philippines last week?

Who wires any 62 y.o. troll $100K, ever? That whole angle, in the Capitol City and State of Hardbodies For Hire, begs credulity from start to finish.

#10 Why was Paddock’s girlfriend, Marilou Danley, in the Philippines when the attack took place?  Did she know what was about to happen?

Who, with that much cash, being retired, and in Nevada, hooks up with somebody that old, shriveled, and ugly? Paddock may not have been any Adonis either, but having a 12-inch WALLET has been an unbeatable lure in Vegas for going on 70 years, and in Western Civilization for several centuries.

#11 Was Paddock on antidepressants like so many other mass killers in the past have been?

I'd like to know his entire medical history, that being one of the sterling questions to answer.

#12 Why was ISIS so eager to take responsibility for this attack, and why was the FBI so quick to dismiss that connection?

ISIS is desperate, and the FBI spokeshole is a stupid jackass, but "FBI" in that phrase was the tipoff there. It's hard to find truth when everybody lies from the get-go.

#13 Apparently Paddock had earned millions of dollars “through real estate deals”.  If he was so wealthy, why would he all of a sudden snap like that?

Exactly. As noted, this was anything but someone "snapping." It took weeks to months to acquire the weapons, magazines, ammunition, reserve the key rooms, and several days to haul in the gear, ammo, set up the cameras, etc.
This was about as impulsive as moving a 200-person film crew from Hollywood to Tunisia to film "StarWars", i.e., anything but impulsive.

#14 Why did he move so frequently?  It is being reported that Paddock had 27 different residences during his adult life.

Exactly. This is not an accountant. This is an operative. Until last Sunday night about 2320 hours local LV time, this guy was the definition of The Gray Man.

#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?
In essence, the concert trapped the people, preventing them from escaping, and denying them the ability to seek cover. From there, sustained, full-auto gunfire is almost impossible to survive.

From Fox News, a caller named Russell Bleck, who survived the shooting, said live on air, “There were ten-foot walls blocking us in. We couldn’t escape. It was just a massacre. We had nowhere to go.”

That's a question for the LV fire marshalls and concert organizer (although I'm betting the event being directly contiguous to an international airport had some wee part to play), coupled with not wanting non-paying douchebags from sneaking in.

And BTW, you can't have it both ways: this can't have been "an impossible thing to shoot so many people" and simultaneously be "impossible to survive". Less derp, please.

#16 Why was a country music festival chosen as the target?  Was the goal to kill as many Trump supporters and other conservatives as possible?  And is there evidence that Stephen Paddock was connected to Antifa in any way?

You mean, why would someone bent on mass murder choose an open-air concert with 22,000 targets and no exits across from a perfect shooting platform with fantastic fields of fire for 180 degrees?
Gee, I dunno.

Was the goal etc.
No, that would have made a Trump rally preferable. But the Secret Service tends to show up to those, they aren't in such an attractively accessible target, and they tend to return fire in about 2 seconds.

And is there evidence...
No freaking idea, at this point.

Tyler may be a whiz with Wall Street, but with mass shootings, not so much.
It may look like anybody can do this, but I've already asked more, better, questions than this, sooner, and more critically.
And I'm not even among the ten smartest guys to be doing this. But if somebody else out there is doing it better, let alone coming up with better answers, I'd love to see that link.


Anonymous said...

"why did he move so much?" "he made money off real estate." i spent some time in real estate. all revolves around how too determine primary home too avoid capital gain taxes. pretty common for small time/single real estate investors to move around a lot. IRS code: "If you owned the home for at least 24 months (2 years) during the last 5 years leading up to the date of sale (date of the closing), you meet the ownership requirement." i do not have his time line of primary homes but, this could be very a good reason.

Anonymous said...

#8 has an explanation.

Aprox minute 18 security guard gets shot in front of the room. Shooting outside stops because the perp is watching his Wi-Fi cameras inside. Police down the hall are watching the door. The responding officer decides not to charge down the hall into the machine gun fire and calls for the SWAT team. Perp is not shooting out the widows anymore so the SWAT team takes their time and gets good and ready.

Aesop said...

And then after shooting nearly 600 people, he gets cold feet, and caps himself...?

It does nail down when they had the room isolated though: 13-25 minutes after the initial rampage.

Cavalryman40 said...

I still have to believe that as a pilot, if he really wanted to kill people, he would have just went over to Henderson Airport, rented a plane, and simply flown it right into the crowd. Easier, less planning, and no way to get caught and be stopped beforehand. And he would have killed 10 times more people. But he didn't do that did he? It wouldn't send the proper message. Had to be a mass shooting. We wonder why he would bring 23 guns with him, when he only needed a couple to do the job? The message, "LOOK AT THIS GUY, HE HAD 23 GUNS!" Like it matters. Well it does matter to the hysterical public, and it matters to the people behind this. 21 of the guns were props. And yes, I believe he thought he was going to get away. If he was simply going to die, we are back to the airplane again. He was dead, before metro got there, and that begs the question. Who did get away?

George True said...

I am a private pilot. It is not easy to hit a particular spot on the ground with an airplane. Pilots practice touch and go landing all the time, and it is difficult to hit the exact spot that you are aiming for. And that is with the aircraft greatly slowed down to about 1.3 times the stall speed of the aircraft. Trying to hit that concert venue at night, even at refuced speed, with possible updrafts and crosswinds, would be a difficult feat. Your chances of overshooting or undershooting would be far greater than your chances of nailing it.

Anonymous said...

Sooooo, assume that this stinks because it's rotten.

Who could organize and fund something like this, and WHY would they bother?
-someone burned a long time asset
-why just another gun control motivator? they happen often enough without faking one
-yes the hearing protection act is dead, but who's that afraid of suppressors?
-who is old school enough to think they could get away with this in the age of 4chan and cell phone video? (in other words, who doesn't understand open source analysis and crowdsourcing?)
-if meant to radicalize americans vs americans, where's the manifesto and the endless discovery of the guy's motives and hate for the 'other'.

In other words, I don't see a good enough reason for someone who was capable of the setup to actually execute.


btw, why stop shooting into the crowd? Because he was dead as soon as the op was blown (security guy shot.) Certainly wasn't lack of will, lack of ammo, malf of weapons... maybe the fire alarm came as a surprise (no one thinks of everything) and the control wound up the op and exited as soon as the room was id'd.

Anyway, I don't want to have a single vehicle car crash, or a small aircraft accident, or an unfortunate incident with a pistol....

Cavalryman40 said...

We are talking about a 40 acre open field with 22,000 people lit up like broadway, not trying to hit the numbers on a runway threshold. Not only would it be a piece of cake, it would be far easier than trying to smuggle 23 guns and a couple thousand rounds of ammo up to the 32 floor of a Las Vegas casino without getting caught. And I know a little bit about the subject I am talking about also.

Robert Browning said...

In the suicide picture of Paddock, shell casing are on top of the pool of blood. Why aren't the shell casings covered in blood?

Welcome Black Carter said...

I'm no expert on forensics, does not seem unlikely that as blood pool extends away from the perp, the end result would appear as though casing was on top of the blood.

Cavalryman40 said...

Can we all agree that certain elements are trying to push this country into anarchy? If we can agree that those elements are at play and we can admit that they provide support for both sides of the players (ANTIFA, BLM, Occupy Wall St, pink pussy hats ( or whatever they call themselves) The far right groups Nazis/KKK, the kneelers, etc, etc) all these groups on both sides who are managing to piss off everyone in America on both sides. If we can accept the premise that there are people behind them, funding them, then maybe we can accept that they are starting to see that the civial war they have been trying to start is not happening. A good percentage of the population is starting to not buy into the narrative. The kneelers are biting the NFL in the ass, that is starting to fail. People are getting pissed off at BLM, they are tired of them defending thuggs and blocking roads, And ANTIFA has been exposed for what it really is. Time to reach back into the playbook and go with the Hail Mary, a mass shooting right? It almost worked at Sandy Hook. The goal being, turn the guns in. That might start the war in the current political climate. If they can get that to happen, they have a civil war,?lots of cash is going to change hands, and it gives them the excuse to crack down. If they don't get the war, but manage to get then guns, then it's a win anyway, because now they can crack down anytime they see fit. The question is not what they have to lose, it's what they win. This shit has been in motion for decades. I just don't think anyone counted on some orange faced reality TV star/ slash billionaire who doesn't give a shit what anyone thinks, and is used to actually calling the shots end up in the White House. Think about it, we have a guy in the White House who actually believes he is running the show, and isn't afraid to tell some one else to go pound sand. This was something nether political party was ready for. They are panicking and trying to speed things up? Just a thought.

Cavalryman40 said...

One more thing to add, there are a few pretty knowledgeable people over at frugals who have been debating what's going to kick it off for years. Maybe this is the opening kick off. Maybe the next act is the right wing revenge. November 4th is supposed to be a big protest day nation wide by ANTIFA, what would happen if, at a large protest, a half dozen shooters opened up and mowed down a couple hundred leftist college kids? It would be easy enough to pull off, would it not set the nation on fire? Damm right it would.

George True said...

I am not saying it couldn't be done. I am saying it would not be a sure thing.

Teshuvah said...

#7. The woman who said "you are all going to die," also said "They're all around." Hello. WHO is all around. Why do articles keep skipping that phrase?

'They're all around, you're all going to die!' Mystery of woman kicked out of Vegas country music festival after shouting terrifying threat just an hour before gunman opened fire

Teshuvah said...

#15 Why were nearly all of the exits out of the concert venue completely blocked?

This M.O. was also used at Charlottesville and in Seattle. The Police directed the more peaceful side into an area where they were trapped and then loosed Antifa on them to attack them.

RSR said...

In response to "Anonymous said...
Sooooo, assume that this stinks because it's rotten. "

The current SHARE Act is much more extensive than 2015-2016 text being circulated:

While it does legalize suppressors, it accomplishes much more and this is where the $ will be if someone had a fiscal interest in putting the brakes on this... See this section in above: TITLE XVI—LAWFUL PURPOSE AND SELF-DEFENSE

Here's theFirearmBlog's summary:
"Also included in the SHARE Act is another subsection, Title XVI, which, among other things, would allow the importation of any firearm or ammunition legal for sale in the US, and prevent the classification of common rifle ammunition as “armor piercing” pistol ammunition by the ATF. This subsection also includes provisions to ease importation of weapons for the purposes of experimentation, personal weapons being re-imported from other countries, and curios. It also includes a provision to protect shotguns from being classified as destructive devices, even if they are not considered “sporting” weapons. Finally, the subsection includes a provision to further protect the temporary transfer of lawful firearms across state lines, by removing the “sporting purposes” proviso from Title 18, 922(a)(5)(B), (a)(9), and (b)(3)(B)."

Anonymous said...

> -someone burned a long time asset

A retired, possibly going-senile and loose-lipped asset, is a liability. But still a useful tool, if need be, albeit unwillingly.

> why just another gun control motivator? they happen often enough without faking one

The ante must be upped under Trump. Additionally, likely conservatives have been the targets in all the major 2017 shootings on US soil. A low-intensity war is already underway.

> yes the hearing protection act is dead, but who's that afraid of suppressors?

Suppressors, bump-stocks, pistol-grips, trigger-cyclers...they're all just talking-point buzzwords to occupy the blank space that is left after terms like "belt-fed military hardware" are sanitized from the narrative.

> who is old school enough to think they could get away with this in the age of 4chan and cell phone video? (in other words, who doesn't understand open source analysis and crowdsourcing?)

Russian active-measures, boots down on enemy soil since Stalin breathed, and which, given its lock-stock-barrel control of the US press, publishing houses, academia, Hollywood, and major federal bureaucracies, can simply flush anything inconvenient down the memory-hole. I.e., does it really matter what/how/who many hosed down a Vegas crowd with video posted on YouTube if your controlled press will *in total fucking unison* completely ignore to instead short-stroke "Bump-stock! Bump-stock!" throughout the 48hr news-cycle until the next hurricane in the Caribbean takes over? Mind you, this the same press that twenty years ago published a picture of Vince Foster's corpse holding a black-revolver while the FBI was arm-barring his widow up against a wall to agree that it was his silver automatic. ...They made that go away. They can make *anything* go away. All they have to do is wait. After all, if *you* aren't going to shoot off their perch and nobody else it either, then they're still up there running things and slowly grinding you down.

And that is how, as a pure function of time, Guilded-Age Steampunk powerhouse America slowly and inexorably transforms into a Venezuela.

Anonymous said...

> if meant to radicalize americans vs americans, where's the manifesto and the endless discovery of the guy's motives and hate for the 'other'.

That neckbearded asshole wrote the Manifesto over a hundred years ago.

-- Open class-warfare has always been the goal of America's long-ongoing Marxist insurrection, virtually every press tizzy of the last twenty years has been green-lit on that basis (which is why white-cop-shoot-black-dindu events are the most eagerly-anticipated with Pavlovian drooling relish) and a United States embroiled in civil war has always been a necessity for a Russia eager to do as it pleases on the world stage, and Putin in particular as he attempts to reconstitute the Soviet Union.

The entire Trump / Russia connection story was LOUDLY shouted fallback propaganda explicitly designed to *inoculate* anyone with REAL Russian connections inevitably revealed in the future, everybody from Winter Soldier Egg Shell Kerry, Turned At the Hilton McCain, Algore the Flatulent, Slick Went to Moscow Who Gave Nuke Plants to the Norks, Manchurian Queen of Diamonds Hillary, and the literal red diaper baby himself, the Bastard Whelp Frank Marshall Davis, Jr. "Obama", who bounced straight into the White House with the least vetting of any candidate in the history of any political race ever. Hey, did you know that he's disowned by his half-brother Malik, who considers him an imposter? If you do, you didn't hear about it The Gray Lady.

In other words, you deal with "4chan and cell phone video" by relying on your control of too many facets of official power, prestige, patronage, and publicity for any opposition to gain traction against. "Rebel scum" on the internet can do exactly what? Blog? ...what is that compared to the power to *tax*?

From the neck-down and occasionally the hair-down, the US has been an occupied neo-Soviet satellite for at least a quarter-century now, and the roaches have become very, very good at their game, having converted the mightiest Capitalist engine of innovation history has ever seen into an enervated welfare state dystopia barely afloat due to tech bubbles in which the statist left is played off against the statist right (either side differing only in what schemes they demand an ultra-powerful government prioritize), and salting/poisoning intelligent discussion fora with fake neo-nazi trolls who blame everything on Israel & Mossad whenever they're getting too close to the truth. Because then you'd just be another Nazi site safe to shunt to the bottom of the Goolag rankings.