This kind of insightful, rational commentary response to a post warms my heart. It really does. It's like when I'm working, and someone comes to the ER, and then wants to tell me and the doctor and everyone else how to do our jobs. Except here I don't have to worry about a low Press-Ganey score from the snotty drug seeker we wouldn't give any Norco to, or a shitty rating card from the psych patient we shipped out to the whack-job ward in hard restraints and a spit mask.
"Wow. Alarmist much?
The key things that will contain an Ebola outbreak in Europe, North America, etc., is communications.
Where rural level Africans are very hard to convince about the dangers of spreading disease, there won't be much such issue in Europe, North American, Most of Asia, Most of South America. People are educated (enough) to know what is right and wrong. (Recall the SARS and H1N1 outbreaks - hygiene went up 4 notches).
Get the word out, and people will avoid people. People will up their hygiene game. Etc. Can't spread w/o bodily fluid contact.
So there will possibly be other Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital events. That did not result in a pandemic. At all.
Of course it's not the CDC saying "we got this". It's people with information who will say, "Stay the f--- away from me, dude!" that will burn out a pandemic quickly. (Indeed, the CDC will probably say, "Tell people to stay away.").
In that sense, planning and preparing now (true prepping, not the arm myself to the rafters with AR-15 prepping) is a much better tool than alarmist articles as above. (And you don't need to repeat "bleeding from the (orifice of choice)" so often to make a point).
Oops, left out a detail.
Vaccinations are now available for Ebola and one is in use in Africa following the "ring vaccination" protocol (vaccinate highest risk people). It is (apparently) effective (if not 100%) even on patients who have contracted Ebola."
When the house is on fire, perhaps pulling an alarm is what's called for.
But hey, thanks for letting us know that life will go on fine, once everyone realizes they can't go to work, school, church, the mall, the grocery store, the gas station, the pharmacy, the bank, the ATM, or anywhere else, nor touch anything they haven't disinfected with bleach and sunlight for 10 minutes, after gowning up in the equivalent of MOPP IV, including N95 respirator, head to toe disposable overgarments including hood, goggles, and face covering, rubber booties, and two pairs of gloves, and following a strict series of decontamination again when they remove the garments, any time they venture outside their perimeter (God knows why they would, other than oh, I dunno, the exact food, water, medicine, money, and all those other luxuries we can skip for a few months/years). Or else stay locked up in their homes with food, water, medicine, and such, for at least 40+ days after the last reported case, nor come closer than 20' to anyone coughing or sneezing until 10 or more minutes have passed to let the droplets settle, if they're crazy enough to go out at all, for any reason whatsoever, because that won't affect the largest economy in the world in the SLIGHTEST, will it, jackass?
Do you have a spare two years' income handy? In cash?
Do you have twenty-four months' food at home?
The 2013 outbreak wasn't over until 2016 in West Africa.(But, you knew that, right?)
And you've also got a 40' ISO container full of limitless supplies of HazMat gear, and an incinerator and fuel to dispose of used gear properly?
And hundreds of gallons of bleach? And a sprayer for it?
Who's going to spot for you putting it on and taking it off?
Or were you just going to wing it?
Who's going to run the water plant when everyone stays home?
How will water get pumped when no one comes to work at the power plant either?
Who's going to fill up barrels and distribute water door to door when there's no gas, no water supply, and no power? You?
How many cops and firemen will come to work at all, let alone when they have to work in gear so hot you can't do it for more than a couple of hours?
Who's going to be giving those vaccinations when no one comes to work at the hospital, for all the reasons outlined above?
(Oh, BTW, as the name would imply, "ring vaccination" isn't vaccinating "those at highest risk" - that would be medical relief workers, primarily, and probably be called "highest risk vaccination" - it means vaccinating those proximately closest to those already infected, i.e. family, neighbors, friends, and other closest contacts, and putting a literal ring of immunized people around the outbreak. Plain English is funny like that: it tends to mean what it says. If you're going to be the smartest guy in the room, and sling the terms around, it's probably a good idea to get them right. Just saying.)
What happens if it doesn't work so well? If your weasel-worded ("apparently") morphs into "Whoops, my bad, not so much..."
What are you going to do with the 25% idiots who won't even get vaccinated now?
Round them up?
Ignore them and let them die?
And merrily spread the outbreak in the meantime?
What about their minor children?
Do we just let mommy and daddy give them Mr. Jones' nice cup of kool-aid? Because father knows best?
As a certifiable jet-fuel genius technocrat with all the answers, tell us how to deal with that.
And then you're going to do...what, exactly, about those 75M dead bodies, from Ebola, in some cases, but also from heart attacks, dehydration, heatstroke or freezing to death, running out of their meds, not to mention what happens when any semblance of civil government breaks down and blows away in the wind?
Who's going out on body pick up and disposal?
What are you going to do about the 20% of America on anti-depressants and other psych meds when they run out?
Who you gonna call when there's no power for that information grid, TV, radio, cell towers, or the internet, about three days after this hits any place, and the lights start going out?
Oh, say, your buddy Chip Diller called.
In 2014, with exactly that sort of "We can do this!" thinking, Texas Health managed, despite the CDC's sub-standard "protocols", to infect 2 ICU nurses, despite more information, protective gear, and better training than you've got right now, and exactly doubled the US outbreak in less than 21 days, while exposing thousands more to the potential to become the next wave, shutting down schools, completely closing that entire 968-bed major hospital in our 9th largest city for one patient, and spreading the exact amount of fear and panic totally justified when TPTB turn out to be so stupid, incompetent, and recklessly dismissive of the public's safety and best interests.
Totally fucking ignorant of reality much there?
And just to help your reading comprehension along, notice where I said that this Congo outbreak now isn't nearly as bad now as it was in West Africa 2014. Yet.
But the post was in reply to someone, a trained medical professional, in fact, who - exactly like you - didn't think this was that big a deal at all.
So I'm guessing the return fire landed inside your perimeter, and you're running critically low on butthurt creme, right?
Yes, this outbreak can be dealt with.
Even if it gets here.
A good start would definitely be getting a better grip on reality than what you've got.
And certainly not by the pig-headed arrogance displayed in 2014, which was the exact point of the whole post, not alarmism.
I wasn't throwing a hand grenade in the outhouse just to watch the shit fly.
In fact, far from anything alarmist, all I did was recount what happened last time, and suggest a number of ways to not be that fucktarded the next time. I didn't advise napalming Africa, forting up and heading for the hills, establishing a colony on the Moon, nor anything else as silly-assed as your disdainful reply would engender.
I spoke simple common sense on both the past, and looking forward, and that somehow roils your inner child's clueless disconnection with reality.
Well, pardon me all to hell.
I'm sorry for dragging you to this site, and forcing to read common sense at gunpoint.
That didn't happen, did it?
Hunkering down at home may indeed be the best option, if it gets here this time.
Frankly, I'm far more interested in making it much less likely to ever get here again.
But hey, you go on perfecting your pedal-powered water bailing machine, and I'll just focus on us maybe not running the ship into a fucking iceberg, m'kay?
Acting like hunkering down would be simple, or just an extended Superbowl weekend is the height of jackassical ignorance.
Ignoring the actual second-, third- and fourth-order follow on results is just plain head-up-the-ass full recto-cranial impaction.
So thanks for dropping by. (And obligingly putting that big "Kick Me!" sign on your back!)
Maybe if you read another post here someday, you could try next time with your eyes open, the batteries for your brain fully charged, and your mouth in neutral.
Just for the novelty.
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