Thursday, February 13, 2020

Paging Dr. Mengele...

It's only "best" in the sense that you're going to kill a given number of persons, to a metaphysical certainty, most of them needlessly.
The castaways are only as smart as Gilligan, and those 3711 people, passengers and crew, are only as safe as the stupidest person on the ship, because that's the guy who's the 21st century Typhoid Mary, cheerfully spreading infection hither and yon. In this case, Gilligan is a Japanese quarantine worker:
"It's reported that the Japanese quarantine worker wasn't wearing highly protective clothing for high biosafety level areas, just wearing a mask and gloves.  He was handing out questionnaires and checking the health of passengers and crew members."
Top. Men.

(Bonus Question for Japan's PTB: How many Japanese citizens did Gilligan unknowingly expose and/or infect after he left the ship, and before anyone knew he'd contracted the virus? Get back to us in 14 days, quarantine geniusii. The ironic humor, it kills us.)

That Gilligan Factor may also include the ship's air handling system and/or plumbing, which isn't segregated, nor sterile, so keeping everyone in the rooms of a steel ship is tantamount to having the sickest of them coughing on everyone, 24/7/365, and will also probably necessitate the total write-off of the ship to Princess Lines as a permanently colonized Plague Ship.

It is a near-certainty that no maritime insurer will ever cover it to set sail again, even if they burned it out from stem to stern. (Would you sail on it, or drink the water from the pipes? Sh'yeah, like hell you would.)

At the end of the day, the line, plus the Japanese government, will be liable for billion$ in damages from survivors and heirs' estates, for literally killing people, but given Japanese history regarding the Rape Of Nanking, that shouldn't be too troubling to leadership in Tokyo. More like reliving the good old days of the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Basic humanity would dictate that they move people off the ship into individual quarantine tents in the adjacent parking lot, and strictly segregate all their functions, including food and toileting. Doing it like they're doing is going to kill greater numbers, needlessly, who were initially uninfected.

Including crew members.

This is ghoul practice, not quarantine, but it accords with the millennia-long eastern tradition of regarding individuals as less worthy than cattle.

If there were a war on, this would be a war crime. As it is, it's a crime against humanity. With which, yet again, the Japanese have some wee history of familiarity.


Charles in VA said...

Being on a ship is much like being on a plane. If that virus is airborne, and it almost certainly is, the exposure rate is 100%. The air filtration system ain't HEPA grade. The toilets pretty much dump right into the ocean when not in port.

Gilligan aside, if the virus is airborne and they're letting passengers top side for "fresh air" periodically (reports suggest they are) Then the port has already been exposed.

I suspect Gilligan was purposely dressed as he was to "prevent panic" among the quarantined. A dick move to be sure. The state of quarantine had already provided all the necessary motivation for panic.

I'm surprised no one has attempted jumping ship at the mention of the word "quarantine".

Aesop's reference to the Stanford prison experiment is appropriate, and I would expect to start seeing that type of outcome on this ship before it's all over...human nature being what it is.

Anonymous said...

The quarantine worker going about with only mask and gloves obviously got his training from that picture of the Ebola preparations showing the nurse wearing goggles and a mask instead of the full-astronaut-suit. You know the one Aesop, you got several blog posts out of it back when.

I've started to thing that diseases getting out from quarantine more often than not simple stupidity on someone's part, rather than say a door seal failing.


The Gray Man said...

I am an accelerationist, I want the boogaloo to start ASAP, not because I’m some hardcore badass who can take on anything, but because I want to take it on myself instead of my children having to do it. I have prepared and I still am preparing as best I can, but the sooner it kicks off, the better.

But as a RN... I was REALLY hoping the boogaloo wouldn’t be a fucking virus.

The Gray Man said...

A door seal doesn’t help a lot depending on air systems. What you need a negative pressure room.

The hospital I work for has your basic set up: ER, Nephrology floor, surgical floor, oncology floor, ortho floor, neuro floor, medical floor and cardio floor. The smallest one has 13 beds, the largest has 36. We have three ICUs with a total of 40 beds combined.

The oncology floor has 12 neg-pressure rooms, and I think our ICU has three.

That’s it.

McChuck said...

Did you know that the US Surgeon General is in charge of the Quarantine Service (part of the CDC)? And that they can command the Coast Guard to enforce the quarantine of ships?

Quarantining plague ships is ancient practice - because it works to protect the homeland. Military math - losing 3,000 is better than losing 3,000,000.

Anonymous said...

Never understood the logic of keeping all these people cooped up on that ship. As you said "keeping everyone in the rooms of a steel ship is tantamount to having the sickest of them coughing on everyone, 24/7/365".


Anonymous said...

The cruise line is now allowing the most vulnerable passengers to move to a land based quarantine. They should move them all, and the poor bastards in the crew too.

So, was it the Japanese Government, or the cruise line that made them stay aboard the ship? Land based quarantine would be expensive, and I bet the Japanese Government would want to get paid up front. Cruise ship lines are cheap bast-rds. Maybe both parties?

I don't understand the logic, ONLY SIX MORE DAYS to go? People have been exposed and dropping left and right. We are up to 218 total yesterday, and how many more today? 30? 40? 50? The quarantine should be starting anew with each new case discovered.

There are (at last report), 20 Americans with COVID-2019 on the plague ship. That is more than the number here in the entire United States.

And Aesop, the key word is LOYAL, not psychopath. Most, but not all, psychopathic types are real loose cannons, which makes them easier to spot.

Anonymous said...

The guy in mask and gloves?

Reminds me of a Health Physicist tech we had on a BWR nuclear turbine rebuild. He specified full coveralls, gloves, boots and hood for us observing, not performing the work. After the end of our shift, we see him in gloves and booties and street clothes walking through the job site and climbing up on deck taking radiological smears.

He didn't need to follow the rules, "he was the professional". And he got his butt booted off site.

Anonymous said...

CDC is in on this at least to the point of tacit encouragement, its the only way to get real numbers. These passengers are to be sacrificed on the altar of the greater good, I wonder how many have figured that out and are climbing the walls..

RandyGC said...

Can you say Unit 731?

Sure, I knew you could.

Charles in VA said...

Just a thought...

computer chip manufacturing factories could easily be converted into treatment facilities, as they have massive clean room floor space already in place.

We've got 'em on the East Coast. I KNOW we've got 'em on the West Coast.

The bottom line is we HAVE options if it comes to that.

Unknownsailor said...

I know exactly how fast a virus sweeps through a ship, it happens nearly every time a Navy aircraft carrier deploys. Someone brings onboard a latent nano-virus, and suddenly half the flarging ship is SIQ because they are spewing out of both ends, simultaneously. The Double Dragon knows no favorites, either.

Ask me how I know. I usually managed to dodge it by washing my hands with great regularity, but on my last deployment before I retired I got it, and it purely sucked.

Confining all those people to the ship pierside like that is cruel. It guarantees that the virus spreads to everyone onboard.

bigrigmig said...

One of the Americans on that ship... .

Ominous Cowherd said...

``At the end of the day, the line, plus the Japanese government, will be liable for billion$ in damages from survivors and heirs' estates, for literally killing people, but given Japanese history regarding the Rape Of Nanking, that shouldn't be too troubling to leadership in Tokyo.''
At the end, I doubt the Japs will accept liability for anything. I agree with your assessment of their morals: they won't care.
The cruise line might not care, but they don't have a navy and airforce, so they might be made to care.

Robin Datta said...

When they said they would "kill with silence" the offer to end hostilities, Harry Truman's mistake was to stop at two and -ever again- make the offer.

Wayne said...

@Robin Datta,
After Nagasaki, Truman was out of nukes.

John said...

"One Ping Only"

Here. Have a bowl of "acronym soup." -

RSR said...

Charles in VA -- PC and server rooms are generally positive pressure to keep dust out. Negative pressure rooms are designed to keep dust and contaminants in.

Also, oncology and the like rooms are also positive pressure since not infectious. Whereas, contagious disease rooms are negative pressure to keep the disease contained w/in the room. I'd think we have a lot more purposely-designed positive pressure rooms inside and outside hospitals than negative pressure...


Borepatch said...

And one week after your post, the Japanese doctor comes out and says basically exactly what you posted.

It's a hoot that the Japanese government still disputes this. Well, it would be a hoot if people weren't getting sick.