Thursday, April 12, 2018

Pick One

"We could just give them 30 states, and everything will work out amicably..."

Jaw-jack all you want. The time for asinine schemes is long past. Anyone out there who thinks half a loaf is better than none, and that the imaginary deal would be worth the paper it's printed on, isn't worth what I leave behind on the paperwork in the Thinking Room after eating an epic burrito.

There's far too much serious work to do for serious people.

We should all get about it.


T-Rav said...

This isn't quite on the same level, but since they seem to have gathered enough signatures in CA to put on the ballot a measure for splitting the state in three, is that something you would support? The folks up in the northern counties seem pretty gung-ho for their State of Jefferson and all that.

John Gault said...

That's one option but I'd rather break it off, tow it out into the Pacific and sink it.

Aesop said...

You're new here, eh?

You can catch up on the relevant sections of the US Constitution at your leisure...

James M Dakin said...

Not sure if applicable for the comments, but Churchill was a giant twat. Between him and FDR warmongering, how many lower class poor did they kill? Read up on the man-just not his rectal lickers or his own works-not pretty. More on point-the US will break up one way or another. And it isn't current politics. Completely separate cultures from before the Revolution, forced to play together by the feds. And most Cali's are of the Yankee Scum variety. We wouldn't want any of the mentally healthy ones breaking off and taking the water with them, would we?

Anonymous said...

Aesop, there's nothing in the U.S. Constitution that disallows separation of states into separate states IN the United States - hence the Second Wheeling Convention. The State of Jefferson movement is actually quite legal, very much active, gaining steam, and has cases ALREADY winding through the courts. If successful, it creates a 51st state. It is NOT secession from the Federal Government, but from Sacramento.

It sounds like a pipedream - until it isn't. Take a gander around this site, it's legitimate:

Congressman LaMalfa backs the movement:

Congressman Tom McClintock supports the State of Jefferson: (He'll address your constitutional concerns in that video)

We're quite serious up here, and again, our movement is gaining, not losing steam.

loren said...

You're entitled to your opinion even if it is ignorant shit.
Churchill was by far the most important person of the 20th century.
WW2 was a product of WW1 and had nothing to do with Churchill. Without him Britain could and probably would have failed. WW2 would have lasted years longer and many millions more would have died.
If you want to castigate someone, try LBJ. Now there's a loathsome POS that is the driving factor for our current sad state of affairs.

John said...

I would only take issue with you on one account. I would choose Emanuel Celler, the 50 year Congresscritter from the state of New York as the worst American of the 20th century. He wrote the legislation creating the modern Welfare state ( the Civil Rights act of 1964), increased immigration from Third World countries with the Hart-Celler act of 1965 (they used poor,drunk, and witless Teddy Kennedy as the frontman on that one), and for his coup de gras "The Gun Control Act of 1968. One could also make an equally good argument for President's Franklin Roosevelt or Woodrow Wilson. LBJ's corruptions of our Constitution pale in comparison to these scumbags.

Anonymous said...

trust in and of man and this is the result i can get more of a affectual release from a dying dog that was with me for years. maybe some things need to just go away and/or vanish from sight and mind. I do like to rain on peoples parades but the weather/climate situation and crop destruction that currently has been happening for the last 1-2 years may begin to solve a lot of mans problems.A couple more years of crop reductions or destruction and all of us will be fighting for food scraps. Sorry I see the current past as more relevant to our future.I'll say this we prospered a hell of a lot after WW2 and made this country a powerhouse but nearly seventy years later look at the current state of affairs socially,politically,ethically or religiously so our souls and mantles are going to be tested who will be wanting for when the bell tolls for this nation and it's people.

Aesop said...

@Anonymous 8:38

If you were public-schooled, I understand why this paragraph may be news to you:

New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress. - Article IV, Section 3, U.S. Constitution

If you think you can get 50%+1 of the votes in any session of the Congress, let alone even the CA and/or OR legislatures to give Jefferson and the GOP two more senators just for the asking, and steal a dozen or so red districts for the Congress, while putting 15 or so of CA's 55 electoral votes in the GOP meat locker in perpetuity for every presidential election until forever, for the delusional nonsense that is "Jefferson", I also have a bridge for sale to you, cheap.

(I hope that wasn't too subtle for you.)

If it were that easy, NFY State and Massholia would vote to split into 300 states the next day, so they could swear in the 600 new US senators they'd get. But that won't happen either, and for the same reasons.

If any or all of this is news to you, and/or you still think you have a snowball's chance in hell of this ever taking place here in reality, you're really not tall enough for the Internet.

Anonymous said...

Anon @ 8:38, well Tom McClintock is years to late! 10yrs ago at a Placerville,CA town-hall I told him and Igor face to face his district was turning BLUE. All the retiring Bay area liberals are moving into the foothills; you know to escape their progressive/Marxist Utopias. I took my vote to another state were it matters. Had enough of his "we have been thru hard times before" line of bullshit, we vote right, then kicked in the nuts. good luck out there. remember your still one tank of gas away from 15 million assholes.

Anonymous said...

None of that's new to me Aesop, and I've been using the internet since it was ARPANet, thanks. You? It makes great reading when you assume everyone's less intelligent than you, but I assure you, you're not the only intelligent and well-read person on the planet (though it may understandably feel that way sometimes).

Just like when people were calling me an idiot and using the slippery slope fallacy when I was telling them in the 90's that their heavy taxation of cigarettes would lead, inevitably, to the taxation of sugar, fats, etc., I will now screenshot your reply to me, and if the internet and your blog are still around in 20 years, I'll come back to you on this. I like the word "Never". Fills me with even more resolve, and oh my, how things change in 20 years.

Aesop said...

Got it.
You know what the requirements are, which have been met exactly 0 times in 230 years, and yet you still think getting past that wee hurdle is anywhere within the realm of reality.

You're dealing with a Congress, right now, that can't manage to repeal ObozoCare, but you think you have a shot at getting a new state made which not only makes you happy, but simultaneously robs CA and the DNC of 10-15 electoral votes minimum, and in perpetuity, and you figure that'll pass a D-supermajority CA legislature, just for starters, because somehow they'll feel generous enough to let you go and wave goodbye to electoral votes that they'll own long after you're dead and buried, as things stand, without lifting a finger.

The (D) legislator who voted for that wouldn't be primaried out by Democrats, they'd smother him with a pillow the same day. If he made it to the parking lot without being defenestrated.

And then, to top it off, 49 other states will sit still to see, in fact to enact in both houses of Congress, TSFKAC (The State Formerly Known As California) suddenly getting four senators instead of two, because a bunch of moonbats drinking bongwater wish it hard enough!
Yes, of course, that'll just happen, because cross-eyed McClintock thinks so too.

I've seen this exact plan before, but I have to tell you, it was much funnier when John Cleese, Eric Idle, and Graham Chapman did it. And no one mistook it for a serious plan.

So, in short, the whole effort is just pure delusional gainsaying against reality.


Buy Powerball tickets; the odds are better, and it's cheaper than the roll of tinfoil for the hats.

And there's no Easter Bunny.
Just thought you should get it all in one go.

Anonymous said...

No Easter Bunny?!? Well now you've gone and RUINED my day.

Have a good one Aesop. :)