No hate here. We like our harsh climate. As the ol' boy from Minnesota put it: "Between the ice in the winter, and the 'skeeters in the summer, it tends to keep the riff-raff out." Once the gummint teat goes dry (welfare, EBT, section 8 housing, etc.), I'm counting on what we have for an underclass here to self-deport.
A friend made reservations at a resturant which announced table availability as "X, party of #", and had us listed as "Donner, party of eight". I was amazed that no one but our people reacted. Jihn in Indy
We all live with the inconveniences and dangers of our locales. But our below zero winter days keep down the mosquitoes, flies, riff-raff, and other vermin.
In 99% of cases, they're as "Californian" as Pelosi or Schwarzenegger. And overwhelmingly, they're your toothless banjo-playing kinfolk (I've seen the SSNs, and they aren't from here), who couldn't drift any farther west after they hit the Pacific coast. And got stuck here after they failed out of rehab.
@RD,
Only out-of-staters worry about earthquakes. We simply expect them. Like other states do hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, and floods.
Winter is a feature, not a bug. It is one of the few things that somewhat limits colder climes from becoming the oozing pustulant carbuncle that is California, from spreading even worse than it has. It keeps those who think that life can be lived in shorts, t-shirts and slides/flip-flops at a lower ebb, especially after the first winter.
I'd rather shovel snow than mud. An aunt used to live in or around Montecito, lucky she got her car out of the basement garage of the apartment building...
Is it just the climate and Hollywood that draws people out that way? I just don't get the appeal of modern California. 1950-1970 California I'd have liked to visit.
A lot of people who I once called friends got the bright idea to make a go for California and Colorado. They didn't like my response of "Your ass can't survive BFE with family GIVING you a place to live. What makes you think California or Colorado will be any better?"
Years later. They're no longer friends, now junkies, and still here in BFE. A while back I did consider buying some of them a bus ticket out West. However at that time a Lee-Enfield No.4T, a 308 Galil, and a trijicon equipped FNX45 killed my charitable nature.
There's also a definite SS,DD component to the national and international clown show. I feel like the Babylon Bee most days: things have gotten so effed up, it's hard to write good satire when the real deal stuff is so batshit whacked.
Whoever thinks winter keeps the commies away hasn't spent any time in Jackson,WY and the area about 50 freaking miles around as only one example. Of course Mammoth Mountain CA ( a childhood favorite) had to close down for a bit for too much snow. At least western snow can be swept rather than shoveled; eastern snow oughtta be on the periodic table somewhere around lead or uranium. Boat Guy
Snow? What's that? Don't even notice it. Love drivin' snow-packed roads! And my skies have a motor attached. Oil gone in ten years....now that's funny. Y'all can drive those Teslas, they don't work up here in the Alaska winters. We'll keep drillin' thank ya.
Meanwhile, we'll just shoot down those chink balloons...
Meh. CA native, lived there for 50+ years--north, south, mountains, beach. Lived and worked in both LA and SF. Also lived where it snowed a little, where it rained a lot, and where the weather was pretty much perfect year 'round.
You can keep it. No amount of easy weather is worth putting up with the idiots, both imported and homegrown, that now characterize what used to be the best place on earth. Cultural rot abounds, voting has become meaningless, and nothing else is going to stop or even slow the decline. I have many more working years and young kids to raise. Stay and ride it all the way down because I like the weather? That's effing crazy.
Adios, mofos.
Every place on earth has weather. You just change your kit to suit, and enjoy what that season has to offer. No such thing as bad weather, only bad gear.
If shoveling snow is just too much...by all means, stay in CA. May your chains rest lightly and such.
That just leaves more room for those of us who prefer to live in relative freedom and sanity, and who don't mind shoveling a little white stuff now and again. It's a good workout.
When you finally decide to leave, I won't ask you to turn off the lights--they'll already be out by then.
Aesop, you are lucky. I spent a decade in the hell hole of New Jersey shoveling the white shit one month out of the year. Second best day of my life was leaving that state.
LOL. I was born in Orange County. Never lived anywhere else until I moved. Leaving was the best decision I ever made. And until you do leave, you won’t realize that the lie that “California is the best place to live“ is exactly that, a lie. “Mild winters“ is the ONLY thing California has to offer. Hardly worth it to live in that swirling vortex of shit and misery.
"Never lived anywhere else until I moved." Okay. There's your problem. And when the going got tough, you cut and ran. I've been all over the country. There's lot of nice places to live. And I understand why people love their homes. But I'm not a gypsy. And this is my home. Glad you're happy away from here. Really I am. Everyone deserves that.
But have you ever thought about the fact that the reason it got this bad, is that other people moved here, and people like you moved out, and let them have their way?
When do you stop running away...? Next time? The time after that? Ever?
Oh for fuck sake. Orange County became a shit hole because of uncontrolled Mexican immigration, not to mention all the Asians and Middle Eastern people that have infested that place. It started when Nixon let the Vietnamese land at El Toro and continued with Reagan gave the wet backs amnesty. Why would I waste the rest of my life trying to fight that when it is pretty obvious that is an exercise in futility? Go ahead and keep pretending that Orange County is wonderful. I understand you have to do that because you are stuck there, but the reality is it’s a swirling vortex of shit and misery and it’s never going to get better, just worse. But you keep fighting for the cause, buckaroo. You are in denial. I didn’t “cut and run“. I simply realized that the idea that California is awesome is a total lie. You can never admit when you’re wrong. That’s your problem.
I'm as "stuck" here as a bird. I have a profession I can shop in 50 states and four other countries in about a minute and a half, merely for wishing to.
But Orange County certainly isn't all of California. Thinking that was so was your second mistake.
Don't blame your just-beneath-the-skin butthurt on everyone else. You protest overmuch for someone so supposedly content now. It sounds like you're not happy until everyone's not happy. More shoveling snow, and less shoveling something earthier, if you please.
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Doesn't that kind of depend on what part of CA you live in? I've got a friend that lived near Truckee that might have a different viewpoint ;-)
Yeah mebbe if you live in Maine (as we once did) or Minnesota…
the winters in Boise bother me little, not enough to put up with the idiocy of Kali.
SP RN
No hate here. We like our harsh climate. As the ol' boy from Minnesota put it: "Between the ice in the winter, and the 'skeeters in the summer, it tends to keep the riff-raff out." Once the gummint teat goes dry (welfare, EBT, section 8 housing, etc.), I'm counting on what we have for an underclass here to self-deport.
Truckee? You mean the area where the Donner Party was stranded...?
Living thereabouts is punishment enough.
I'll take my snow with a side of Granite State Freedom, thanks.
the Free State Project came here to NH for a reason....
It's not California we hate. That's just shorthand.
It's a beautiful state, full of history and areas with wonderful climate and grand vistas.
It's Californians we hate. Not all of them; just the majority that's in control.
I feel the same way about my native state, Illinois. I miss my 4 seasons, big rivers, vast fertile farmlands, and its history.
But it's full of libtards, and the worst of them, the Chicagoans, run the whole state.
It's good here in Texas. Don't like the occasional hurricane, or freeze, or the fact that English is not the majority language. There are tradeoffs.
A friend made reservations at a resturant which announced table availability as "X, party of #", and had us listed as "Donner, party of eight". I was amazed that no one but our people reacted.
Jihn in Indy
Days I have spent worrying about Earthquakes?
Zero.
Tsunamis
Zero.
Mudslides?
Zero.
We all live with the inconveniences and dangers of our locales.
But our below zero winter days keep down the mosquitoes, flies, riff-raff, and other vermin.
RD
@lpdbw,
In 99% of cases, they're as "Californian" as Pelosi or Schwarzenegger.
And overwhelmingly, they're your toothless banjo-playing kinfolk (I've seen the SSNs, and they aren't from here), who couldn't drift any farther west after they hit the Pacific coast. And got stuck here after they failed out of rehab.
@RD,
Only out-of-staters worry about earthquakes. We simply expect them.
Like other states do hurricanes, tornadoes, blizzards, and floods.
80 here in Florida today. 9 blossoms on my Bird Of Paradise bush.
does that 'overwhelmingly' include the roughly 25% of the population of cali born in some other country?
@Borepatch,
As it should be!
@JimR,
Robustly so.
Winter is a feature, not a bug. It is one of the few things that somewhat limits colder climes from becoming the oozing pustulant carbuncle that is California, from spreading even worse than it has. It keeps those who think that life can be lived in shorts, t-shirts and slides/flip-flops at a lower ebb, especially after the first winter.
I'd rather shovel snow than mud. An aunt used to live in or around Montecito, lucky she got her car out of the basement garage of the apartment building...
Snow definitely thins the vermin, and it was only 20 below for a couple of days. Firewood is the killer. I spend a lot of time cutting wood.
Snow is bad! Snow is evil! God told Noah to build a boat. Didn't say nuthin about skis, sleds or snowmobiles.
Is it just the climate and Hollywood that draws people out that way? I just don't get the appeal of modern California. 1950-1970 California I'd have liked to visit.
A lot of people who I once called friends got the bright idea to make a go for California and Colorado. They didn't like my response of "Your ass can't survive BFE with family GIVING you a place to live. What makes you think California or Colorado will be any better?"
Years later. They're no longer friends, now junkies, and still here in BFE. A while back I did consider buying some of them a bus ticket out West. However at that time a Lee-Enfield No.4T, a 308 Galil, and a trijicon equipped FNX45 killed my charitable nature.
Aesop,
You have been noticeably MIA for a few days. Hmmm?
Work is interfering with my real life. :P
There's also a definite SS,DD component to the national and international clown show.
I feel like the Babylon Bee most days: things have gotten so effed up, it's hard to write good satire when the real deal stuff is so batshit whacked.
Strictly speaking, there's only a day or two each month I haven't put up something.
I have to cut mine back every year in Okla. : (
but I bring them in and they stay pretty big.
Whoever thinks winter keeps the commies away hasn't spent any time in Jackson,WY and the area about 50 freaking miles around as only one example.
Of course Mammoth Mountain CA ( a childhood favorite) had to close down for a bit for too much snow.
At least western snow can be swept rather than shoveled; eastern snow oughtta be on the periodic table somewhere around lead or uranium.
Boat Guy
It snows in NYFC and Bahstun.
Which, of course, explains why the libtard scum haven't clustered there.
OH!..................
Nevermind.
I used to say "shoveling snow is what kids are for" but I loose my last snowplow in a year....
Snow? What's that? Don't even notice it. Love drivin' snow-packed roads! And my skies have a motor attached. Oil gone in ten years....now that's funny. Y'all can drive those Teslas, they don't work up here in the Alaska winters. We'll keep drillin' thank ya.
Meanwhile, we'll just shoot down those chink balloons...
Have you seen how much they freak out when it snows? Especially NYC!
Meh. CA native, lived there for 50+ years--north, south, mountains, beach. Lived and worked in both LA and SF. Also lived where it snowed a little, where it rained a lot, and where the weather was pretty much perfect year 'round.
You can keep it. No amount of easy weather is worth putting up with the idiots, both imported and homegrown, that now characterize what used to be the best place on earth. Cultural rot abounds, voting has become meaningless, and nothing else is going to stop or even slow the decline. I have many more working years and young kids to raise. Stay and ride it all the way down because I like the weather? That's effing crazy.
Adios, mofos.
Every place on earth has weather. You just change your kit to suit, and enjoy what that season has to offer. No such thing as bad weather, only bad gear.
If shoveling snow is just too much...by all means, stay in CA. May your chains rest lightly and such.
That just leaves more room for those of us who prefer to live in relative freedom and sanity, and who don't mind shoveling a little white stuff now and again. It's a good workout.
When you finally decide to leave, I won't ask you to turn off the lights--they'll already be out by then.
It was nice while it lasted, though.
Aesop, you are lucky. I spent a decade in the hell hole of New Jersey shoveling the white shit one month out of the year. Second best day of my life was leaving that state.
I lived in Orange County for 49 years and then I moved back to America. I have snow. You have illegals and Gavin. I’ll take the snow.
You're gonna miss all the fun when the illegals start getting shovelled out like snow. :p
But if you were just visiting here, rather than actually born a Californian, please tell me you're honest enough to not identify yourself as one now.
LOL. I was born in Orange County. Never lived anywhere else until I moved. Leaving was the best decision I ever made. And until you do leave, you won’t realize that the lie that “California is the best place to live“ is exactly that, a lie. “Mild winters“ is the ONLY thing California has to offer. Hardly worth it to live in that swirling vortex of shit and misery.
"Never lived anywhere else until I moved."
Okay. There's your problem.
And when the going got tough, you cut and ran.
I've been all over the country. There's lot of nice places to live. And I understand why people love their homes.
But I'm not a gypsy. And this is my home.
Glad you're happy away from here. Really I am. Everyone deserves that.
But have you ever thought about the fact that the reason it got this bad, is that other people moved here, and people like you moved out, and let them have their way?
When do you stop running away...? Next time? The time after that? Ever?
Best wishes.
Oh for fuck sake. Orange County became a shit hole because of uncontrolled Mexican immigration, not to mention all the Asians and Middle Eastern people that have infested that place. It started when Nixon let the Vietnamese land at El Toro and continued with Reagan gave the wet backs amnesty. Why would I waste the rest of my life trying to fight that when it is pretty obvious that is an exercise in futility? Go ahead and keep pretending that Orange County is wonderful. I understand you have to do that because you are stuck there, but the reality is it’s a swirling vortex of shit and misery and it’s never going to get better, just worse. But you keep fighting for the cause, buckaroo. You are in denial. I didn’t “cut and run“. I simply realized that the idea that California is awesome is a total lie. You can never admit when you’re wrong. That’s your problem.
I'm as "stuck" here as a bird. I have a profession I can shop in 50 states and four other countries in about a minute and a half, merely for wishing to.
But Orange County certainly isn't all of California. Thinking that was so was your second mistake.
Don't blame your just-beneath-the-skin butthurt on everyone else. You protest overmuch for someone so supposedly content now. It sounds like you're not happy until everyone's not happy. More shoveling snow, and less shoveling something earthier, if you please.
That's what poker players call a "tell".
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