Monday, November 12, 2018

I'm Here, At This Point

























Go read this spot-on rant today at Gun Free Zone .
"I don’t want to divide up the country.  I don’t want to occupy New York City or San Francisco.  I just want to take the minority of outraged Radicals and build a monument to freedom with their skulls."
If someone posted that next Wednesday at noon was National Housecleaning Day, and gunfire broke out at that point within earshot, I can't tell you I wouldn't join in the festivities.

I can tell you that for anyone who joined in, everything after the first shot is essentially free, (you can only hang a man once, after all) and the things that would stop anyone at that point would be only their own death, a lack of ammunition, or a dearth of further targets, and nothing less.

With CA, AZ, GA, and FL, we're watching Democrat BAMN tactics subvert multiple federal and state elections, openly, brazenly, and entirely free of any sort of fear of consequences or repercussions.


They aren't even bothering to try and hide it. h/t Xenophilic blog























At that point, this is no longer even a country, just a banana republic, and the answer to that is lead travelling at muzzle velocity, not only philosophically to a moral certitude, but every time things devolve to that point in world history to date.

The Democrat Party is willing to burn America down in order to steal it, and they are now the open enemy of the state and the people, and they're going to get their reply ballistically, not rhetorically. Once you're kissed in the forehead that way, there is no further reply. Nature is brilliantly subtle like that.

Nothing less will suffice any longer, unless I read tomorrow that entire counties of their operatives have been rounded up in mass arrests for federal prosecution for election tampering, and are being tried in batches at the local stadium.

The only open question now is timing.

I'm not telling anybody to open that party, but I'm telling you that party's getting opened, and once the genie's out of the bottle, all bets about how long, how widespread, and how bloody are rampant speculation based more on hope than reality.

We had a country.

One side has consistently refused to live under the rules of that country.

They are about to reap the consequences of that course of action, in a Darwin Award-winning manner, and it's liable to be the Third Punic War for them, their families, and anyone carrying water for them, before the dust settles, whether it happens in dribs and drabs, or all at once from coast to coast.

But the match and the fuse are about to have a fateful meeting.

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Before we get there, though, TLDavis has a suggestion.

My thoughts on that:

Before we get to “massive social unrest”, what does it take for people to start dropping wrenches in the gears of everyday life?

Think about it:

How many stop lights a day can crews replace?
What happens to traffic when all the ones within two miles of Douchebag Central get shot out, one at a time, and every intersection in all directions is now a 4-way stop?

How many suspicious packages can the Bomb Squad handle simultaneously?
What about if left on major arteries into downtown?
At rush hour?
What happens if one of them goes off first, to show they’re not all just for looks?

What if a few barrels of chemicals and hazmat get spilled, “accidentally”?
On major highways? Or at bridges and tunnels and other natural chokepoints?

What happens when some thoughtful souls all decide to shove 5# of rags into every toilet in a public building?
Or just dump a coffee can or two of Readycrete there?
Or, both?
And pull the fire alarms on their way out?

And then do the same thing at the local university?
What happens when you dump 10K college kids out of classes all at once?

Who do you call when persons unknown shoot a length of wire across all the high tension power lines a block away in each direction?
Or saws through the poles an inch a day, until one day a gust of wind kicks up, and fate takes a hand?
What happens when all the locks are epoxied closed on a long weekend?
At the Welfare Office?
You’re going to protect every public building, everywhere, 24/7/365/forevermore?

How many pounds of Bondo and limburger cheese or expanding foam does it take to kill an ATM?
What happens when you hit every ATM for miles?
What if you do the same thing to city parking meters?

How hard is it to jark a card key reader so no one can get into the parking lot?
Or disable the swing arm gates?

What happens when people start dropping tire-killing caltrops around whenever the mood strikes?
What if they were painted black, and left at the driveways to the police stations?
Or the city maintenance vehicle yards?

What if people started setting up random sandbag and cone “detours” around town, just to f**k with traffic flow?

We haven’t even gotten to the WWII resistance tactics of screwing with signs, street addresses, etc.

So when everything comes to a halt, and the Krooked Korruptocrats can’t even get to work, and don’t have time to steal an election, and the city or cities in question are in total chaos, and you have no one to arrest, or investigate, or question, and there hasn’t been a single casualty, or a single bullet fired, then what?

What happens when Phase II becomes taking the pain to private enterprise?
Especially those corporate entities that have funded the Communists and TPTB?
And the NGOs and “community organization” douchenozzles trying to replace you demographically?

And nobody’s had to wait for “massive social unrest”.

In fact, they’ve instigated it.

And you haven’t blown up the power lines into the whole city.
Just the ones going to City Hall.
Or the Vote Stealing Office.
Or the Welfare Desk.

Civilization is a fragile thing.
The myriad and multitudinous ways it can be screwed with make any defense recockulously impossible.
That sword cuts both ways.

Ponder what happens if you let the bastards know that burning up the social contract has consequences in both directions.
Just that.
They’ll get the message.
Via megaphone.

And long before we get to blood in the streets, and at no cost to your economic livelihood.

Snipers are always more economical than artillery or carpet-bombing.

58 comments:

Dan said...

All those 'what ifs' about doing things to gum up the works sound interesting.
But it is no longer as simple as it would seem. Yes...you could engage in many
of these low grade sabotage festivities.....but the ugly reality of modern life
is the odds are VERY HIGH you will get caught. There are literally cameras
EVERYWHERE in most cities....and they're not uncommon in smaller towns. So if
you do something along these lines the odds are very good that either your face
or your license plate will be caught on camera.....not to mention your cell phone
is the biggest tattle tale in the world, if it goes with you then those in charge
can and will pull ping records from every cell tower necessary to prove who was
where when....and use that data to hang whoever they want dangling. So anyone
who chooses to 'step off the porch' better realize that getting safely back to that
porch is not an easy task.

Eaton Rapids Joe said...

Good post. Little guys have always had an advantage in pushing back. There are always a lot more little guys and many of our jobs give us time to think and plan.

Most of the time we walk around with an empty chamber, the safety on and our finger off the trigger. But until now there have been enough willing to kick valve-stems and such to give the dominators pause.

By the way, I think primer gray is a better choice for caltrops than black. Black is reserved for formal events.

Jess said...

I watched civility disappear after two hurricanes. The problem was a lack of food, gasoline and electricity. Of course, when these things were replaced, society became civil again, but I wondered what would happen if all the food trucks, gasoline tankers, and electrical workers decided to not go? After careful thought, I realized the large urban centers are about two days from chaos, and a vengeful rural society could bring any of them to their knees with impunity.

Aesop said...

Noted. Such objections are legitimate.

Item 1: Halloween or ski mask, ball cap, bandana, and 57 other things, including nose and glasses, etc.
Item 2: What license plate?
Item 3: What cell phone?

I once made a cardboard license plate as a prop for a stage show that would fool any camera invented, just for one example. It takes about half an hour.
Suppose, for instance, you picked the number of the plate of the chief of police, or some prominent turd on the other side, for a matching vehicle.

And you don't need a license plate for a bicycle, metro bus, etc.

If you walk into a mall, zoo, park, etc. dressed one way going in, and come out the other side looking completely different, you've just disappeared.
Spies called this "tradecraft".

Getting caught doing things you shouldn't is always a possibility.
If one doesn't take precautions, one deserves what happens afterwards.
PPPPPPP.

And the more incidents they're chasing, the less the chance that they can tie any one of them to anyone.

Look up the stats for unsolved homicides, burglaries, robberies, auto theft, etc. in any jurisdiction in any city, and get back to me.

TPTB can do many things; pulling 100% competence (or even 50%, in most cases) out of their back pocket will never be one of them.

Anonymous said...

What if this happens....etc.? Well, none of those pointed and righteous actions will take place until one or more of us working, tax-slave Deplorables cannot take it any more. When? My money is sometime in the Spring of 2019, after the American Communist Party takes control of the House, and the Dead Elephants in the Senate roll over and wet themselves. From now until then, it becomes all about planning, final preparations, and silence.

Ward Dorrity said...

Sometimes, the deadliest weapons one can employ are a piece of copper wire or a pair of wire cutters.

Who am I? Just a old guy in an expensive suit with a brief case and a smile.

Jim Scrummy said...

Tradecraft. It is a target rich environment, and cities even with all the cameras, are still vulnerable. There are many ways to resist creatively, educate yourself, and be smart. The rule of law still exists, barely.

Anonymous said...

Won't happen.
One or two isolated incidents will go unnoticed and unfelt.
In order to get our point across, we have to organise groups to enable mass synchronised targeting.
They'll have the orange jumpsuits waiting for us.

What I think will happen is the proverbial spark.
One act from either side will set off a brakeless train of events, ending only when one side has been beaten into oblivion.
As you said, "everything after the first shot is free"

And it won't be the antifa twats. They're the lousy warm up band. We'll be dealing with the headliner. Professionals.

CAVEO
Ned2

Anonymous said...

I think you underestimate the capacity for normalcy bias. Look at South Africa today. I used to be one of those "worse is better" accelerationists until I started paying more attention to South Africa. People are literally being crucified over there, having their kneecaps drilled out, nailed to tables, every twisted thing imaginable. This is being done under a government that looks the other way at best, and actively cooperates with the roving criminals at worst. Where's the armed resistance? Hell where's the political and economic resistance? If people won't offer resistance to being literally tortured and murdered, when will they?

Worse is not better. Worse is just worse. And people have an enormous capacity for accepting it as the new normal. No one's going to rise up and do anything about election theft in Florida. Not when late night TV hosts have a chucklefest about how delusional and conspiratorial is this idea of elections being "stolen".

Anonymous said...

Worse is just worse until it begins to affect the individual negatively. Which it will.
Lexington and Concord.
Fort Sumter
Marvin Heemeyer (Killdozer)
etc. Ad infinitum.

Unknown said...

No Dan,
there are many ways you can disable all there cameras with ever being seen as well using sat phones which cannot be traced immediately and takes 2 days to accomplish because the personal required to do this is more then one dumb ass analyst communist working for the failed FBI and Cia. You communications must be changed to converse with another so they cant ping anything from there 4 & 5g cancer spewing towers, and how about this Dan, the cell phone towers can be taken down very easy with fire bombs by burning out the entire power boxes and electronics that are fenced in and there goes the cell phone towers and there spying cell grid, they become useless. and all this can be done with a little bit of ingenuity. So it is this easy to do at various choke points to disable them on the ground, satellites are a whole other issue, and there are things that can be done to protect patriots from ever being found out who and what is behind it. Lastly you do have the rifle and with a few select trustworthy men , you can cause mass havoc accross the nation and all at once.

Tactless Wookie said...

Local. Local. Local. As CA says, Meatspace Baby!

Tucanae Services said...

Dan,

I will concur that the chances of getting caught are there. That being said, a modicum of disguise goes a long way in this world. Lets take ATMs for example. Most have cameras built in. Defeat using a mask. Those in vestibules also have area cameras as well. Ditto a mask. Also walk up to the ATM, and park some distance from it if using a vehicle. Be able to change outer clothing between sites. Change times of day to attack.

The more digital a security realm is, the more likely there are unique analog means to defeat it.

Anonymous said...

http://www.urmesurveillance.com
Cover your face - leave no trace.
Best Regards,

Red in OleVirginny

dmv gringo said...

Leave the electronic leash at home.
Give that a try, you Iphone slut.

Fred said...

Sometimes killing Evil is the only way left to be good. It's called self defense.

Unknown said...

Yes, the cameras are everywhere. Yes, that system can be effectively circumvented. One bugaboo remains. I have yet to resolve this.

That widespread guerrilla tactics is effective how are is it achieved? Coordination between actors must be established. I know it is possible yet I have not been able to find how.

Only two or three years ago I did run a dummy test. I posted notifications on many of the usual websites. I said what I was up to and what I planned to do. My objective was to test how many of the armchair brigade would actually answer the call. The result: zero persons rose to action.

I would love to think that action by one or a few would be so hard hitting that it would compel a larger number to respond but that is doubtful. All this talk of comms, team, AO is just that, talk. I reckon a lot of people are ready for that first strike but if they haven't seen it yet it is likely they will not ever; that first strike has already come.

Mike_C said...

Sorry, not aboard with monkey-wrenching our own infrastructure (traffic lights, highways, power lines, etc) IN GENERAL. IMNSHO that's no better than Baltimorons burning down their own neighborhoods, after stripping the CVS of drugs and the Korean convenience store of junk food. Targeted, VERY focused, monkey-wrenching may be a different matter.

IF someone were to do something extralegal (and I am NOT advocating this, because I am a law-abiding good citizen) the thing to do would be to target specific bad actors. Only when the pain (literal pain, interpret that as you will) is personal will they even begin to contemplate paying attention. And if they don't, well, the Chicom saying is "No person, no problem."

Unknown said...

It isn't only disguising your face. It is also changing your gait, become ambidextrous, change all your mannerisms which identify you. Do not talk, even if speaking in a high pitched tone.

Unknown said...

I was shopping in a store. I misplaced a bag of already purchased items as I continued my shopping. I went to the store manager to report so if they found the items they could contact me. The manager told me that they will contact me within 24 hours after they have reviewed the camera footage. They did and my items were found and returned.

The manager revealed that they tracked me from the parking lot to when I entered the store to each aisle to the checkout counter to continue shopping to the checkout counter and out the store to my truck in their parking lot. (They wanted to prove that my claim was legit and since ammo was involved they had to track it in real time.)

If you think that camera system in that store is not a microcosm of a network across an entire city then brother, I have a ocean front property in AZ to sell to you.

Unknown said...

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/13/meet-the-badass-nurse-who-drove-his-toyota-pickup-truck-back-into-paradise-to-rescue-patients/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

AB.Prosper said...

California already had an incident like this, some mokes shut down the power to silicon valley for a while by shooting op power lines or some such back in 2014

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/05/272015606/sniper-attack-on-calif-power-station-raises-terrorism-fears

It took them a month to fix this.

As for the roads, they are so bad in So Cal that I don't think anyone could tell deliberate sabotage from day to day dumb fuckery

How this washes out no one knows but I'm still hoping sanity prevails which is probably a forlorn hope at this point

red 3215 said...

Some other Tradecraft hints:

ALWAYS wear cotton gloves when handling any item you will leave behind. And while on task.

Buy old, loose fitting clothes at a Goodwill or Dollar store not near your home to wear on task. Throw away immediately after. Pay cash of course.

Leave the phone at home.

Never use your own vehicle. Always use a dummy or stolen plate.

Just sayin' of course. Not advocating anything.

brinster said...

I'd like to see forensic/dna analysis of every ballot cast in Palm Beach and Broward counties (fat chance). It would be hilarious to see madam Snipes peeing in her cotton briefs. Hmm, 500 ballots cast by the same person! Here's another 500.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Until you get caught anyway and then people start sending you death threats because they think you're a secret Leftist operative. Fun times!

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Tommy Lee Jones?

RCW said...

The Grimms' Three Billy Goats Gruff offers some wisdom regarding the West's current path to financial, commercial, political, social & cultural collapse.

RDB said...

Bondo and limburger cheese? I've never heard of that combo before. What the heck does it do?

Anonymous said...

Lots of armchair warriors here.
I hope when things get nasty, you'll all rise out of your mommies basement to the occasion.
Until then, try to stay grounded in reality.

Ned2

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, we are going to have to ride this puppy all the way to the ground.
Getting caught and put into prison as a terrorist is not going to help. The people who are voting for this mess are going to have to pay the Piper. And the Piper will be the Feds. When the dollar finally crashes the Feds will be machine gunning the Gibs Me Dat rioters, Antifa rioters, and Anarchists in the streets. Right now they are useful idiots. The people in power won't put up with their shenanigans once their Elite Status and Power is threatened.
We just need to prepare and survive and come out with our families in one piece on the other side. Save all you can, prep all you can, try to wake people up all you can, vote even though it doesn't do much good. Do not get all excited and do something stupid that will harm you or your family. What cannot last will not last. Just my .02.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Alternatively, you could learn from the Bundy's mistakes and build up your community. Maybe pool money and resources to help the people you're hoping to sway instead of pulling on the Martyr pants and then shitting them like the Occupy Portland Wildlife Refuge Seven.
Remember, for every group of good old boys protecting their second amendment rights, there's an FBI informant waiting to flip on you. Yes that includes cousin Jimmy.
Rule of Thumb: think Game of Thrones not Lord of the Rings and you'll do fine.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

How are the waves in Phoenix?

Dan said...

If a LOT of cranky people engage in low level sabotage and other such behaviors then the odds of getting caught diminish. .Gov has a LOT of resources and technology to use in identifying and arresting people who do such things. Enough resources to track down quite a few. To be relatively safe you need to be part of hundreds engaging in this misbehavior. The first ones "off the porch" run the very real risk of being caught and made a spectacular example of by those in power. And coordinating such acts to insure a large volume of actors is an invitation to a legal migraine.


Yes...you can wear a mask or bandana, and if it's butt cold nobody will pay attention.
That won't work in Phoenix etc. No license plate? GUARANTEED to get you pulled over by the po po (license plates = revenue for the po po). Cell phones? Us old guys grew up without them..... Younger people need to learn to not need them.

The reality is it is possible to gum up the works. But if your are sloppy or just unlucky the Men In Black WILL catch you and crucify you.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Aren't those three different things?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

"Give that a try, you iPhone slut."
I think he's talking about you, Department of Motor Vehicles American.

Linda Fox said...

(1) This is just a post giving people some ideas, and perhaps sparking some offline, local, decentralized conversation.
(2) From what I'm reading, this is also something that many WOMEN could get on board with, IF they were convinced that the alternative was actual gunfire. Women ARE going to have to buy-in to the plan, for it to be successful.
(3) Somewhere, a core that is NOT associated with Nazis, Alt-Right, or other polarizing sub-groups is going to start some of these actions. It will be done as showy, test actions, at first.
Eventually, it will catch on as a resistance to government thing. Those involved don't have to be in communication with a larger group. They might function as lone wolves.
All they need is some instruction/training, and let them "have fun".
This should be used in Democratic strongholds. The REAL purpose is to get the government to respond with repressive actions. Preferably those that piss off the population.
With the alternative media fanning the flames of discontent and division.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Now you're thinking like a mover and shaker!

Anonymous said...

* many a bad guy changes their cell phone pattern a few months before they plan on doing anything bad. Sauce - documentaries

* your cell phone is listening all the time. I've proven it enough times to my satisfaction. Sauce - advertisements appearing that I've only ever spoken about audibly never searched for. Sauce 2 - phone advertisement related to snoring :-/

* If you can't do it, leave it alone. Forget it! Don't try and talk someone else into doing it and ESPECIALLY don't hear of anyone else trying to talk YOU into anything. Don't talk, period! However it can't hurt to begin now to learn, to train, and to have materials ready.
[Vol. IX, #5– Sept., 1980]

* look at how many people get caught "planning" illegal acts (STFU)

* Act individually, consult no one but your own conscience

DaveC said...

You missed the point about the ease of an operation across an area, not by a single operator, but many.

It's an interesting scenario in that we have seen how quick single instances cause disorientation, multiply many instances over a densely populated area and the disorientation expands exponentially.

Of course, such an operation would require planning and in that stage the opportunity for stopping it before it ever started is greater than afterward.

Anonymous said...

@Dan

So the first act of following Aesop’s suggestion is to take out cameras everywhere you see them. I seldom feel like I have an actionable idea, but this may be a winner. Camera snipers. One person - one camera. Blind the snake first. They would run out of time, technicians, and replacement parts. Use high quality air rifles. What is the legal consequence of disaing a camera with an air rifle? A misdemeanor until they start calling it an “act of terrorism”. Then they are seen for what they are. Lawlessness under the guise of lawfulness.

Anonymous said...

“ I would love to think that action by one or a few would be so hard hitting that it would compel a larger number to respond but that is doubtful. “

I seem to remember 911...?

But they knew and accepted that they were dead already.

dmv gringo said...

You most certainly are not.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

As the young people say, don't be jelly, DMVehicles

The Gray Man said...

Excellent plans. Just know, those on "the right" will be absolutely "shocked", "appalled" and "shaken" by these actions. People on "the right" always "respect the process".

KingTooter said...

Well played, sir

The Gray Man said...

Can anyone please tell me if a quart-sized ziploc bag of quik-crete would be sufficient to damage the plumbing of poured into a toilet and flushed? Also, would it be enough if four or five toilets each had a quart bag poured in? Asking for a friend.

dmv gringo said...

Sorry, I don't speak ghetto.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

I never implied you were Jewish, DMVG Ringo.

Anonymous said...

A bit of advice, if I may....

Memorize this name: George Hayduke.

Then:
Buy his books. Memorize his Rules Of Conduct.
Stay quietly grey and anonymous.
If you plan to to take action, consider ALL of the consequences if
your action(s) fail.
And then be prepared to live with the consequences of your actions-
and possibly perish with them - and then go down swinging hard and doing damage.

I have no more advice to give, except this: the man who did the worst damage to the F.B.I. in the past 32 years was just recently murdered in prison - James "Whitey" Bulger, who managed to convince THEM that it was in THEIR best interest to support him. Refer to the book, "Where The Bodies Were Buried"
The man who tells you that you have no chance, that you cannot fight the government, is a government agent.

Regards,

Stilicho

Wes said...

It's very easy to find people who agree with you. It's very hard to find people who are willing to risk it all and Do the Deed!

I hear all the time.. Well what are you waiting for?

I can't go it alone.

There in lies the problem.

Americans as a people are fighters. We come by that trait honestly. We had to fight for our very freedom from a dictatorial monarchy. Our government has never been perfect, but when our government ignores the rulebook it was given, it is our duty to fight.

When it comes down to it, many Americans simply don’t have the spine or fortitude to stand up and fight, even with liberty on the line. But self-government requires the people to engage and take action. Otherwise, the system begins to run on its own accord, growing ever larger, more powerful and less responsive to those it was meant to serve. Soon the servant becomes the master. Sometimes, we have to stand up and cut the monster back down to size. It’s hard. It’s messy. And sometimes, it’s downright scary. But stand up we must!!!

The Liberty Movement doesn’t need to agree on the “usefulness” of physical action because it is coming regardless. The only things left to discern are when and how. Make no mistake, one day each and every one of us will be faced with a choice – to fight, or to throw our hands in the air and pray they don’t shoot us anyway. I certainly can’t speak for the rest of the movement, but in my opinion only those who truly believe in liberty will stand with rifle in hand when that time comes. A freedom fighter is measured by how much of himself he is willing to sacrifice, and how much of his humanity he holds onto in the process. Fear, death, discomfort; none of this matters. There is no conundrum. There is no uncertainty. There are only the chains of self-defeat, or the determination of the gun. The sooner we all embrace this simple fact, the sooner we can move on and deal with the dark problem before us.

The Freeholder said...

A few things that occur to me.

If you can reach a camera, any can of spray paint will do to block its view. If they are out of reach, a well-aimed laser pointer will work wonders. One might substitute a pellet pistol for those difficult to reach targets. However, if the camera(s) are monitored, you've jut rang the warning bell. Within a few years, expect to see all cameras owned by government and big- and medium-sized businesses monitored by AI bots. Seriously.

Many organizations depend on wireless networking to keep things moving. Any individual with an electronics background can find out all the possible frequencies, then design a simple device that will transmit at a higher power on those frequencies, thus jamming them. It wouldn't take much more effort to make the device look like something that should be seen in that environment. Placing it would require some balls, though.

Use the above on municipal wireless networks, especially during some special event, and just stand back and watch the fun.

High-quality hacking tools are available on the dark web for reasonable prices. The is no organization that isn't vulnerable somewhere.

Everyone seems hung up on needing some sort of organization to carry out these acts. Unbox your thinking. Cells of One are a real thing, and if enough people, say, old folks with much less to lose, get hacked off badly enough, stuff will get started in due course. Watch for it.

Just thinking out loud, mind you.

MEALONE said...

Don't overthink every little "opportunity". "A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." Who said that!!?? Who duh f(*ck said that??!!
I think it was Gen. Patton, sir.

Anonymous said...

BTW's, has anybody noticed those large scary tower thingies that loom over the entire landscape? They vaguely remind me of the movie "WAR OF THE WORLDS" or maybe "CELL". Taken for granted because they're seen constantly they no longer are seen. Huh, interesting.

Aesop said...

@Anonymous 7:20P

Which would be germane, if anyone actually did any such thing against the federal government.

Asking what would happen hypothetically, if someone did it against local and state governments, OTOH, renders the citation moot.

And even local prosecutors would have little luck trying to bootstrap the equivalent of malicious mischief into "making war".

Also, nota bene that despite a CI to participant ratio of 1:1 regarding the @##clowns of Malheur, the feds couldn't get 1 single count to stick for far more robust violations of that exact statute.

June J said...

In 2017 Chicago Police solved 17% of the murders in the city.

Houston Police are still trying to find cardiologist Dr. Mark Hausknecht's killer, even after managing to finally identify him.

Consider also that people monitoring cameras or reviewing footage may not be sympathetic to an oppressive government’s agenda

“The rates at which homicides are considered cleared – meaning someone was actually arrested and handed over to the courts for trial – have declined alarmingly in America. The FBI estimates that the homicide clearance rate in 2012 was only 64 percent, down from 90 percent reported in 1965 when the government first reported statistics.”
http://www.decodedc.com/how-many-unsolved-murders-are-there-in-the-u-s/

“Only about half of the violent crimes and a third of the property crimes that occur in the United States each year are reported to police. And most of the crimes that are reported don’t result in the arrest, charging and prosecution of a suspect, according to government statistics.”
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/01/most-violent-and-property-crimes-in-the-u-s-go-unsolved/

So if as much as 36% of murders and 50% of violent crimes and property crimes aren’t solved....

Anonymous said...

NEVER walk with an empty chamber. Dead man walking.

The Freeholder said...

JJ is correct, some of the current watchers may well sympathize with our views. However, the video streams are preserved, and so others who don't can go back and check.

And AI becoming the watcher? It seems my timeline is off a bit. It should have occurred to me that a surveillance state like China would have already been working on it. Don't let the pretty face they put on it fool you. https://www.techradar.com/news/huawei-launches-full-smart-city-platform

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Still waiting