Saturday, October 18, 2014

CNN: Back To Spreading BS



After days of the increasing realities about Ebola pushing them to actually, y'know, do news, CNN has gone back to pimping utter horsefeathers about Ebola. Apparently, Dear Leader is pissed about the coverage, and the party line must be toed, and this crap isn't going to shovel itself:

(CNN) -- The U.S. experience with Ebola is generating commentary that is both prudent and outrageous.
There have been only three cases of Ebola occurring on U.S. soil, one ending fatally and the other two now under treatment.
While health officials provide sober guidance on the deadly disease, several public figures, from high-level politicians to cultural icons, haven't been so even-tempered in their remarks, adding to the public hype that has become associated with the virus.
Here is a sampling of those provocative comments, plus a little myth busting, clarifying and reality checking from Ebola experts from around the world.
"If you bring two doctors who happen to have that specialty (Ebola) into a room, one will say, 'No, it will never become airborne, but it could mutate so it would be harder to discover.' Another doctor will say, 'If it continues to mutate at the rate it's mutating, and we go from 20,000 infected to 100,000, the population might allow it to mutate and become airborne, and then it will be a serious problem.' I don't know who is right." -- Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told CNN.

Ebola isn't transmitted through the air. It is transmitted through direct contact by bodily fluids with an Ebola-infected person showing symptoms of the disease.
A mutation such as the kind Dempsey describes "would be exceedingly rare" in one epidemic, said Edward C. Holmes of Marie Bashir Institute for Infectious Diseases and Biosecurity at the University of Sydney.
"It happens over evolutionary time, millions of years," Holmes said. "This idea that it takes one or two of those mutations and 'Wham!' you pick up airborne transmission, that is way too simplistic."

Yeah, and Ebola coming to the US would be "highly unlikely" too.
There are more Ebola patients right now than the total that have existed in world history prior to now. Every one of them is multiplying viruses by the millions per hour, each one of those replications is another roll of the genetic dice to a mutation. Times the 9000-20000 cases there are. So "exceedingly rare" is cold comfort if we happen to win that jackpot, and right now, the virus is pulling on slot-machine handles like a monkey on crack with a bucket of nickels in every one of those patients, EXACTLY AS THE JCS CHAIRMAN WAS TOLD, AND REPORTED.
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"If someone has Ebola at a cocktail party, they're contagious and you can catch it from them. -- Sen. Rand Paul, a physician and potential 2016 presidential candidate

Again, experts say the contact with an infectious person must be tactile, or direct touching, and involve bodily fluids -- blood, sweat, feces, vomit, semen or spit.
People in West Africa are avoiding hugs and handshakes because the virus can be spread through the sweat on someone's hand.
The uninfected person would have to have a break in the skin of their hand that would allow entry of the virus, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta said. But "we all have minor breaks in our skin. And there is a possibility that some of the virus can be transmitted that way."
Paul also made other remarks regarding direct contact: "They say all it takes is direct contact to get this. If you listen carefully, they say being three feet from someone is direct contact. That's not what most Americans think is direct contact."
Without directly addressing Paul's claims about contact over three feet, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Dr. Thomas Frieden indicated that's not a possible mode of transmission for the virus.
"Should you be worried you might have gotten it by sitting next to someone?" Frieden said, according to the Louisville Courier-Journal. "The answer to that is no."

Rather than note yet again what a bullshit-spewing assclown Frieden is, let's just look directly at the CDC's own guideline regarding exposure:
Close contactClose contact is defined as

  1. being within approximately 3 feet (1 meter) of an EVD patient or within the patient’s room or care area for a prolonged period of time (e.g., health care personnel, household members) while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment (i.e., standard, droplet, and contact precautions; see Infection Prevention and Control Recommendations); or
  2. having direct brief contact (e.g., shaking hands) with an EVD patient while not wearing recommended personal protective equipment.
Brief interactions, such as walking by a person or moving through a hospital, do not constitute close contact.
So CNN takes Paul to task for telling the exact truth, and gives Frieden a megaphone for disseminating more rose fertilizer (because he can't help himself). Bravo, idiots.
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"The most comforting thing that I heard from (Dr. Brenda Fitzgerald, commissioner of the Georgia Department of Public Health) was that water kills the Ebola virus. I've never heard that before. I thought it was something that was so contagious there wasn't much you could do to prevent it or anything else, so her advice was 'wash your hands.' " -- Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal told the Marietta Daily Journal.
In fact, water alone does not kill Ebola. Soap and water does. So does chlorine and bleach, experts added."As with other infectious diseases, one of the most important preventive measures is frequent hand-washing. Use soap and water, or use alcohol-based hand rubs containing at least 60% alcohol when soap and water aren't available," the Mayo Clinic said about the prevention and spread of Ebola infection.
Wrong, jackholes. Neither water, nor even soap and water, kills fuck-all in Ebola. At least not anywhere near fast enough to matter. They mainly wash them off of YOU, and send them DOWN THE DRAIN.
What kills Ebola?:
Viricidal options:"Ebolavirus is susceptible to 3% acetic acid, 1% glutaraldehyde, alcohol-based products, and dilutions (1:10-1:100 for ≥10 minutes) of 5.25% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite), and calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) "
We don't wash our hands to kill germs, we wash our hands to get the germs off of them. If such regular burial-at-sea manages to kill them in the process, well and good, but the main point of soap is to make things on your skin come loose, and the water washes the loosened cooties off. But hey CNN, thanks for sleeping through middle school science class.
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"The U.S. must immediately stop all flights from EBOLA infected countries or the plague will start and spread inside our 'borders.' Act fast!" -- Real estate mogul Donald Trump said on Twitter.
Most public health experts oppose such a ban.
"Many nations have banned flights from other countries in recent years in hopes of blocking the entry of viruses, including SARS and H1N1 'swine flu,' " wrote Laurie Garrett, a senior fellow for global health at the Council on Foreign Relations. "None of the bans were effective, and the viruses gained entry to populations regardless of what radical measures governments took to keep them out."
No ban will completely stop people moving about the world, experts said.
"It gives us the false assurance that we can ignore the problems that are happening in Africa," Wendy Parmet, director of the Program on Health Policy and Law at Northeastern University School of Law, told National Geographic. "At the end of the day, we can't. And our own safety depends on our getting it right there, not on building the walls."
President Obama this week said he opposes a travel ban.
Well played. Laurie Garrett is nothing but a science writer with a B.A., and currently shilling for the biggest globalist concern on the planet, which doesn't have the U.S.'s (nor anyone's but their own) best interests at heart.
Banning flights isn't a radical measure, it's a prudent one. No one can walk from Africa to the US. And no one can enter legally without a visa. (We'll set aside for a minute why this is Reason #11,000,001 for SECURING THE BORDERS.) So anyone coming here, from there, would have their point of origin checked, and if we're going to do this intelligently, they would then go into quarantine until they were presumptively disease free. That works with 100% efficacy, going back to the plagues of the Middle Ages. That's where the word "quarantine" came from: 40 days in strict isolation.
So bringing in gainsaying fuckwits to try and contradict common sense won't work any better than trying to do magic tricks with no clothes on. We see the bunny.
Thanks for playing.

"Reports of illegal migrants carrying deadly diseases such as swine flu, dengue fever, Ebola virus and tuberculosis are particularly concerning." -- Georgia Republican Rep. Phil Gingrey, a medical doctor, wrote to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Gingrey and other Republicans have claimed that Latino immigrants are carriers for Ebola, particularly via the U.S.-Mexico border.
"One of the reasons why I've been so adamant about closing our border, because if people are coming through normal channels -- can you imagine what they can do through our porous borders?" former Massachusetts senator and now New Hampshire Senate candidate Scott Brown said in a radio interview.
Marine Gen. John Kelly, chief of the U.S. Southern Command said, "If Ebola breaks out, in Haiti or in Central America. I think it is literally, 'Katie bar the door,' in terms of the mass migration of Central Americans into the United States."
Health experts said those fears are grossly exaggerated.
CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden dismissed the possibility of Ebola reaching the United States via the southern border. "That is not happening," he said.
Hello, McFly? Is your head out of your ass yet?? No one said "it's happening", they said "IT COULD HAPPEN". Which is not only true, it's also far from "highly unlikely". It's certainly not "grossly exaggerated", and if you had actual experts to say that, you'd have conjured them by name, instead of holding a séance to summon your Imaginary Friends. So get off of buffing Frieden's knob, and wake the hell up.

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"I don't know ... But I think this Ebola epidemic is a form of population control. S*** is getting crazy bruh," R and B star Chris Brown tweeted.

Brown and a number of other public figures, including radio show hosts Rick Wiles and Michael Savage have advanced perhaps the most provocative statements.

Let's take this one by one.

The numbers don't support Brown's comment.

There are more than 7 billion people living on Earth. Worldwide, there have been a total of 8,997 confirmed, probable and suspected cases of Ebola in seven affected countries (Guinea, Liberia, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Spain and the United States), according to the latest World Health Organization figures.

There have been 4,493 deaths, the WHO says.

Then there's Christian radio broadcaster Wiles, who said Ebola "may be the great attitude adjustment that I believe is coming," according to the Colorado Springs Gazette.
Ebola "could solve America's problems with atheism, homosexuality, sexual promiscuity, pornography and abortion," Wiles said on his Trunews program, according to the Colorado Independent.
A prominent Christian evangelical group, Focus on the Family, denounced those remarks.
"Our first response as Christians to tragedies such as Ebola ought to be one of concern and compassion," Ron Reno, the group's vice president of orthodoxy, said, according to the Independent. "[P]ublicly speculating on God's motives in allowing specific outbreaks of disease is both unwise and unhelpful."
Finally, talk radio host Michael Savage said President Barack Obama wants to infect America with Ebola.
"There is not a sane reason to take three- or four-thousand troops and send them into a hot Ebola zone without expecting at least one of them to come back with Ebola, unless you want to infect the nation with Ebola," Savage said.
Obama sent those U.S. troops to West African nations with Ebola as part of an international effort to help eradicate -- not spread -- the disease.
"The most important thing in addition to treating and monitoring anybody who even has a hint of potential exposure here in this country, the most important thing that I can do for keeping the American people safe, is for us to be able to deal with Ebola at the source, where you have a huge outbreak in West Africa," Obama said Thursday.

Let's take this one by one.
1) Thanks for scouring the babblesphere for the craziest dipshits you could find, so you could roll out Ad Hominem, Scapegoating, Guilt By Association, Red Herring, and Strawman Fallacies by the dozen.
Unfortunately for you, they covered Logical Fallacies for most people in high school, and even the Greeks figured it out as pure BS some 2500 years ago. Apparently it's still not well-known in J-school, huh guys?
Unfortunately for your article, dragging them in is not the same as proving your points. It's just shoveling horsesh*t with a wider shovel, and flinging it harder.
Or, in this case, PRESSURE-WASHING THE VOMIT.

2) Ten months ago, there was 1 Ebola case.
To get to the nearly 9000 cases you note (which both WHO and the CDC acknowledge is far likelier to actually be 22,000 cases), the virus has had to double 13 to 14 times its original infection size of 1.
It's currently doubling in Africa about every 3 weeks on average. Sometimes, even faster than that.
AND NOTHING WE'VE DONE SO FAR HAS STOPPED THAT.
And if it doubles 19-20 more times, Ebola will be everywhere, and 70-90% of the planet will die from it, in a manner most hideous and unpleasant.

SO JUST MAYBE OCCASIONALLY, YOU FUCKWITS COULD NOTE THAT FACT, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO COBBLE A COLLECTION OF CERTIFIABLE MORONS TO DISCREDIT, AS THOUGH YOU'D ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING NOTABLE. IF ONLY TO EXPLORE THE NOVELTY OF ACTUALLY USING YOUR HEADS FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN A HAT RACK.

Just a thought.

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By Michael Martinez. CNN's Stephanie Smith, Zachary Wolf, Belle Reynoso and Sarah Aarthun contributed to this report.
 


UPDATE: Apparently the new media marching orders are simple:
SHUT THE HELL UP! EBOLA IS NO BIG DEAL!

NBC's version of the story above
ABC's slightly milder version of the above
CBS joins the parade a day late and a dollar short.
So far, CBS and only Fox seems content to continue reporting, instead of telling people what to think.

6 comments:

Able said...

I bought a (related) book yesterday and ended up speaking to the young man serving about what is going on. His response, based solely on media 'reporting', was that he felt it was being “too hyped up”.

I … was momentarily speechless (a vanishingly rare occurrence). An ostensibly intelligent and (assumed) educated man who felt the downplayed half-truths, obfuscations and outright lies being bandied about were … 'scaremongering'!?!

This is what we forget. The public at large have literally no idea. They have been bombarded with manufactured scare stories so much, and for so long, that they now just don't bother listening, and when they do … they assume that the media is 'exaggerating'. And those that don't, actually believe what is being spread. So even if (blue moon and pigs doing aerobatics aside) the media suddenly starts telling the whole truth … no one will believe/listen to them.

I tried to give him some idea, facts, information (even your blog address) but … I think he'll go on regardless, believing what he does. What more can you do?

The 'only' people here that seem even vaguely worried are former medical and military colleagues (although no one senior enough to 'matter' unfortunately).

As a society I think we've become 'too stupid to survive'.

gamegetter II said...

"Ebolavirus is susceptible to 3% acetic acid, 1% glutaraldehyde, alcohol-based products, and dilutions (1:10-1:100 for ≥10 minutes) of 5.25% household bleach (sodium hypochlorite), and calcium hypochlorite (bleach powder) " We don't wash our hands to kill germs, we wash our hands to get the germs off of them."

Medecins sans Frontiers recommends solutions of 0.5 and 0.05% chlorine,made from HTH chlorine-(like pool shock).


4. Infection control measures
Infection control measures are essential to limit the risk of transmission of the virus.
Disinfection
Soap, chlorine based products and UV from sunlight all destroy the FHF virus

Table 4. Chlorine solution and their uses
Chlorine solution Uses
0.5% Disinfection of:
- Body fluids, excreta, vomit, etc.
- Corpses
- Toilets and bathrooms
- Gloved hands
- Floors
- Beds & mattress covers
Footbaths.
0.05% Disinfection of:
- Bare hands, skin and shoes.
- Thermometers.
- Laundry.
- Plates, cups and eating utensils.

Disinfection of patient’s excreta, urine, vomit or blood:
- Add 0.5% chlorine with a cup to the container to cover contents and discard in the latrine.
- Wash container with soapy water and discard in the latrine.
- Rinse container with 0.5% chlorine and the container is ready to be reused.
- Pour 0.5% chlorine solution with a cup on fluids on the floor (watch out for splashing) and
cover fluids completely. (Sprayers should not be used to avoid formation of droplets.)
- Let stand for 15 minutes.
- Remove with rag or paper towels and discard in waste bin for infected waste.
- Wash area with water and soap.

102
Annex 12. Preparation of chlorine solutions
Two chlorine solutions are used: 0.5% and 0.05%.
Instructions are given below on how to prepare the solutions using HTH granules with 65-70% active

http://www.slamviweb.org/es/ebola/FHFfinal.pdf
The info is on pg 35 of the MSF document and in annex12

Note that Medecins sans Frontiers does not recommend pressure washing the vomit.

Nat Ratman said...

"only by direct contact with bodily fluids"

What is a sneeze? A cloud of aerosol droplets of - you guessed it - bodily fluids.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sneeze.JPG

Doubting Thomas said...

Fox New Megyn K on Frontier. See video at 4:58. The specific statement is that Frontier used an anti-biotic on the plane. I guess Ebola has mutated into a bacteria and Frontier knew that before anyone else did.

Seriously, I suspect they used something that actually does kill viruses, but it would be less dis-comforting to hear the person interviewed actually recognize the difference between bacteria and virus.

Doubting Thomas said...

Here is link to the video

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3846221436001/exclusive-look-inside-plane-carrying-ebola-victim/?playlist_id=2694949842001#sp=show-clips

Aesop said...

There aren't a lot of really scientifically astute people anywhere in the media. And the "experts" they get are usually anything but.

It's unfortunate, but if we're going to be consumers of information, we're going to have to investigate more, and trust less.