Point: Counterpoint

                 "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

Those of a certain age (this point will be important - keep your thumb in that spot) will remember a regular, and long-dead feature on SeeBS' 60 Minutes during the 1970s.

Reliably rabid Left-wing columnist of the era Shana Alexander, and reliably rabid right-wing columnist Jack Kilpatrick, would be tossed a cause du jour, which they would then fight over for about 60 seconds apiece, like terriers on a rat.

Mocked epically and hilariously on fledgling late-night show Saturday Night Live with Dan Aykroyd portraying Jack Kilpatrick, whose every episode's response to liberal Jane began, "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

Well, yesterday or so, for the benefit of those of you who don't visit there, this discussion, entitled Great Boomer Moments popped up over at WRSA, headed by this meme:

With my own meme-making skills still wet behind the ears, I can nonetheless recognize when someone has short-sheeted that argument just a tad. In a group originally numbering some 74M folks, the only thing one can say about Baby Boomers as a generation, is that they're all Boomers. Anything else is prima facie so logically inaccurate and truth-free that further exposition on the point is wildly inaccurate ad absurdum.
So I responded appropriately and far more accurately:

Touche', pussycat!

Equal time for opposing views. Sauce for the gander. And all that.

(Be in no confusion: website honcho CA and I agree far more than we'll ever disagree, and he runs a strict comments policy over there: Anything goes.) But I figured balance had been restored to the Force, and I toddled off to work for the evening.

And then Team Fucktard's champion came in and shit the bed, and got his stupid all over everything; to wit:

Another person who has all the ideas for OTHERS to try (all your B.S. about what ‘not’ to do for the lib’s march to D.C.- and you didn’t do SQUAT). And you have no responsibility for the current state of affairs in this country; you are a VICTIM because of your age! I guess you’re another who is pretending to have just turned 18 last November. 

I didn’t vote for Soc Security (or Clinton, or Obama, but don’t let facts get in the way of your sniveling). Did you vote for Soc Sec? No? You were not of voting age when FDR was president either? But I get the blame and you don’t? OK But I bet you have refused to participate in soc sec. so you are less responsible for that cluster than those older than you. Right? [But we all know you didn’t/can’t/won’t try to refuse to pay into Soc Sec.]
But you have ZERO responsibility, because you have a “blog” and that means you’re ‘doing something’. Oooooh Aaaahhhh! BFD

BTW, didn’t you write somewhere that you live in Kalifornia? Arguably the most socialist, debt-ridden state in the union? 

Hopefully I am mistaken about your residence; because only an extreme hypocrite would cast stones at people in other states who have not allowed that level of insanity to take hold in their states? 

But if I am not mistaken in that:
You’re just a blow hard.
And I can see why T-fat despises your ass.

Now, look here. I'm as gentle a kitten as can be, I swear, as any perusal of this blog's pages will attest. But if you're going to walk in, shove your finger down your throat, and throw up the whole bottle of Thunderbird you drank to come up with the impetus to write such a post, I'm going to get a bar mop, grab you by the stacking swivel, and set to cleaning up your chin a little. So here, for your amusement and entertainment, is the rejoinder to that little puddle of puke (and also, because it's a three-day weekend, and I see no reason to work very hard for blog fodder today. And hell, I was pretty proud of it if I do say so.):



Gosh, yeah, you caught me, I didn’t hop on a jet to fly 3000 miles to fuck up 23 whiny crybabies walking through the VA woods.
You were there though, right?
No?
Then STFU, and go apply some more butthurt cream.
CA’s post on the topic invited thoughts; I shared mine. And you brought…what, exactly? Yeah, thought so.

Now please, do go on about how I have any responsibility for the state of affairs in this country.
Show your work.

To date, I’m guilty of having my paychecks hijacked since the age of 14 for a “benefit” that I’ll never collect: it goes bankrupt before I get there.
I’ve voted against the shit I could, every time I’ve could, at every level, volunteered for campaigns for people and measures to stop it, and donated time, money, and effort.
But I can’t outdo the work of the fucked up children of the “Greatest generation”, who started as hippies, became college professors and rock stars, and have been undermining the country pretty much non-stop since decades before I was born.

The earliest actual boomers could vote for a president was the year Nixon was elected (i.e. someone born in 1945, the first year of the baby Boom, wouldn’t be 21 – the legal voting age – until 1966); other than Nixon’s fuck-ups which gave us one-term Carter, then 12 years of Reagan/Bush,

and a peacetime boom that went unhindered into 1999, when Democrats in Congress engineered the housing bubble. But it wasn’t until boomer’s kids could vote that we got Clinton, just as noted.

And whoinhell blamed you for Social Security? Are you 105 years old??? As I noted, correctly, that bullshit was more residue of the “greatest generation” (of theft from their children), and their fathers, for stealing from their grandkids, taking SS payouts that were paid for after contributing about $1 into the system for every $1000 they pulled out before they died off. So pull your head out and read what I wrote, instead of imagining what I didn’t write.

I never claimed victimhood, just placed the blame where it was:
the Progressive fucktards who voted in the 16th, 17th, 18th, and 19th Amendments, then piled on by giving us President Fuck Dem Republicans for four terms.
Blaming the boomers for what happened 25-40 years prior, exactly as I noted, is epic horseshit.

“Refuse to pay into Social Security?” So you’re a marijuana user, or unaware that the money for that is removed before I’m paid.
If you’ve sussed out the unicorn you described, please, show your work.

So I have zero responsibility, because I have zero responsibility.
Didn’t vote for any of the fucktard nonsense, voted against it every chance I had, did everything I could. I am one person. I’m not a generation. I’m me. You’re you. That’s how it works. Group punishment only goes in kindergarten and boot camp. As a nation, we’ll all pay for the majority’s fuck-ups, but suffering because the bus driver drove you off the cliff doesn’t become your fault because you were dragged along for the ride, and some folks are doing their damnedest to GTFO the bus before it tips.
So suck it up, buttercup.

And I’ve written, not somewhere, but frequently, that I do in fact live in Kalifrutopia. Born here, raised here, probably die here. We are, indeed, the most debt-ridden state in the nation, owing to our size and population. Most socialist? Eat shit and die.

I grew up with Governor Reagan – a true communist, no?
The minute I was old enough I dumped Moonbeam the first time. After that, I – and gazillions of my friends and neighbors - put in Republican governors who ran the state wisely and well. Oh, and a President who used to be our governor, a coupla times, IIRC.

And if you look at that meme above, I cast no such stones at anyone in other states for not letting them go to shit.

But since you asked…

The fly in the ointment here was overwhelmingly not native Californians, but rather your toothless, banjo-playing kinfolk who moved here from liberal hives by the Beverly Hillbilly Okie carload, and democrat-stronghold trailer-parks from hell to breakfast, because just like Texas (now, for the moment #2) CA then (1945- ) had the biggest, most booming economy in the country. We built ships, cars, airplanes, all the parts and sub-assemblies for same, drilled and refined oil, fed the world, made 99% of the world’s TV and movies and records (records: what they called CDs and iTunes back when people here worked for a living), and created Silicon Valley.

And over time, ass-loads of liberal fucktards from NYFC, Massholes from Boston, and all the trailer-park trash on the planet flocked here.

And helpfully, besides Teddy Kennedy fucking the country over with the Immigration Act of 1965, and 98 other senators and 400 other congressman looking the other way, nobody saw a problem with the flood of wetbacks who moved in, and started staying here – instead of picking lettuce for 4 months, and scampering back to mamacita’s house in Mehico to live on that cash the other 8 months. And they voted. Like Daley Democrats, including the dead. Hippies swarmed the Bay Area first, dragging Frisco down into the sewer it became by the 1970s. And decent people, who’d lived and worked here for generations, died off, and their kids watched their homes turned into shitville in a generation or two.

(Read anything Victor Davis Hanson has written about this in the last twenty years; he’s a third-generation farmer/rancher in the Central Valley, besides a world-class Stanford historian, and watched his locale go from mainstream America to Jalisco by way of Beirut in a generation.)
The same thing happened to L.A. next, and by the 1990s, the chickenshits who came here from somewhere else got the fuck out, because CA wasn’t home, just a paycheck, and the rats and fleas had fucked it up for everyone.

(And you and countless ignorant assholes refer to them as Californians. Ha! They’re as Californian as our recalled governor, Gray Davis; or Nancy Pelosi; or Barbara Boxer. Google/Wikipedia them, and tell me where they were from. Hint: not here.)

Even our homegrown asstards couldn’t get a word in edgewise until the rot was well-and truly into the roots. We wouldn’t have had Moonbeam the first disastrous time, nor Diane Feinswein, nor countless other assholes, until things were fucked up enough that their tribes could vote them back into power. 1974/5 was the tipping point, in case you wondered, and even then, they had a run for their money until they finally imported enough migras and chased out enough weak-kneed workerbees to rule the demographics.

So now we’ve got the migras in a conga line to infinity stretching from San Diego to Tierra Del Fuego and Shanghai, and your kinfolks and their spawn, and you’ve got the chickenshits who’d rather run than fight; by all means, keep them, but first ask folks in CO and OR and WA how that’s working out for them. TX is purpling up nicely too. You’ve got the faux Californians, and the ones who think you can run away from the problem. Where do you run to next? And your toothless, banjo-playing kinfolk are still here, still in a trailer, and they have nine kids from three baby daddies, and the ones old enough to move out live in tarps along the freeways and drainage canals.



You’ve imported literally millions of your biggest, goofiest, most worthless shitbags to us, just like Mexico has. They weren’t born here. They just can’t go any further west, and the weather’s nicer.

But the most socialist? Oh FUCK no. Massholes from Bahstun are miles ahead of us there, and everyone in NYFC who’s fucked over the PR of New Yawk. And Chicongo has dragged Illinois under, Detroitistan looks like Beirut in every way, Minnesota has been batshit crazy back to being the only D state against Reagan, Baltimorons have ruined Maryland, and the open sewer of NJ are all shitastically worse than here, as are RI and CT. We might barely make tenth on the list, but only because District of Communism isn’t a state, just a rump territory, and only because WA and OR are worse, but less important, nationally, though both are far lefter in every way than CA.

Take a look at the electoral map again, smart guy:
outside the coastal Blue Hives, most folks in CA are still politically to the right of Attila the Hun. (Compare 2016 to the earlier map)


Personally, given the nuclear codes for five minutes, I’d nuke five cities (three in CA and two in Mexico), and after that, the rest of CA would be redder than a sunburned pig’s ass for a century, and the most liberal candidate we elected at any level would call Limbaugh and Hannity soft on socialism. And we’d have the radioactive mess cleaned up in 6 months, sell it to Mexico as baby food at a net profit, and have the whole CA jobs and production machine ticking like a Swiss watch again in about a year.
And among the people I know here, I’m a mainstream moderate in that view.

(For a bonus, without those 55 CA electoral votes anymore, you’d never see another Democrat in the White House this side of 2200 A.D. You’re welcome.)

Ask me about secession then.

And frankly, I’ve paid my dues. I love it here, despite the shitheads in the state capitol. Just like people in 49 other states feel about their homes. Probably even you. They’re about to go epically broke here, the wheels will come off the wagon like Venezuela and every other attempt at socialism gone inevitably amok,and I’m going to get to watch the CA equivalent of Moscow 1990, and watch the statues of Lenin and Marx here get pulled down, by necessity, if not torch and pitchfork mob. I have a torch and a pitchfork, and a healthy list of folks to hang as decorations from the city gates, come the day. Hear me, God.

I have no idea how t-Fat feels about my ass, if he has any opinion whatsoever. Why you’d drag him into your tawdry whining I have no idea.
Most folks worth the time know how to make their own arguments without outside help.

But if, despite those realities, and nothing but the rash around your ass and a sagging diaperload of ad hominem, you want to suck t-Fat’s ass, despite the fact that even he’s throttled the shit-flinging way the fuck back lately, and actually makes a solid point now and again, it’s your tantrum.



There’s always room for a guy to be all they can be, and if you want to be That Guy, go ahead on; CA runs an open comments section here, so there’s nothing standing between you and the That Guy trophy but a few more contributions as mindless and butthurtedly worthless than that last one.
Just get out your crayon and a piece of tape, and fill your name out in the blank spot below.



So, did you really want to talk about the weather, or just make chit-chat?

I think this is yours…



                                                                 _______


Feel free to fact-check any of that you like, and have at it in comments.
Oh, if I should have issued a keyboard/beverage alert, my apologies.
And I do have one regret:
I didn't open the reply with
                                       "Jane, you ignorant slut!"