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Seems Michael hasn't learned his lesson yet, and took issue with the preceding post at the OP.
We replied.
Untroubled by any acquaintance with the facts publicly available, Michael asked for "sources".
So we obliged him. This particular cluebat may or may not have had some spikes pounded in the business end of it.
The host there may or may not tolerate seeing Michael educated so diligently (and we understand if that's the case), but since Mikey asked for this, we feel it dulce et decorum that his lesson be left on the chalkboard to remind him of the immortal words of Dean Wormer.
Round One
2 hours agoDon’t worry, General Aesop just posted two articles on this post for us.
The Poseidon doesn’t exist and nada, nada. Go read his military knowledge in full proud glory over there.
Is there anything Aesop’s not an expert on?
Well, we should be grateful HE’s keeping an eye on NC Renegade for us.
Need I add a sarc tag for the last sentence?
Green Hornet’s comment has it correct. Poseidon was created by Russia to keep America from getting nuke fever. Pity is that only works if your target audience is sane AND doesn’t think that AMERICA (Hooo Rahhh!!) is still THE SUPERPOWER of the world.
Odd how slinking out of Afghanistan and the FACT we’ve not won a war since WW2 simply rolls of their backs….
Between the idiots in District of Criminals, Think Tanks that say Ukraine is Winning and folks like Aesop, maybe the Russians are too rational to understand them.
Riposte
Two articles, Buckwheat?
Common Core grad, or just need a new prescription?I never said this doesn’t exist, I said it can’t be what it’s bullsh*t-splained to be.
So let’s look at the videotape, Captain Queeg:As to the Poseidon, going strictly by that bastion of accuracy, Wikipedia, it’s
a) not a torpedo by any stretch of that term
b) not a “Doomsday bomb” on the order of Tsar Bomba
c) could carry a nuclear warhead in the 2 MT range (U.S. Titan missiles in the 1960s and 70s carried 10MT warheads, for comparison)
d) has an imaginary speed of 100kts (which would be about as tough to detect and track underwater as a Chinese New Year’s parade with fireworks
e) has no “tsunami creation” function nor intent.
We surface-tested a 15MT warhead in the Castle Bravo test (and had multiple other MT-range tests at Bikini Atoll), and no tsunami was created, anywhere, from any of them, period.So “Radioactive tsunami-making torpedo” is three whoppers of total bullshit in just one line.
Speculation is that it uses a deep and very slow approach speed using satnav guidance (with no explanation of how they solved the physics problem of getting satellite signals down to 500 fathoms), only shifting to loud and stupid in terminal guidance mode, and that its warhead is deliberately dirtied up with cobalt. Which only works with surface detonation.
It’s main purpose with such a relatively modest warhead (nowhere near a “Doomsday” device would be as a very dirty conventional nuke, intended to contaminate the target area long-term and render it unusable, beyond the expected damage of a 2MT explosion.
So they’re intended to take out a port, particularly strategic naval bases like Norfolk, King’s Bay, Bangor, and Pearl Harbor.Okay, great. Play that card.
20 minutes later, D-5 Trident IIs start popping and dropping like rain from half a dozen points at sea, and 95% of the Russian population is a distant memory for the next 100 years 30 minutes after that.
Followed in short order by the US, and then most of the Northern Hemisphere. Game Over.
Now Brazil and Australia get to fight for control of the world.
Who does that help?
What’s the point?Some of us have been studying the details of nuclear war for decades, and when obvious vaporware bullshit of this magnitude pops up, it’s snort-worthy comedy.
At least when the Japanese hyperventilated about this, they came up with Godzilla, and made a buck.
The source article for this is stupidity marinated in rose fertilizer.
Make better choices.
To be fair, Michael's standard m.o. is not to answer any direct questions that are too hard for him (which is most of them), but instead to generally gainsay the original points, wave his arms, and ask new questions. Today was no exception.
Round Two
Aesop, kindly list the sources for your many assumptions and your CV of learning so much about Nuclear Weapons and apparently submarine actions.
Size of warhead, perhaps?
It’s been about 65 years since the Atol tests, maybe your information might be a bit off? Perhaps the shape of the undersea area is different? Example, deep sea vs Chesapeake Bay shallow? Distance of radioactive water movement of but a few dozen miles to important targets like Ah, DC?
AND for the record is there ANYTHING Aesop isn’t an expert about?
Asking for many.
Set and Spike
Remember, when you're putting the tourniquet on, that you asked for this, Michael:
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, man! Was telling you the info I referenced on Poseidon was straight from the Wikipedia page too hard to grasp?
Status-6 Oceanic Multipurpose System - Wikipedia
Learn to use your mouse for something besides a cat toy.
And you figure the widely-footnoted and researched published data from the Bikini tests have transmogrified since they ended sixty years ago??
Nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll - Wikipedia
Did the Nuke Fairy sneak in and leave bigger yields under someone's pillow in the last six decades?
Did the Underpants Gnome steal the craters left there??
It's not a question of the shape of the sea floor, it's basic physics: little bombs (and in oceanic and geologic terms, they're all little bombs) haven't the ability to create tsunamis.
FFS, the 2004 Sumatra Tsunami was a 9.2 earthquake that ripped the faultline 19 miles down below mean sea level, and ripped the faultline there for a distance of 810 miles. You figure the Russians have got a warhead that can do that? You could do stand-up comedy at CalTech with that joke!
2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami - Wikipedia
Here, let's get you a booster chair at the elementary geologic physics classroom for the 20 seconds it'll take to clue you in:
" The amount of energy released by the Hiroshima nuclear bomb was about 1012 J, whereas one magnitude 8.9 earthquake released about 1018 J of seismic energy (Figure 9). This is a million times more energy (i.e. a factor of 106) than the Hiroshima bomb."
That would be 15 GIGATONS for Common Core grads, (15,000,000,000 tons: as 15 BILLION with a B), or a single warhead as powerful as 258 Tsar Bombas.
Sh'yeah, whistle up one of those, please.
Earthquakes: 4.3 Seismic energy | OpenLearn - Open University
How sad you couldn't have pulled off two more mouseclicks before you jumped all over your junk.
And for the record, is there anything you are an expert about, or do you just latch on to everything you know nothing about and just dig in blind and start spouting off until you run facefirst into a brick wall of ignorance, over and over?
Nothing I told was anything you couldn't have confirmed all by yourself without having your hand held like a toddler, and you could have saved yourself from having your diaper changed publicly, for only about the 200th time.
Learn to do basic research, and educate yourself, instead of letting your mouth run away with you when your data bank is in deficit. Seriously, please try it, if only for the novelty of that approach.
And yet again, stirring crap with me on someone else's blog, without offering anything but the contents of your spleen. Color me shocked.
Why not go all in, and start your own, just so everyone can know which pronouncements to take the 180° opposite of?
And because I'm a nice guy, and hate to be rude to someone else on their own blog by having to educate you, if NC R decides this is just too painful to watch, (or post) I completely understand, so I'm archiving this answer and posting it on my blog, to memorialize this long-overdue moment in your education.
We repeat for your edification, Mikey,
Make. Better. Choices.
It's not that we know everything.
It's that we know so much more than you, with half our brain tied behind our back, because we look things up first, and you make it childishly easy to demonstrate it beyond any rational dispute when you just shoot from the lip, and fire blanks.
If you're going to keep whining and instigating like a little bitch, don't be too shocked when you get bitch-slapped.
The seismic moment (M0), which represents a physical size for the event, was calculated by the USGS at 3.9×1022 joules, slightly less than the 2004 Indian Ocean quake.
For reference, and to help out the Short Bus crowd on this, that was an energy release equivalent to roughly 100 million* Tsar Bombas. That would be a chain of 26'-long Tsar Bombas from Tokyo to the Moon and back. To get this:
From one Poseidon weapon? Sh'yeah, pull the other one, it's got bells on it.
2 comments:
Two observations:
First off good shooting Aesop. But how could you miss? Michael was sitting in a small keg of his own choice.
Second. If you look at the direction that both Russia and the US have taken since the Nuclear Test Ban treaty is was 'smaller, lighter, less yield', Tsar Bomba not withstanding. Precise targeting on both sides permitted that sort of development.
Christ, Aesop I can understand kicking retarded kids but that was driving over his ass with a riding mower and then turning around for another pass. If you're going to do that to somebody again, next time post a link to the Red Cross so his friends can donate blood.
He had three chances to mind his own business, and he had the right to remain silent, but he obviously lacked the ability.
And you owe me a keyboard.
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