(It turns out, with recent events, that it's time to re-post this one, from June of 2014, when our yearly average was fewer posts than we've done this month. But it's still dead-on balls accurate. It's an industry term.
The original genesis was a couple of posts and responses over at American Mercenary's blog - all of which which he obliterated shortly afterwards (probably to preserve his career as a field-grade Army officer selectee, in the tres-PC Army of Uncle Obozo) - and the back-and-forth garnered me no little amount of shit, including from Tam, for my temerity in pointing out what I'd seen with my own lying eyes, and which evidently was at odds with the Official Narrative Of The Sisterhood Of The Groped Pants. Sorry, but I calls 'em as I sees 'em, and when AM's blog went away, the grief from commentary there went away too. It was offered in the context of sexual assaults in the military, but the greater point, that most claims in or out are utter b.s., remains 24K truth. As 55% of the Senate Judiciary Committee could verify.)
Lies, Damned Lies, And Statistics
Amidst replies to a post elsewhere regarding rape, a discussion arose.
Since this deals with rape, let's set out a baseline:
1. Rape is bad.
2. Nobody raped was "asking for it".
3. In what is purely MHO, the penalty for a first-time offense should be rather simple:
nothing more or less than what was done to Mel Gibson's character in the last 10 minutes or so of Braveheart (not including a visit by Sophie Marceau).
What follows may offend or annoy some people, so just in case one of them is you, refer to 1-3 above in case you get confused or upset.
What sparked my comments was the contention that "reported rapes are only 10% of the actual total" or words to that effect, oft-repeated in many other contexts.
Which is, quite simply and categorically utter bullshit.
For comparison, please let me know how many fish a fisherman didn't catch.
Follow up with the number of deer a hunter didn't shoot.
Conclude with the total number of home runs all major league baseball players didn't hit, from 1900-2013, inclusive.
That's what the number or percentage of "unreported rapes" totals up to be:
absolutely unknowable with existing technology.
(Unless somebody surveys enough women to get a statistically valid sample of actual rape victims - tens of thousands of women to get say 1200-1500 or so victims - and then determines how many of them reported it or not, and then factors out how many of the non-reporters and/or reporters were lying about the allegations, which brings us to...)
But wait! There's more!
I observed, based on my anecdotal experience, that probably 90% of the allegations of rape that are actually made are bullshit as well.
Note that I'm not arguing that my experience is so comprehensive that it must be that way everywhere at all times. Anything but. What I am saying is that when I started in emergency medicine as a nurse, I assumed someone alleging she'd been raped, had in fact been so mistreated.
And then watched "rape" after "rape" turn out to be:
daughter caught coming in late by parents, throwing BF under bus;
girl caught by BF, throwing BF-du-noir under bus;
girl deciding upon sober reflection that she really didn't like last night's hook-up, so she must have been raped;
GF who'd been dumped by BF despite make-up sex deciding to throw ex-BF under bus;
and numerous other permutations on the theme.
To the point that less than 1/10th of the allegations were sustained for longer than 2 hours, even as we went through all the proper steps and treated it as legit. And time and again, was recanted by the supposed victim, within a few minutes to a half-an-hour's gentle and tender interview by (mostly female, but not entirely so) police officers and detectives detailed to speak with the victim by the local constabulary. As opposed to, say, confessions beaten out of them with rubber hoses. Who, in most instances once the truth came out, politely closed their notebooks, and left to file their reports.
The first instance, frankly, shocked the crap out of me. I wouldn't have imagined it under any circumstance. I'm certainly not happy about it having happened, even now after having done this much digging around over it. The next one or two dozen generally just rise to the level of pique that someone's drama queenery would waste valuable time and resources. And I can't un-see what I've seen firsthand. So if the reality upsets you, twist your panties the other way back until the pain stops.
Now is that universal? I don't know. It's anecdotal, not peer-reviewed research.
It's possible that I saw the only 20 or so rape fakers in the county because I'm lucky like that, and they only came in on my shifts.
Do unreported rapes occur? Certainly.
How many? I have no effing clue.
And neither do you, nor does anyone else, nor can they, ever.
So how many times do women falsely allege rape? Well, going back to the Book of Genesis, I recall at least two examples. Then there was the McMartin Preschool
But how many allegations are false, really?
No clue anywhere on God's green earth.
The Sisterhood certainly doesn't like to talk about that. It undercuts the meme that we live in an oppressively misogynist rape culture. (We know this must be true, because all men have penises. Which is the same reason every one with a gun always robs banks, and everyone with a lighter sets buildings on fire.)
So, TPTB go along with this line of b.s., lest the shrieking and caterwauling begin in earnest, and everybody parrots the "90% of rapes are unreported" line. And does nothing to document how many times allegations are false. They don't even want to know the actual number, and it's politically incorrect to even ask.
Nota bene that I'm not talking about the times when rape is alleged, but there is insufficient evidence, and it devolves to little more than he-said/she-said. I'm sure that happens, as in any crime.
But there is clearly a non-zero number of times where a woman has, and will, decide to play the rape card, when none has occurred, and she and the accused both know it for a metaphysical certainty.
The problem in the McMartin case, for those of you unfamiliar, too young, or so old you've forgotten it, was when the basic and overriding assumption was "Children would never lie." Thus the mere allegation is tantamount to proof of guilt.
Except I've been a child, and been around children, both as a kid, a daycare worker, and an adult medical professional. And the truth we all know is, kids lie like the little shits they (we) are, for any number of reasons, from the practical to the sublime. It is one of the skills no parent ever had to sit down and explain how to pull off to any child since Cain.
It took dozens of similar trials to beat that level of stupidity out of the justice system for the most part. But for rape, it's still there. Didn't anyone see To Kill A Mockingbird, for fuck's sake??
But so what? Women lie about rape sometimes.
So this: Pentagon releases 2011 report on military sexual assault.
In FY2010, there were 3,158 total reports of sexual assault in the military. The DOD estimates that this number only represents 13.5% of total assaults in 2010, making the total number of military rapes and sexual assaults in excess of 19,000 for FY 2010.
Waitadamnminute!
"In excess of 19,000 sexual assaults for FY 2010"??
There were only 203,695 women in the military in 2010. Total. All four services. So that means that virtually 1 in 10 was sexually assaulted that year. It makes one wonder how the military found any time to fight wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, what with all the raping and assaulting that must certainly have been going on. Extrapolated over a 4 year term of service, it means nearly one woman in three is raped or assaulted in the military. (Or some poor woman is getting far more than her share of unwanted attentions.) And the DoD and the Service Women's Action Network said it on the Internet, so it must be true, right?
But waitanotherdamnminute!
According to the US Dept. of Justice and the FBI, the rate of sexual violence against women in 2010 outside the military was 1.1 per thousand completed, and 2.1 per 1000 attempted.
So somehow, the military, despite screening out drug users and criminals, has managed to have a rate of sexual assault nearly 100 times higher than what the national average is in a population that includes literally every miscreant in society. Seems logical. NOT.
Somehow also, the military rapists have not created any such tell-tale spike of sexual violence perpetrated against the women outside the military, at dozens of towns outside bases, posts, airfield, and navy ports. (Unless we want to just go ahead and assume that 100% of those rapes aren't reported either. Stop me when this level of "science" approaches the level of arguments for anthropogenic global warming.) Then again, if not for the fact that I've been in the military, we could also think this must be because the women in the military are so much more attractive than their civilian counterparts.
Service Women's Action Network further decries the fact that the military only took 529 of those 3,158 sexual assault reports to trial at courts-martial. Ignoring the number that may have been dealt with by non-judicial punishment, let's look at that a little deeper.
Possibility A)
The military is peopled by thousands of rapists, even serial rapists, such that they would basically have to be recruiting from the sexual offenders wing at every state prison just to maintain such a steady supply, and senior leadership thinks that much rape is a good thing for order and discipline, otherwise they'd have prosecuted all 3,158 allegations, and fostered an atmosphere where the other 16,000 or so victims wouldn't hesitate to come forward.
Possibility B)
A vast majority of the assumed (based on zero facts and a boatload of biases) 16,000 imaginary assaults never happened, and of the 3,158 allegations, nearly 5 out of 6, or 83%, were unsubstantiated, unprovable, or completely fabricated hogwash (which they still investigated fully anyway, wherever possible). And 529 cases among 203,695 women in the military comes a lot closer to the rate of sexual assault in the population at large (2.6 per thousand, rather than SWAN/DoDs farcical rate of over 93 per thousand). Color me shocked.
I'ma go with "B".
I'm trying to remember where I might have heard a number close to 83% referring to baseless claims of rape, but the source eludes me at the moment. But at least, in the military, they track the claims as well as the prosecutions. Funny where their correlation ends up, i'n'it?
I repeat, Rape is bad.
It's not trivial, and I'm sure cases go unreported. But there's a significant number of known cases where the charge is b.s. and the official policy of TPTB, inside the military or out, that "Better ten men arrested falsely than that one rape go unimagined" is morally wrong, civically unhealthy, and utterly jackassical.
And the Sisterhood needs to own up to what they know for real, before they whip out their Ouija boards to tells us what they imagine, whatever the pretense or pretext.
You can thus guess my greater shocked surprise when there wasn't an unending stream of battered women coming to the ER on Superbowl Sunday, a sad parade of children with fingers blown off and eyes gouged out by fireworks every New Year's Eve or Fourth of July, nor a conga-line of folks shot by the family gun. Ever, at any point in time.
But the number of people SOCMOBing* at 3AM when randomly attacked by Sumdood,** and the number of jail inmates who nightly fall out of their bunks continues with a predictably tedious monotony.
*Standing On Corner, Minding Own Business
** With a hat tip to Ambulance Driver, who coined the name, Sumdood is a criminal mastermind and the most legendary perpetrator to never end up on the FBI's Most Wanted List, despite having beaten the stuffing out of tens of thousands of upright citizens at 3AM, and planting literally trash dumpsters full of heroin, cocaine, crack, meth, pot, pills, and assorted weaponry in the homes, cars, and pockets of otherwise blameless individuals.
To wit:
"Ah wuz jes' standing on the corner, minding m'own business, when Sumdood jumped out, whacked me with a crowbar, and shoved that stolen gun and that crack into my sock ,Officer, Swear to Jesus!"
Serendipity:
Look who else has recently opined on a related part of the topic, and noted that the math doesn't add up -
George Will
2018 UPDATES:
Related tag-along thoughts on a parallel track: Miguel @ Gun Free Zone.
Then this video (h/t IOTW) by Michelle Malkin:
16 comments:
Hey Aesop;;
I remember American Mercenary, his blog was on my blogroll and I enjoyed his postings....it was a shame when he had to shut down. Well anyway, this nonsense with Kavanaugh will bite the left in the butt, but not until a lot of people are hurt in the process. Being able to prove an accusation is a cornerstone of our justice system. If we don't have that then we have the "Salem witch trials"..Oh wait....
I'm a 62 year old grandma, mother of 4 daughters (2 mine and 2 step-daughters) and I agree with you 100%. Women lie.
Aesop, I was both an MP in the Army and a Nurse and 110% and unequivocally agree with your premise. I would even go as far as saying 98% of rape allegations were total BS. It got to be about 5 minutes into an interview you could tell the accuser was fabricating and evidence wasn't lining up.
Also, it was frustrating that once it was determined that a rape allegation was false we could not cite or arrest them for making a False Police Report. They got a puss pass, if you or I had done that, you can be sure the handcuffs would have come out.
Well, there currently is a major scandal involving the head Navy lawyer, some Vice-Admiral SumDood, who literally pressured a courts-martial to convict a highly decorated SEAL under less provable evidence than has been brought against Kavanaugh. Really.
My experiences with the whole false-rape thing was watching women use it as a tool to advance in their jobs, or to screw others over for a litany of vindictive and petty reasons, like at least 3 cases I know were because the accuser didn't like that the accused and his lady were in a contented, good relationship and he wouldn't notice or pay attention to the accuser.
Look how many Frat houses have been shut down over false sexual accusations. It's a whole hella lot of them.
Yes. Women are raped. Yes. Women don't report rapes, yes, it does happen. But the woman who doesn't report a rape also doesn't go to the ER, or to doctors, or to police or to anyone, keeping it a secret shame. I have seen that type of rape response before.
But... Women who falsely accuse should be charged at the same level as the complaint they are saying occurred. Because the only way to stop false accusations is to punish the falsely accused.
Once the fake rape victims stop fake rape victiming, then we can get around to seeing what the actual statistics are.
Because the only way to stop false accusations is to punish the falsely accused.
I'm guessing you meant "punish the false accusers" there, otherwise the sentence doesn't make any sense.
I saw a false rape accusation go down in my first Navy command.
Accused: My room mate.
Accuser: Worked in my office
What likely happened: Accuser hooked up with accused on Superbowl Sunday 1995, and afterwards thought, "Ew, I let that guy fsck me...."
My unit had a female SNCOIC at the time, and rumor had it that it was she who pushed the accused into filing charges.
Anyway, after the accused changed her story for the third time, the investigation was dropped.
I know false rape accusations happen, I saw it personally.
Should read "...pushed the accuser into filing charges."
Your logic is impeccable. You have clearly made the case that false allegations of rape DO occur and occur often enough to be a real problem in sorting out fact from fiction. The problem however is that roughly HALF of the US population is IMMUNE to facts, logic or rational thought. Essentially you are either 'preaching to the choir' or wasting your time and effort because those who refuse to believe or listen to your train of thought make their decisions and base their beliefs on emotions and agenda. In short....America is schizophrenic and in dire need of a 'divorce'. And it looks like we're going to get one in some fashion with the only question being how much it costs and what the body count will be. And this issue is just ONE of many where one side sees things factually and the other is NOT INTERESTED in facts....just outcome. And to the left the ENDS justify the means...ANY MEANS.
Divorce is not an option:
you're chained together at the neck;
there's no way to divide the goods;
and no court with jurisdiction to enforce the judgment.
That leaves ongoing spousal abuse, homicide, or exile the only remaining choices.
Choose carefully.
A few years back this came up on Weaponsman, and someone made the astute observation that in order to achieve numbers like that in the military you would have to make Rape a sign off item which needed to be completed prior to any PCS.
True, but the Sisterhood never lets little niggling details like facts or reality get in the way of a good narrative.
My wife asked the other day, in all honesty, "Why would she lie?" Now understand, I love my wife with all my heart, and she's one of the nicest and smartest women I've ever known. She can be a little....naive sometimes (like this time). I think her problem is assuming that people need a REASON to lie.
The knee-jerk reaction is to lie. You don't have to TEACH children to lie (in fact some need to be punished repeatedly to make them STOP lying).
So someone had just enough wine to lower her inhibitions and hooked up with some guy she met. Waking up the next morning with throbbing head and genitals, but recalling full well what happened and that she was a willing, even enthusiastic participant, decides upon sober reflection in the harsh light of day that she's "Not that kind of girl" so therefore he must've raped her. Obviously she slipped something into her drink, but just in case let's wait a couple weeks (months, years) before making any accusation, so any evidence of drugs, or for that matter DNA, is long gone. And of course as a victim she gets all the benefit of the doubt.
Now let's add some "reasons". Like he has the job you want, and he's not going anywhere, but allegations can get him fired, then you can get his job. Or you got caught by your boyfriend, so you cry "rape" instead of admitting you cheated on him. Or he's politically opposed to your viewpoint and you'll do anything to keep him off the Supreme Court. Or it's Thursday.
Mark D
Why...?
You mean, besides her lifelong frothing moonbat devotion to the SJW pussyhat movement, and her kneejerk hatred of anything with an (R) after it?
That, just maybe...?
So, is she filtering this exclusively through CNN, or does the rest of the news not work there?
Aesop: She was watching Kavanaugh being questioned. She also seemed to think the D's were asking actual questions rather than grandstanding, and she noted that K didn't actually answer some questions with yes or no. I think where my wife gets wrapped around the axle with things like this is that SHE'S a nice person and presumes other people are as well. Since she would never lie about such a thing under any circumstances, it's incomprehensible to her that someone else would. Of course believing other people are as nice as you are can get you into a whole boatload of trouble, which is where I sometimes need to step in.
My wife believes SOMEONE did what she described, but isn't convinced it was Kavanaugh who did so. She doesn't follow politics as closely as I do, and doesn't seem to have internalized two things: 1) The way you can tell a politician is lying is his lips are moving and 2) There are lots of good politicians, but you have to dig them up to shake hands with them.
Mark D
In my eight years in the Army, including time in Korea, Germany and Afghanistan, I know of one single time that a female soldier alleged that someone had sexually assaulted her. She was a Specialist and he was a Warrant Officer. He lost rank and his wife initiated a divorce, and that was just during the investigation. Then the Specialist had an attack of conscience, or something, and admitted that she had pursued the WO and he turned her down. That was it. That was the "assault". He refused to let her come to his house and have sex. What happened to her? She got demoted one tank to PFC and got moved to work in the office where shitbag soldiers were sent to work pushing papers for the rest of their tour.
That was it. That was the extent of the "sexual assault" drama that I saw in eight years. One female trying to ruin a good Warrant's career and marriage, and nearly succeeding. He fixed his marriage but his service was irreparably damaged because they don't usually give that stuff back once it's taken.
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