Sunday, August 11, 2019

Beware The Wrath Of Patient Men



Dear Leftards:

You irrepressible commie halfwits think you've got the cards. You're the idiot talking tough with the shotgun in your hand, and you're about to get comeuppance. In Louis L'Amour's memorable phrase, you're about to have your meathouse torn down. With a mere couple of nutbags (mainly your own nutbags, nota bene) doing what nutbags do, you imagine you've got enough pull now to leverage your way into more asinine abridgments of the Constitution.

You haven't, you won't, and you really, really need to knock it off.
I remind you of this while you've got your limbs and most of your teeth all still attached.

We're really not kidding.
You've had all the slices of our cake you're ever getting.

Step. AWAY. From the table.
STFU, keep your hands in plain sight, and walk away, and you might live through this.

And for the cynical timid souls on the other side suffering from Stockholm Syndrome and normalcy bias, desist.
Re-think.

Heller and McDonald, and the appellate decisions that set that table, are now settled black-letter law, and everyone who cares knows that. In their bones.

You cannot unring that bell.

And ammo is as much a part of "arms" in the 2nd A. as the guns themselves, so that dog won't hunt either.

People in CA watched one lone lunatic, Dorner, tie this state up from Oregon to Mexico, for a week...for one rogue ex-cop.
The CHP wasn't writing any tickets, because every cruiser was sitting on a freeway onramp, looking for him to show up. The paper-tiger LAPD was shooting at anything that moved, they were so fearful of the wrath of just one guy, and not a very bright one at that. (Which made it a fair fight, in the end.)

So the limits of your actual power are now common knowledge, even in the bluest states.

A lot of people thought we'd be facing ramped up anti-gun legislation long before now, because Shrillary and the Clinton Family Crime Syndicate looked like a shoe-in...until she wasn't.

And serious people were ready, then, to open the ball you're itching for now.

If TPTB were to decide they could set the last vestiges of the Constitution on fire, there's more than a few that would take it upon themselves as a point of honor, not to wait cowering inside their homes, but to go out hunting OPFOR, 24/7/365. And they'd get more than one scalp apiece.

Two lunkhead "snipers" in D.C. tied the District up for a month, and none of their shots over 100 yards. What do you suppose will happen when the people involved can hit their targets at 600 yards all the live long day?

Twenty such would turn this country on its head.

A hundred would mean guerrilla war and martial law.

A thousand such, and it's a war that Team Oppression will never win.
(Afghanistan ring a bell? Vietnam? Stop me if you've heard this one...)

And the conservative odds are that once it started, it wouldn't stay twenty, a hundred, or a thousand.

It would be a million.

Maybe several.

We barely have that many full-time military troops in the Army and Marines combined, right now, and were those troops to join in, they'd be attrited to nothing in a season or two, at the outside. And if they ever opened fire on anyone, they'd just swell the ranks of the insurgency a thousandfold, with every volley.
Not to mention a non-zero number who would switch sides at the first opportunity.
The military you think you'll use wouldn't be a force, it would be a resupply point.

Public officials would be in hiding.

And at that point, government ceases to function, or exist, in any real sense.
Once you have open warfare, you don't have any America to save any more.

All you Leftards have is B.S. and bluster, and that never even won a playground fight, let alone a shooting war.

And most of the people you'd be facing have seen the elephant already, and been in shooting wars, real ones,  not Antifa airsoft cosplay slapfights, nor the likes of Pete Williams and Shrillary remembering that time they parachuted into combat on a flying unicorn under sniper fire with the 82nd Airborne.

They already know what they're doing, they have their logistics on their closet shelf, and they'll take Leviathan apart with millions of bites, the same way ants eat an elephant.

This is not a zipper you ought to pull, but if you do, what falls on you after is going to be so awesomely terrible that you'll stare in wonderment, right up until it smacks the ever-loving shit right out of your heads, and kills you with as much compassion as a bulldozer running over maggots.

All it needs is a single match, and the your side is flicking lighters in a room full of gasoline and gunpowder.

Now is not the time to bet on things going like they always went.
It's not headed that way, and the physics of what will ensue guarantee the pieces won't even come back after the explosions in the same time zone.

In short, minions of Leftardia and Stupidia, you have blundered into a minefield, on a pogo stick.
Stop what you're doing, tiptoe out, and pray to whatever deity you think appropriate that you get away with your skins.

Because if you insist on pushing your revolution, you're going to get the war of which you cannot grasp, and the results of which you cannot even conjure in your wildest fever-swamp nightmares.

And your opponents, who've been stacking in supplies and loading magazines, are shifting from backing away, and hoping the fight you long for doesn't come, and instead coming to a feeling of thinking it's about time to roll up their sleeves, and end you.

Not your party.
Not your progressive communist utopia.
You.
For all values of that word.

Every goddamned traitorous last one of you. Followed by your spouses, your children, your pets, your semi-domesticated illegal alien hordes, your schemes, your putrescent institutions, your metastasizing socialist programs, and every festering vestige of pustulence you've spewed onto a country you do not understand, didn't build, and over which you and yours will never rule.

Your pendulum is out of gas (and had you the wit, you might have noticed that in 2016, and gone home to pout quietly until you could function in polite society), and the pushback if you dare it, is going to be measured in megadeaths, if not actually megatons. Stalin, Mao, Fidel, and Pol Pot all had it your way. Look for those scales to be balanced, at your expense, in the upcoming sportiness you really do not want, and cannot comprehend.

And if the Deplorables you misunderestimated ever set out to do that, in earnest, people will talk about you and your fate for millennia, the way they talk about Carthage after the Third Punic War now.

You are running out of chances, and your continued efforts in the service of igniting that fuse are rapidly transitioning, in saner minds, from being a bug in the system, to being a feature of it, and a consummation devoutly to be wished.

Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
But we aren't in a democracy, and never have been. A fact of which your Common Core miseducation has left you blissfully clueless.
We are and always have been a constitutional republic, which notes that the sheep hereabouts may be armed, lest the wolves forget the limits of their franchise.

And lest you misunderstand that reality, what's going on the menu if you continue to agitate beyond your bounds, is you.


187 comments:

BladeRunner1066 said...

Yeah, great essay. How's that working out in California, the land of the democrat supermajority?

Anonymous said...

Cali is where it will start, dumas!

Tom762

Dave said...

With apologizes to Rudyard Kipling

WRATH OF THE AWAKENED GUN OWNER

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Gun Owner began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy — willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Gun Owner began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Gun Owner began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Gun Owner began to hate.

It was not suddenly bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Gun Owner began to hate.

Anonymous said...

This a supply and demand problem. Efforts to curb demand artificially will never work. Therefore, hit the supply. Shut the gun companies down. Let's get some perp walks going for the executives for their role in promoting gun violence in America and hang them out to dry for all other gun executives to see. Go full Big Tobacco on their asses. Then gun shops across America will have to switch to all Used and Refurbished. Then those will run out as we have greedily Hoover them up because our addiction will never be sated. Then the only sellers left will be black market types. And guess what those guns would be? That's right, illegal! Then the authorities can start rounding guns up like they should have been the whole fucking time.

ChuckInBama said...

The only problem with drying up the domestic gun supply, is that the ILLEGAL guns coming in from foreign sources won't be your garden-variety sporting arms at the local gun shop. No sir, they will be the full blown weapons of war you libturds fear the most; the fully automatic versions that will make the task of ending the war you want that much quicker. And lets not forget the grenades and rocket launchers you all think are dealt at gun shows.
I don't know which "authorities" you think will "start rounding up guns". Apparently, your reading comprehension skills are seriously non-existent, or else you just don't have the skills for reading anything longer than a meme. If you are thinking of the same authorities that can't stop illegal immigrants, just do the math and calculate how many illegal full auto battle rifles can fit in a semi, versus how many illegal immigrants.
So, go ahead, Skippy. Try the Tobacco Company gambit with guns. That just may be the spark we're waiting for.
Sweet Dreams, Princess....

Aesop said...

@BladeRunner1066,

Were you under the misimpression that guns are somehow illegal here in Califrutopia?

At last look, the 10 rd. mag ban here was ruled moot by the 9th Circus.
Sacramento's heads exploded, along With Sen. Fineswine and Senator Kneepads.
Evidently, someone* went and all but balanced the scales on the 9th Circus, and it seems to getting harder and harder to ban things unconstitutionally here, and in every other state in that court's jurisdiction.



*(See if you can figure out who went and appointed a slate of conservative federal judges, and is within 1 vote of balancing that court, and 2 lifetime appointments away from flipping it to a conservative majority for the next 20 years. MAGA, baby.)

Anonymous said...

Anon, you're an idiot. Where are any facts to support your delusions?

Reltney McFee said...

Dear Anon 5:39:

Mighty froggy, there, with other people's sons, husbands,brothers.

Unless, YOU are fixing to lead a stack?

Didn't think so.

Ref "Deh Athoriteez", homeboy, in my county, the primary CPL instructor is a sheriff department deputy.

Unlikely to happen. As in Bush 43, third term, unlikely to happen.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Huh. This is actually pretty well thought out. No one's guns get taken away, and the issue gets addressed in the long run. Plus, who wouldn't want to see some fatcat billionaires burn? The illegal gun running will become a problem, but it's not private property so the government won't be inclined to use kid gloves like they do with gun owners. Not bad, Anon. Are you am economist or something?

Ominous Cowherd said...

Aesop, the only problem is that conservatards have been gravely warning the Left that they aren't going to like the consequences for three generations now, and the Left has always liked the consequences, because the conservatards have always shielded the Left from the worst of their stupidity.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying I don't think the Left believes the warnings anymore.

Anonymous said...

I seem to remember two guys named Muhammed and Melvo had everyone peeing in their boots and at a loss of what to do about it. Multiply that.
Also I know a number of guys that can manufacture their own.
Think those will be semi-auto?

Anonymous said...

Leftists will start to believe when the brains of the guy next to them, attacking someone perceived to be a conservative, are splattered all over the street.

Sadly, that realization will not become fully seated, before their own brains are provided ample daylight and fresh air.

No one is looking forward to this, but having a closet full of protection, makes me sleep better at night.

Anonymous said...

The same authorities that everyone is always saying are going to take their guns, of course

Anonymous said...

@TPHM
Military intelligence actually.

Anonymous said...

How much time you got?

Anonymous said...

That's why they won't ask county sheriffs. You think they don't know about Posse Comitatus? Or how every militia this side of the Mississippi subscribes to it despite the fact that it is incorrect?

-Mighty Frog

Anonymous said...

Dear Conservitors,

No. Enough. You had your day in the Sun. The growing majority of Conservatives in this country can't abide your firearm fantasies anymore. It's over. It's about time we all took responsibility for what we've been promoting these last few decades. The blood is not on the hands of lone wolves and crazies anymore, especially since we did away with mental care facilities in the first place (see Reagan). The blood is on our hands too and this God damn deflecting that goes on every single God damn time a mass event happens is monstrous and unAmerican. People are dead. Families are shattered. Sons, Husbands and Brothers are taken from this Earth en masse. The reason can't be denied any longer. Grow up. Understand who you're sacrificing so that you can play pretend. The Second Amendment was never about personal property or even about hiding a self destruct button in the founding documents in case this Republic thing didn't work out. It was about our right as human beings to defend this land we call home. No amount of child death is worth twisting the words of the Founding Fathers for these weapons of war that we treat like toys. Like a new car stereo, now with Bluetooth. Build communities, stand up for what you believe in and always hold the government accountable, but drop the gun shaped pacifiers out of your mouths. You've out grown them.



Sincerely,

Real Conservatives

Jim Scrummy said...

Anon 5:39

Nice try at trolling, but, commies even suck at trolling. Commies is so stupid.

Muh TaBacCi ComPanIes ExeCutIvEs pERp WalK. Muh GonnA GeT tHem GuN CoMpAnies ExecUtives. Muh muh muh.

Good LuCk wiTh yOur muH ConfiScaTion of 600+ MiLlion gUns. Muh.

Unknown said...

They are betting on legacy America being too lazy to get off their ass.

That, I think, is the question no one knows the answer to.

The left has an unbroken record of winning for more than a hundred years, from the 16th Amendment onwards, and given that track record, they have some justification in thinking they can continue their ever leftward march towards the glorious implementation of socialism.

The next few years will be the indicator, I think. Once Texas goes blue, the national fight is all but over, I think.

The Gray Man said...

When do we get to throw that punch? It’s long overdue and I’m starting t think we’ve simply lost the nerve.

The Gray Man said...

It’s always the next few years.

The Gray Man said...

Kill yourself.

Anonymous said...

What are you, four? Go back to preschool. The adults are talking.

-Boat Man

Anonymous said...

Anon,

As long as they don't own a gun making factory, I think we can put that in the win column.

T-Rav said...

Wow, lots of trolls out tonight.

Anonymous said...

I think some people are thinking of grenades at 5 paces.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

It's practically raining trolls. This must be a sore subject for 'em

Anonymous said...

We can't ban guns. They're so popular!

Anonymous said...

Half of America has PTSD (motorcycle backfire in Times Square causes shooting scare) the other half has Stockholm Syndrome (gun sales go up after Mass shootings)

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Holy Toledo. How did this never cross my mind? 2A was never about private property at all! I need to reflect on this more before I form an opinion on it, but damn. This blew the lid wide open for me!

A.B. Prosper said...

The only actual troll her is at 7:50.

Some of us are sceptical of all the we're gonna get mad blather as we've heard it since the 90's if not earlier . There is a good reason for cynicism since huge chunks of the US US was turned into something between Gomorrah and Mexico while Conservatives yawned and watched sportsball.

As to Gray Man's "when? " question , why haven't you ? Don't answer as it's a rhetorical question . For your answer multiply that by everyone else.

My take is the Right other than "muh guns" and abortion doesn't want much of anything enough to do anything radical like kill or die for it. They don't believe enough to sacrifice for it and so they won't.

The Right has no hunger for victory and out there in realityland , leave me alone is a tantrum and "The Constitution." is Ghost Dancing

When not if the Left brings in 100 million Africans or so and dumps them in your town you are long and short fucked and trust me they will. The reason is simple. They hunger to win and you don't .

Worse you are so fixated on Neo Liberalism and the Liberty ethos that you don't see the guys pulling the strings . The disease vector are groups like Lutheran and Catholic immigration services and the Chamber of Commerce/Cheap Labor crowd. The rest is a far more manageable threat

McChuck said...

The Constitution is dead. Has been since 1933.

The best thing that can happen here now is Civil War 2.0. The sooner, the better.

There are 200 million whites in America. Of these, 30% consider themselves to be Leftists. That leaves 140 million people potentially on our side. Against probably 200 million opponents.

We can still win this, if we hang together. Otherwise, we shall all certainly hang separately.

Anonymous said...

"The paper-tiger LAPD was shooting at anything that moved, they were so fearful of the wrath of just one guy, and not a very bright one at that. (Which made it a fair fight, in the end.)"

Yep, those ladies exchanging newspapers in the machine sure got a free truck for the shot up unit they were driving. Lucky to be alive.

Anonymous said...

From the trolling ( however asinine) looks like you hit a nerve brother! And for all you "well, you haven't done anything yet, neener, neener, neener" you like the leftards are mistaking restraint for apathy.
Those of us who understand what will happen when the whistle blows will wait as long as we can - and then it will be more horrific than you dullards can imagine. Fortunately for you your dismay will be as short-lived as you will be.
Boat Guy

lineman said...

You have to wonder where these articles are being linked too because we are picking up some static...They think they will be untouched in the coming Melee... Problem is for them no one will be untouched and those that think only the government should have weapons will be surprised when they are dragged off to the camps...Sad That...

SwampWoman said...

Hello there. I've been content to be a reader/lurker until now. I would like to second the anonymous comment above about manufacturing guns. Anybody with a moderately-equipped machine shop can be a gun manufacturer. The gun manufacturing industry has to abide by government regulations. I do not have a machine shop but I know people that do. I have made inquiries just for my own information. I can buy a weapon custom made for me with any features I want for a price.

I note that killing people is illegal. However, the homicide clearance rate for the big cities is abysmally low. The murderers that are caught have been jailed multiple times previously for felonies and have illegally-acquired weapons. The mass murderers that are not religious terrorists had mental health issues. The Democrats want to disarm the law-abiding and no action whatsoever is being taken about the crazy people running around loose.

The second amendment is in my best interests. I will not comply with any of the proposed controls.





Wes said...

It's all coming to a head

https://ncrenegade.com/editorial/honor/

Anonymous said...

It would take a fool of the highest order to post their plans, or their list, on the internet. Are OPSEC and PERSEC just acronyms or do they mean something to you. Sweep in front of your own door and the world winds up as clean as anyone could wish.

Don't ask what other people are doing. Decide what you will do.

JustSomeGuy

Anonymous said...

I truly think they want to start CW3 (CW2: 1861-65, unsuccessful). They have started believing their own propaganda, and think it will be illiterate Deplorables in overalls vs. the USMC. They should watch what they wish for - they just might get it.
_revjen45

Aesop said...

Some regular readers have noted, and/or become concerned, about the sudden spike in troll traffic.

Relax, boys and girls.
This isn't the WRSA anything-goes free-for-all; the quickest way to see a screed removed is to forget that.

And if we're suddenly taking a lot more flak lately, it can only mean we're over the target.

Crybabies losing their tiny minds and monkeys flinging their poo aren't going to convince anybody, but they will out themselves.
And the front page posting guidelines remain in full effect.

Some trolls hereabouts will be used as target practice, some as overqualified cannon fodder, and most will simply disappear.

Glenda T Goode said...

The only PTSD America as a whole has is from the media and not due to any events in society. Point to fact, if gun violence was really causing a nationwide problem why is it we do not hear about deaths in Chicago and other major cities due to gun violence????? These are the massacres we never hear about because they most generally have 'preferred minorities as shooters. Additionally, we don't hear about them because they are almost exclusively liberal bastions of gun control policies that actually do not work.

The one aspect I find very interesting regarding the original post is that we have turned full circle from 1970.

The Kent state massacre occurred in 1970 and initiated a national negative reaction against the military that lasted for at least 20 years. The irony is that now the 'victims' of the Kent State shootings are now the ones who threaten to send the military after us.

The tables have turned and it seems that the left controls who and where force will be used to confiscate guns. However, those of us who are facing the government and considering any act to disarm us as a breach of our rights are far better prepared to resist the actions against us than the left was in the 60's against government.

Just because you have the leash to a big dog (federal government) does not mean the dog will obey your commands. The fact is that the 'Legacy Americans' are a far more ideological group than any liberal activists could dream of being. Our unity arises from our values and belief in freedom and not in conformance to liberal dictates and re-definition of 'normal'. I see freedom worth fighting for. I benefit directly and personally by my freedom. I live and act and pursue my own interests without interference or restriction.

There is no way on earth that left's advocacy for tolerance of varying ideas and practices can offer anything comparable other than personal satisfaction.

Freedom lovers will win.

T-Rav said...

I've been skeptical of Aesop's arguments on this issue before, which, as I've said, is possibly a function of my not being active in the gun community, as opposed to others around these parts.

However, I am coming around to believing it, chiefly because so many people are talking as though they are prepared to take action if necessary. Whether they are or not, that kind of rhetoric sinks in after a while and becomes self-reinforcing.

If this gun-grabbing campaign goes on long enough, I suspect a critical mass of people will become accustomed to seeing it as the Enemy. And that's when I think Aesop's scenario will happen.

beau said...

removing firearms from citizens who are not criminals AND wanting govts, which killed HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS in the last century, to have weapons bespeaks of, at minimum, absolute ignorance, but more likely accepting, without thought, the machinations of those who would rule, as opposed to governing us.

Those who beat their weapons into plowshares will plow for those who don't.
Thomas Jefferson

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

@Boat Man
That kind of condescending talk isn't appreciated round here. Act like an adult first.

June J said...

YTD Homicides by shooting in two large cities with strict gun control:
Baltimore: 190
Chicago: 285

The left's only answer: take guns away from law abiding citizens

Anonymous said...

We have laws against murder....still have killings.
We have laws against drunk driving...still have drunk drivers.
We have laws against prostitution...still have the sex trade.
We have declared war on poverty...still have poverty.
We have laws against child abuse...still have child abuse.
Etc., etc., wash, rinse, and repeat.

Laws and government do not change human behavior and gun laws will not accomplish anything either, except to prevent honest, decent, hardworking folks (that naively believe their government will protect them) from having the ability to defend themselves.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

You're right about Chicago's invisible massacres, but for the wrong reason, I think. Minority killings tend to be overlooked. At least until recently. I'm thinking of the Tulsa Riots in particular when Black Wall Street was torched.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Gun control doesn't work if they drive over to Indiana and get them there. Nobody seems to grasp this and I'm starting to wonder why.

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:31 is right! No laws! Anarchy!

Johnnywad said...

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Johnnywad said...

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TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Lineman,

All these trolls are getting on my nerves and mucking up the airwaves. Moscow, ID. You, me, burgers and brew. Go Vandals!

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Democrats are barking up the wrong tree with disarming Joe Average and José Average, but getting guns off the streets is a worthwhile endeavor in my book.

A.B. Prosper said...

TPHM, disarming street street guys requires disarming you and me. No other way.

In any case the rest of us should not have to pay any price for the 13/50 crowd and a failed mental health system. besides they share the same human right to self defense as the rest of us and have more need. if they can't be trusted to behave correctly lock them up or shoot them if you roll that way

Old NFO said...

The left thinks 'violence' is a rheostat they can dial to whatever they want, then back it down. What they don't understand is the silent majority has an off/on switch, and hands are sitting on that switch now...

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

"That mass shooting was because of mental health issues."
Let's try and address it.
"Mental health issues aren't my problem."

You can't have it both ways. "I am not my brother's keeper" didn't work for Cain and it sure ain't working for us. This is the Tragedy of the Commons writ large. Didn't happen here, don't care. Get off my lawn. No worries, Hakuna Matata and all that. Carry on.

Something my pastor told me a long time ago that's stuck with me ever since was that when you turn on the TV news, what you're seeing is the future, 20 years from now. All that gangster rap, drugs and violence would be visited upon us in due time. Sure enough, the music and the drugs came to our small town. It's only a matter time before the violence washes over us as well. Mass shootings are happening every where now and it won't be long before it reaches our school, our parks, our churches. That's what's been weighing down my thoughts for months now and the back to back El Paso/Dayton double feature was one event too many for me. I'm at my wit's end with this gun business. I don't know what to do anymore. My friends, my family, they won't be safe from the wave heading right for us. I don't know what to do.

Anonymous said...

How about calm the fuck down TiredPoorHungryMAsses? Hakuna Matata Motherfucker.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

The quality of commenters here has really gone down recently...

10mm AUTO said...

Well, Trolls Live, and they have already defeated themselves. Just listen to their screeching!

They are not going to get their hands dirty in any Civil War. Liberals are going to "order" someone else to "gather up the guns", like the police. Someone else to deal with the parent who will see their madness and quietly do something about it. Some one else, while they sip their double tall soy latte and go to their "protest". They are tomorrows informers. When the cost of their lifestyle goes too high, they will blame others.

Conservitives/WhiteNationalists/Religious people know the TERRIBLE COST of a Civil War, they are willing to do what it takes to win such. That is why Sheriffs around the Country are stating that they will never enforce laws made to counter the Constitution. When Congress goes full confiscation, well that will be just too bad.

Harold Covington, the author of "Freedoms Sons" said that the war starts because "Child Protective Services" (otherwise known as "It takes a Village") move in to seize a family of children because they are teaching their children the Old Religion. The family retaliates (in a modern day scene reminiscent of the scene in "Patriot" where the father goes to get his son back from the British.) and this forms the core of the resistance.

We are way beyond that now, with Judges saying that boys as young as 8 can be forced to have injections that delay puberty or turn them into girls, against the parents wishes. The long terms effects are horrific, including the death of the entire family line because such a person is sterile. Don't think a father will take up the gun because his son is being shot up with hormonal drugs, chemically castrated and mind controlled by the Left?

Sadly, it has really come to this.

Anonymous said...

Took the words out of my mouth Aesop

My addition:

by MSG Paul Howe, Tier 1 special forces, trainer of over 20K SWAT teams - regarding coming for the guns....


http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/published/2nd_amen.pdf


Lots of quality reading:

http://www.combatshootingandtactics.com/published.htm

Rollory said...

AB Prosper is correct.

I don't wonder "when", because I know why I haven't.

But by the same token I know Aesop isn't either. And why posts like this OP are empty bluster.


@10mm AUTO

"Conservitives/WhiteNationalists/Religious people know the TERRIBLE COST of a Civil War, they are willing to do what it takes to win such."

What's your evidence for that?

I see a lot of evidence that the right wing likes talking a lot and issuing endlessly repeating warnings that are never backed up.

It's like raising a kid. The kid learns that you're all talk, and then they move on to vivisecting the neighborhood cats and sucker punching toddlers. That's what posts like Aesop's OP accomplish - the left knows that as long as there's bluster there'll be no action, and they can just keep progressing right along. Aesop's encouraging them, even if he doesn't want to admit it.

Also I see you refer to Harold Covington. First, the dude was beta cuck to the max, as well as being an inveterate liar - an entertaining podcast host, yes, with good advice about dealing with feds, but a proven and systematic liar. Second, no white Christian family is going to go to war with CPS to protect their kids and their religion. Muslim, maybe. That's why the authorities leave Muslims alone. But Christians sell out their purported religious principles all the livelong day, all across this land.

"Don't think a father will take up the gun because his son is being shot up with hormonal drugs, chemically castrated and mind controlled by the Left?"

That's right. I don't. Because it hasn't happened yet. And now that the first few test cases have gotten past, the precedent has been set, and the rest will be easier. If/when somebody finally DOES snap they'll be treated as the "real" mental case - "what's the big deal? we've been doing this to kids for a while now, nobody else objected". I want to be wrong about that but the pattern of Progress so far says I'm not.

Mike_C said...

>The quality of commenters here has really gone down recently...

Well, that's ONE thing you and I can agree on.

Aesop said...

@Rollory

You're being foolish, and speaking like a fool, if you believe that twaddle.

The Leftards are storing up treasure, and they're going to redeem it if they just keep on pushing.
Their efforts come from the same stock of fool's wisdom whereof you speak.

Re-think.

I have linked numerous times to the Iraqi militia asstards who kept fucking with that IED, until they got their wish, and five of them were rendered to molecules in a split second, after a good half minute of "So far, so good".
That's what happens when you cross Dunning-Kruger with nitrocellulose products.

I can post Christopher Walken's Lion Speech another dozen times.
The mere act of repetition doesn't render something absolutely true to be less true. Only fools think that.

You can see it in action when you consider the example of Roy Horn.
Sick your head in a tiger's mouth often enough, and eventually, the obvious reality is going to bite you.
In some cases, literally.
IT'S A FUCKING TIGER.

Leftist idiots (but I repeat myself) think everybody's law-abiding characteristics will rule perpetually, and they can just be loaded into boxcars in an orderly fashion, because that worked before once or twice.

As every mutual fund managers is bound by law to tell you up front,
past behavior is no guarantee of future performance.
People who think humans are some deterministic toy, to be manipulated, have little practical experience of the actual animal.
And they're writing a check with their mouths they expect other littler people will cash.

That's been tried before here too.
So get in your Time Machine, and instead of going into the future with it, roll the dial back to Boston, and ask the lobster-backed squaddies of the 5th Regiment of Foot of the Royal Northumberland Fusiliers how gun grabbing worked out for them.

Then roll forward a couple of centuries, and ask the survivors from the BATFE genius raid at Waco how their morning stroll worked out on the day.

The minions of government, the incompetent fucks who cannot tie their shoes 4 days out of 5 without adult supervision, will be the same ones you imagine will attempt any gun-grabbing. The same cops who shoot innocent bystanders in small droves. Who show up drunk for work and rape cute ladies pulled over for tickets.
(cont.)

Aesop said...

(cont.)

So, you tell me, what happens when Joe Average decides it's safer and easier to start thinning that herd proactively, instead of waiting for the morning they're stacked up on his porch?

How long does the current policing model work when even a small minority of formerly solid citizens decides police raids are the problem, and not the solution, and starts putting them on their to-do lists?
Because they can.

I give the police a day or two, then they disappear like fog on a summer noon.
Shakespeare's Dogberry was an archtype for a reason.

Send in the military?
The one that can't figure out which bathrooms to use, can't keep a ship from rusting, can't fly a plane, conn a ship, or build an aircraft carrier that launches planes? The one marching their male officer candidates around in red high heels?
Sh'yeah, okay.
Send 'em.
Tell them I wear size 9 boots, and I could use a few new pairs.
Plus all the other goodies they'll be relieved of in the aftermath.

Send in the almost-military Notional Guard?
Sh'yeah, better and better.
You're going to send in everybody's neighbors' kids to clean up their old neighborhoods.
Go watch First Blood again.
Lt. Clifton from the drug store, and his hardened WARNG commandos, are what you'll find in the Guard most days and places, since forever.

You mistake a lion snoozing on a hot day for an animatronic Disney ride at your own peril, and the Left is doing everything it can to jump on the pressure trigger, to prove to themselves the mine's a dud. They are the tourists going up to talk with the bear, pet the buffalo, and hand feed the crocodiles time after time. It happens over and over everyday IRL, and you and they imagine what happened once with that, or ten times, is the same as what happens every time.

And you learn entirely bassackwardly the wrong lesson from their antics thus far.
It ain't over until it's over.
I tell you it hasn't even begun yet.
But suture self.

Everybody slow on the uptake has to grab the hot stove themselves, at least once.
Best wishes with that plan.
Every day is a learning experience, and on really lucky days for the species, you get to live to learn another day.

Just not always.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to feed the troll, guys...

TPHM, you're like an annoying, know-it-all teenager butting into an adult conversation. If we would *just listen to you* the problem would be solved in no time.

The problem with Chicago isn't Indiana. This has been discussed at length and debunked. Indiana guns are something like 15-20% of the crime scene recoveries in Chicago. If readily available firearms was the issue...wouldn't Indiana be a bloodbath?

Unknown said...

Anon...

You want honest debate? I mean, you were trying hard with your prepackaged talking points and all. Answer this question for me that no one who shares your opinion can answer:

If a person decides to commit murder, they are already choosing to violate the biggest law there is in terms of the effect on the victim, in amount of LE men and money to solve and catch, and in punishment. If I've decided to commit murder, there ain't no more the state could do to me if I break more laws, even murder. What are they gonna do? Execute me twice? Lock me up till I die then lock me up again? As they say, after the first the rest are free.

So where the blazing F8ck in the snowflake world do you and people like you think someone is gonna be geared up about to head out the door on their way to shoot up the local walmart is gonna stop in their tracks because the full auto AK they got from Jose the Cartel dude for $500 is highly illegal, and currently carries a lengthier prison sentence than many first degree murder cases?

Even if your fantasy happens to the fullest extent, and every gun manufacturer in America is shut down, every privately owned firearm is taken, the mexican drug cartels which currently provide 24/7 access to all hard drugs in every podunk town in America also currently provide the same access to full auto AK's along with FN FAls, M4gery's, and HK's.

And despite the best efforts of the BATFAGS and the DEA, the cartels still thrive.

That ain't going anywhere.

So, anon, if someone is evil enough that shooting up a bunch of innocent people is a good idea, I don't see any further law there is we could throw at that person that's gonna do any good.

Cops: If you kill those people, we gonna execute you.

Cops: If you have a gun and kill people we gonna execute you and.....ummm...execute you again.

Yeah, that ain't gonna work.

Anonymous said...

Gotta love it when the trolls ( Emma Lazarus Excerpt) start complaining about the quality of the comments.
I trust my brother Aesop to regulate his blog, but t'would be better if the folks too short for the ride just muster at the slip n' slide.
Really... The grownups are talking
Boat Guy

Anonymous said...

Leave the bomber metaphors for airmen you old seadog.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

You know, troll feeder, ever since I started commenting on here, people have been calling me a troll. Even though I'm not a liberal or looking to stir shit up or pick fights. It's like people have forgotten how to talk to each other. No I don't mean civil discourse. I mean just saying things to each other long enough to get the meaning across before the shouting starts. It's obvious you haven't been part of this conversation long enough to know I don't think I have all the answers or that if people *Just Listened to Me* then things would all work out. Get real. It's never gonna happen and putting effort in that activity is more time than I have in a day, so why bother? The only reason I'm here is because a lot of things have happened in this country as of late that have spiritually unbalanced me and I know a lot of sensible, down to earth folks frequent this blog so I came looking for answers.

I'm not interested in virtue signalling my Patriotic Correctness to anyone so knock it off.

As for Indiana, having lived there, I know the only reason it ain't a non-stop blood bath is because there ain't enough minorities for the mob to lynch and get those numbers up. As our host likes to say, you could look it up.

waepnedmann said...

Think nationally.
Act locally.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Amen to that, Mike!

Anonymous said...

Speak for yourself. The kiddie pool is over there. Have at it.

-Boat Man

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

"So, anon, if someone is evil enough that shooting up a bunch of innocent people is a good idea, I don't see any further law there is we could throw at that person that's gonna do any good."

If that person couldn't get easy access to a gun it might make a difference. Taking guns away from folks doesn't seem to be a productive road to travel, but making sure they don't get to the ones who will go postal could be.

It takes two ingredients (three if you're particular) for a mass shooting. People, and loaded weapons. Targeting weapons seems to be unproductive, so why not go for the people? Get them help, treatment, whatever they need. Lone dickheads with no friends who decide to go on a spree will certainly become less common. Just ask the Post Office. They haven't had letter carriers go postal in a good long while and it's mostly thanks to the various programs put in place specifically to counter that deadly trend. Why not for everyone else?

Anonymous said...

Unknown,

Your screed is full of so many fantastical claims that I think this is probably more your speed.

https://youtu.be/FtSd844cI7U

Anonymous said...

Convenience really is the biggest factor in gun deaths. If mass shooter's and suicidals had to make their own guns and bullets from scratch, I garuantee there's be no mass shootings or suicides. Garuan-fucking-goddamn-tee it.

-Ned

Anonymous said...

Long time lurker, first time commenter.

I used to be a gun nut. Every time some whack job went and killed a bunch of people I would hug my guns closer. I knew the Liberals were coming to take them. It was only a matter of time. But the oldest of my two sons is going to college soon. It's far from where we live and the fear of not seeing him again is....... it's not easy to handle. El Paso and Dayton changed it for me. I taught my boys everything they need to know to survive out there, but it won't save them from a hail of bullets. I'm Republican through and through and personal responsibility is important to me. That's why I'm giving up my guns. Owning them isn't worth the death. Thomas Jefferson had some words to say about guns and plough shares or whatever, but I don't respect the words of a Deist. Instead I choose to follow the example of Cinncinatus, who gave up power to become a farmer once more. That's what I'm going to do too.

I've been pro life my whole life. It doesn't end once they leave the womb. Life is precious and worth much more than my guns ever were.

I choose life.


FullMetalPatriot

McChuck said...

FullMetalPatriot - I do have to commend you for the grade-A non sequitur. "My son is going to college, so since he will be disarmed, I must also disarm myself and my family."

Rollory said...

Aesop - If I'm wrong, I'll gladly wear my foolishness as a badge. Or a sign. Or a hat. Or a T-shirt. Print one out for me if you care to. Me being wrong on this would be a very good thing.

I hope you're right. As yet I see no evidence of it.

Anonymous said...

Even if i might be wrong, i’mma gonna throw the “BS” flag on this “military intel” wunder-kid (i wonder WTF he’s thinking) because of the few i know personally, NONE of the would ever identify themselves as such.

And if you ARE military ANYTHING, then you’ve just violated your oath to “support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies...” so let me congratulate you, and perhaps help you with that sign for your forehead that says “warhead goes here”

-carolinaTURTLE

Anonymous said...

The 2nd amendment is not a “self destruct” button...perhaps you can think of it as a RESET button?

There are a few things i dislike about being called a “conservative” so perhaps i should call myself a CONSTITUTIONIST??

-carolinaTURTLE

The Old Sarge said...

"The Saxon is not like us Normans, his manners are not so (polished).
But he never means anything serious 'til he talks about justice and right.
When he stands like an ox in the furrow with his sullen-set eyes on your own,
And grumbles "This isn't fair dealings", my son, leave the Saxon alone.

"You can horsewhip your Gascony archers, or torture your Picardy spears,
But don't try that game on the Saxon; you'll have the whole brood 'round your ears.
From the richest old Thane in the county to the poorest chained serf in the field,
They'll be at you and on you like hornets and, if you are wise, you will yield."

-- Rudyard Kipling

In fine, don't f--- with the Saxons.

Anonymous said...

Hey Boat Guy, there was an earlier comment made and i thought “that totally isn’t like you...” and clearly now, i see your DAD has apparently joined the conversation??? :-p

-carolinaTURTLE

Anonymous said...

Hey Rollroy,

Perhaps re-watching Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot” (the beginning, at least) i think illustrates it quite well. Benjamin Martin is a combat veteran, and hopes to avoid returning to the horror that is “war” whereas Colonel Tavington unknowingly forced it back on him when he asks “Do you need a lesson on the rules of war?”

There are many “Benjamin Martins” alive and well today.,.

You said “i know why i haven’t” and so i am curious to ask if you would be willing to share those reasons with the class?

As for me, i *almost* completely disarmed myself due to extreme financial hardship, which i am not yet recovered from...

-carolinaTURTLE

Anonymous said...

Final note: i’d like to think there is a difference between “never backing up the warnings” with actual actions, versus not YET... although there is some merit to your parenting analogy. And just think: instead of the Red Flag laws authorizing the seizure of guns, why not the seizure of JUST the individual that obviously needs the help?

-carolinaTURTLE

T-Rav said...

@FullMetalPatriot:

Congratulations on your principled and noble stance, which will do absolutely nothing to affect your children's chances of being present at a mass shooting.

George True said...

So ???

Aesop said...

@Full Metal Patriot,

So, using your logic, how many rapes will be prevented if you chop off your dick, and also your son's?
Will you YouTube us a link to that, or will the ceremony be private?

I'm assuming you'll be taking that step next, as it makes exactly as much sense as what you're babbling about guns.

Then, of course, by selling your cars, you'll never get a DUI.
Without any kitchen knives, you'll cut down on stabbings.
Then, you'll have to pull the wiring out of your house, to prevent those pesky electrocutions.

So, how far are you taking your nonsense?
Inquiring minds would like to know whether it's just guns you hate, or common sense itself.

Aesop said...

@Ned,

"Convenience really is the biggest factor in gun deaths. If mass shooter's and suicidals had to make their own guns and bullets from scratch, I garuantee there's be no mass shootings or suicides. Garuan-fucking-goddamn-tee it."

Zombie Jeffrey Epstein would like to have a word with you.

George True said...

Yeah, FMP, so many things wrong with what Man-with-son-going-away-to-college said, it was hard to know where to start. Thank you for eloquently and concisely illustrating the most nonsensical one.

Several others need unpacking. First, the Leftists have for decades now been attempting to de-legitimize the Founders by changing them from Christians into 'Deists'. For the record, they were CHRISTIANS. They regularly attended church, and they spoke and espoused Bible in their writings and speech. And even if Jefferson had been a 'Deist' (a term I never heard prior to about 20 years ago) it would not in the slightest way diminish the ultimate truth of his guns into plowshares' statement. It an absolute and self-evident truth, and the religion or lack thereof of the one who said it is irrelevant. Ignore that truth at your own peril, Mr Anon with college age son.

Next, the example of Cincinnattus makes no sense. So he was a great Stoic leader who willingly gave up power and went back to the farm. He never said disarm yourselves in the face of an increasingly aggressive and oppressive government. A better example would be George Washington, a great soldier and military leader who also desired nothing more than to return to his Virginia farm and spend the rest of his life farming. And he also was in favor of the citizenry at large being armed to the teeth FOREVER "with all the terrible weapons of war that a standing army might possess".

Finally, Anon, give your son the benefit of your knowledge and wisdom. Teach him gun safety and how to shoot, if you haven't already. Encourage him to carry - maybe he will be the good guy with a gun who stops the next bad guy with a gun. Teach him to check six, and to always maintain situational awareness. And remind him to avoid crowds whenever possible.

Ominous Cowherd said...

They are betting on legacy America being too lazy to get off their ass.

It's been a winning bet for a century.

So, you tell me, what happens when Joe Average decides it's safer and easier to start thinning that herd proactively, instead of waiting for the morning they're stacked up on his porch?

It's been over two centuries since that happened here. The Left just doesn't believe it ever will happen again.

It doesn't matter what we believe: others don't act on our beliefs. They act on their beliefs, and they don't believe you.

Aesop said...

Wise people learn from others' mistakes.

The foolish insist on learning from their own.

Some of them are lucky enough to live long enough to do exactly that, but for some things in life, you don't get that opportunity.

Trying to disarm non-criminal Americans would definitely fall into Category B.

Marina said...

@Anonymous August 13, 2019 at 10:23 AM:
Take a look at your own backyard you fool: Sunni vs Shia has kept you busy for thousands of years now. I didn't even mention your other moslems sects you've been infighting with. Don't come here to give us lessons.
Vice and corruption: Oh yeah, there's none of it the Middle-East !
Thanks for the laughs.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

We should talk. I want to know more about your situation.

Ned2 said...

Wow, you know when you've struck a nerve. All the morons come out to play.

Great treatise, Aesop. Keep up the great work!

Mike_C said...

There’s something very “off” about the FullMetalPatriot screed. It’s like something from a bad science fiction movie where the reptilian alien-wearing-a-human-suit is trying to convince us he’s one of us. “Hello, fellow mammals! I too have hair and fed on the breast secretions of my maternal unit as an infant. I was definitely not hatched from an egg, no sir!” What I can’t figure out is whether it’s meant as some weird form of moral suasion, an awkward attempt at “dialogue,” sheer mockery and trolling, or some kind of infiltration.

Nice attempt to check all the boxes, but the style is not quite right. Here is but a partial list:
1. “gun nut” – hardly used, except ironically, among us Deplorables. Only a strange or very tone-deaf Deplorable would use it to open a supposedly serious screed and cri de coeur such as yours;
2. “hail of bullets” – seriously? From the AK-47 which is an “Automatic Killer” that sprays 47 bullets a second? You gotta NOT use the Salon.com style manual, you know;
3. Republican – yeah, that gets you a lot of cred with this crowd. You DO realize that most of us despise the Republican Party nearly as much as we despise the Democrat Party, right? Does the phrase “The Stupid Party” not resonate? If you were a true “gun nut” you’d not be making noises about being a Republican. Nice try, but the oppo research needs work;
4. “don’t respect […] a Deist” – so that implies you’re a good ol’ born-agin Christian just like us Deplorable hicks, eh? And you know all about *those people*, right? Here’s an answer in kind: “Yep, I hate them whatcha callem Deists too. Tell yuh what, let’s you and me drink some moonshine likker then go handle some snakes. Lemme finish up fucking my cousin Betty-Lou here, and I’ll be right with yuh.” Sheesh;
5. “pro life” – only a leftist would conflate 2A and abortion
6. “FullMetalPatriot” – this is what makes me think you’re about mockery and trolling

It’s about as convincing as me playing a progressive. Here’s my version:

I used to be Vegan. Every time I saw cis-het white males reveling in the murdered flesh of creatures that once had loving mothers I would eat more kale and feed more kale to my Vegan family. I knew that Conservatives owned by Big Pharma were plotting to destroy it through genetic manipulation. It was only a matter of time. But I came to understand that our chronic flatulence is because of all the kale fiber. It turns out my children and I produce more methane than any cow, and that changed everything for me. It hasn’t been easy to …… come to terms with this new understanding. I’ve raised my children with humanocentric values, and I’m a Progressive through and through, and resisting the oppressive power structures that enslave everyone but white Christian males is important to me, but that won’t save my children from Global Warming. Global Warming that WE are accelerating because of our diet. That is why I am giving up my kale, and my Veganism. Kale isn’t worth the death of the planet. Thomas Jefferson was a white slave owner, so anything he ever said or did is automatically invalid.

Anonymous said...

TPHM,

I'll shoot you my information.

FullMetalPatriot

Anonymous said...

George,

That's no to live life and for the record my son ain't no killer. A good guy with a gun is never going to be enough against a bad guy with a gun because good guys aren't natural killers. Not without training. Bad guys with guns don't have that problem.

FullMetalPatriot

Anonymous said...

Carolina turtle,
Thanks for the thought that we are unrelated and I will confirm whomever decided he's a "boat man" ( whatever that may be) is assuredly NOT my Dad - nor it seems, my Brother.
Boat Guy

Anonymous said...

Jeez FMP, stick to what you know; whatever that may be. It sure as hell ain't the preservation of our liberties.
Those of us except the trolls have the training and work at maintaining our proficiency. Go back to Grossman or whomever influenced you WRT "natural killers". If you didn't provide your son the training necessary to prevail over evil then you have failed as a father
Boat Guy

Anonymous said...

Aesop,

I don't know how to fix Rape. I'm just going to stick to mass shootings and my own part to play for right now. Although now that I think about it, it's telling that you bring up the dick chopping so often. I never realized how much guns are a metaphor for dicks until I started reading the report. Same with cars but in reverse I guess.

FullMetalPatriot

Anonymous said...

Mike,

I don't understand what you're getting at. If you're Liberal, why are you here?

FullMetalPatriot

June J said...

@FMP - not sure what the view is out of your mother's basement, but there are literally hundreds of places where good guys/gals are going to train to deal with bad guys. It isn't necessary to be a "natural killer" (whatever the hell that is in your fantasy land) to take out the trash when it is called for.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't take a genius to sense the animosity building up around here. That's why I'm announcing the first Raconteur Report Skinny Dipping Jamboree in Redding, California August 24, 2019 at High Noon. Bring your beverage of choice or don't come at all! The Founding Fathers loved swimming nude and Hitler banned nudism, so what are y'all waiting for? Get on the right side of history and have a good time doing it!

https://youtu.be/3vyzHkv42W8

Country_Gal34

Anonymous said...

FMP,

I'm in the same boat, chief. I don't have the guts to give up my guns just yet, but I'm coming around to the idea. I'm pro-life before pro-gun any day of the week and my actions should reflect that. It's my responsibility too. Stay safe, Brother.

Opsec Joe

Anonymous said...

Bravo, I say. Be the change you want to see in the world FMP.

George True said...

Seriously? A number of mass shootings have been stopped in their tracks because a good guy who also had a gun was there and took action. But the MFM doesn't cover these because they reveal the lie in their guns=bad false narrative.

So your son is 'not a killer'. Fine. You can still teach him situational awareness and to stay away from crowds, And especially to stay away from any officially posted gun-free zones. And as Aesop pointed out, just because he will be walking around at college unarmed, does not mean you have to disarm yourself many mikes away in a different town or state. What sense does that make?

There are basically three kinds of people - sheep, wolves, and sheep dogs. If your 'not a killer' son is going through life unarmed and unwilling to even consider killing under any circumstances, then which of those three do you think he is?

lineman said...

Mike you are a riot and FMP is to dumb to understand your making fun of him...Like I said where I'm the world did this get linked at that brought out the crazies...

lineman said...

Sounds good mid Sept work for you...

T-Rav said...

I'm starting to think that FMP, OpSec, and TPHM are all the same mentally addled poster.

lineman said...

Trolling at its finest huh Brother use a name close to yours to discredit you...Had it done to me many times...What pisses me off is the supposed Patriots that instead of coming to talk to you about it will automatically throw you under the bus even if it's 180 degrees off from what you normally post...The stupid isn't confined just to the left...

Vermillion said...

@FullMetalPatriot You know, a man has a responsibility to himself, his family, his country, and his conscience. A man represents the corner stone of strength, integrity, bravery, and honor to his family. When you throw down your guns YOU surrender. You have now set an example that says....well my dad did it so it must be right. FMP you need to realize what's happening around you. You are here for a reason. Maybe on the fence deciding what to do. The threat is real my friend. Pay attention, listen. Be ready!

lineman said...

That would only ramp up the animosity especially among the female species...

lineman said...

FMP is a troll and wouldn't know anything about the things you stated...

lineman said...

You guys are a few bricks short of a load aren't you...LMAO and so do the wolves...Oh look the sheep decided to give up their guns to stop us from do what comes natural to us...We love stupid sheep and we will have them all for dinner soon...What a bunch of fooking maroons...

lineman said...

FMP I call bullshit on you loving life in fact your screed shows that you hate life and should just end yours now...A person who loves life will defend that life unto death which clearly you don't want to do that anymore by giving up your means to do that...So to sum it up your just a suicide waiting to happen but of course you want us to follow your example and go first...Get the fook out and take your deranged ranting somewhere else...

lineman said...

T-Rav
Now that's great sarcasm Brother...

vermillion said...

@lineman, yeah I realize that. However, Something so absurdly stated in the face of "things" going on just begs a response, as futile as it may seem.

lineman said...

Yea true that Brother...

Beans said...

I've been saying for years the starting point will be one tired, now-lonely due to death of wife, old white guy that has just had enough. And it will spread faster than Ebola in the Atlanta Airport.

And now the leftists within the Congress have threatened the Supreme Court.

That right there will increase someone's finger-pressure on the START SHIT NOW! button by a considerable amount.

And they don't understand that it's a binary switch for us. Nope or Hell-Bent-for-Vengeance. It's like they've never watched a Clint Eastwood movie or something...

MrGarabaldi said...

Hey Aesop;

I had blogged this...

These are the people that want to kill me, my family and my friends because they don't like me. I would explain things to these people but I am just tired and I have reached a point that I don't want to talk anymore...
There are others on the left that want to send me, my family and friends to concentration camps because they don't like me because I am a conservative lawful gun owner...
We are having people that flat out believe that they are in the right and they believe that we are "Nazi's " and we are subhumans and that we deserve everything bad that happens to us. They believe that they are on the "right" side of history and they claim to hate violence unless the violence is targeting their political opponents. I used to say "You want to get rid of all guns so only the government will have them so we can be Safe?" and they uniformly tell me yes....and I inwardly shudder and think of Dachau and I have Blogged about it several times...but I am just tired...
We have people on the left that want to use violence on their fellow Americans because they don't like how they look, act or think.....The Left wants to so ostracize the people that they don't like because they and their media hacks wants to make sure that Donald Trump is a one term president and the people that support him pay in blood and tears and pain. They want to strip their opponents of political power and influence and totally marginalize them and they use their foot soldiers for Soros also known as "Antifa" like the brownshirts of old But I am really tired....

I am just so tired, I just don't want to talk about it or debate it anymore.

Anonymous said...

Number one strat in the troll playbook. "That guy over there is a troll!"

Ned

Anonymous said...

We are most certainly not related, but if we were he'd get a good learning in manners, country style.

Boat Man

idahohunter said...

And there are way more of those than most people think. Having read all 119 comments all I can think is that they're way too many people out there who cannot connect two dots with a line. The bloodletting will be biblical.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

This was pretty funny. A for effort, B for Trollyness.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

His heart seems to be in the right place.

Anonymous said...

I get it. I will not become a slave, no handcuffs for me.

lineman said...

He turned you over his knee and give you the spanking you should of got a long time ago by your dad pumpkin...He would snap you like a twig if you pissed him off...

Mike_C said...

Lineman: whatever FMP's problems are, "dumb" is not number 1, 2, or 3 on the list. This is higher-IQ, literate person with an excellent grasp of American English; and probably college educated (whatever that is worth these days) at the very least. I'm pretty sure the asking if I'm "Liberal" response was driven by ego (the need to demonstrate a quick response) rather than intellect, however. Basically I said, Hey, look at the zipper on that "human suit!" to which the reply was deliberate cluelessness as a kneejerk attempt at deflection. It would have been more clever to just ignore me. But it could've been worse. At least FMP didn't say "Scales? What scales? This is just an unfortunate skin condition! Highly unfortunate!"

T-Rav: I think you're on to something. TPHM is now white (sorry if that triggers anyone) knighting FMP? Oh, and it wasn't all that, TPHM. I appreciate the "A" for effort but it only took about 15 minutes, so you're kind of fucking up the curve. But it was better than a B-level piece of counter-trolling.

Anonymous said...

All you trolls and fake "Patriots" out there, if you actually want to make a difference, then fucking donate to a gun safety fund!

https://everytown.org/

Semper Fi

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

For sure agree on that, Mike. Though I'm not sure what White knighting means in this context. He just sounded sincere to my ears. Or he could be 5D level chess trolling us all. What's your deal, FMP?

Anonymous said...

Listen to the man. We've never met, but he knows what's up. Don't piss me off.

Boat Man

Anonymous said...

Dunno what kinda presumptuous Johnny-come-lately dipshit troll is gonna teach me "manners" on a comment forum.
Shove off, pretender.
Boat Guy

lineman said...

No I would disagree his heart is evil because he is in essence saying he wants the bad guys to win or he is one either way his heart is way wrong and his head is full of rocks...

lineman said...

Go away you Bloomberg Turd...

lineman said...

All different kinds of dumb out there Brother and this post is full of it...

lineman said...

ROTFLMAO...I'm scared...

lineman said...

Boat Man I have met Boat Guy and he is my Brother and I was directing that comment to you...Sorry you weren't smart to catch that but if you had been on this site for longer than a couple seconds you would of known that...

John Wilder said...

Aesop, this post has legs. Then you drop another post INSIDE the post comments. It's like Postception.

Whoa.

Meanwhile, I have some ammo to buy. Six months ago, The Mrs. asked why I bought so much mail order ammo. This month, The Mrs. asked why I wasn't buying more.

(and, yes, that really happened)

Aesop said...

Boys, I'm a patient man, but this isn't the WRSA anything-goes page, and I can smell the pungent under-bridge aroma of Leftard trollishness from many yards downwind.

Your "I'm ready to give up my guns" bullshit is twaddle of the first rank, and believe me, it's rank.

You idiots trying to sell that party line don't get that, but it's something you'd know you'd never hear in a gun store anywhere in forty years, but only if you've been in gun stores for forty years. People trying to troll for five minutes on their first attempts are obviously going to step on their dicks, and you have. Gloriously.

Pro Tip for the Internet: Two anonymous accounts self-validating each other's horseshit the same day out of nowhere pretty much just confirms the diagnosis.

The only reason I'm leaving your nuggets of turdy trolly goodness posted here this time is for Enemy Recognition purposes. For now. And comedy relief.

I give you a 1 for trolling ability, and a 0 for execution.
Thanks for playing, but don't bother to try it again.
You're not anywhere near good enough.

And if you really think anyone, anywhere, who loves liberty, is going to give up their guns because "it just makes sense", or it's "pro-life", you obviously weren't paying attention to the lack of interest after the FBI-sponsored Vegas Massacre, which shot up 600 people in half an hour.

If you think the people that own the 600M guns in this country will be handing them in, and taking their number for the ride on the boxcars, just because two lunatics popped, you're about to get the mother of all Bitchslaps of Reality. They won't leave a mark, they'll leave holes, and you'll be ex-trolls at that point. Re-read the OP, and get back to me, and I'll be happy to clear up any legitimate questions you might have.

But your "giving up muh guns" line of bullshit isn't going to fly, especially here, and it doesn't even sell among retarded people, except most of those on the Left, due to an epic inability to do basic reasoning.

GO BACK UNDER YOUR BRIDGE FORTHWITH, else your posting offerings here will become rather light.
This is not your blog, and the Obvious Trolling flag has been thrown.

Save your pedestrian disinformation campaigns for the mental midget lightweights at ABCNNBCBS.
It's about their speed.

Here, you look like HopeyDopey trying to hold a shotgun by the correct end, or Grabby Joe Biden telling people to just fire a shotgun over a burglar's head to scare 'em off.

I.E. morons.
You stick out like wiggers trying to pass for black in Harlem.
Feel me, G?
Only worse.

Walk tall, idiots.
This mission was a fail for you.

T-Rav said...

I revise my earlier statement.

TPHM is either a) dissociative, b) letting other people use his account, or c) (and most likely) deliberately going all over the place to confuse the rest of us--in other words, engaged in what he hopes will be some mega-trolling.

His posting history on this thread certainly can't be read as that of a sane man acting in good faith.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Amen, lineman

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Brilliant! The answer was in the post title all along. Be patient and stupid will out. Always does. Nice work, Aesop. And better luck next time trollsters.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

I saw FMP, but I missed Opsec. Where is he?

Beans said...

This has been a fun and interesting read. Aesop once again tosses out fresh blog meat and it turns into a feeding frenzy. Love it.

And, yeah, I who know lots of gun owners, even some on the leftist side of the picture, have yet to hear even the lefties want to turn their guns in 'für die Kinder' or because their corporate masters told them to.

Yeah... no. Not even the lefty gun owner in New York State. Who believes a Warren-Sanders ticket is a winning ticket. But he/she/it is still bitterly clinging and not registering or turning in his/her/its now illegal in NY boomstick of destruction.

Yeah... Some whackadoodle just ran over a bunch of people with a truck so I'm giving up my car and will only walk from place to place. That is the equivalent argument of 'too much mass shootings so must fudd up... dur...'

Can't wait for the next episode of Aesop's House of Whack-a-Troll!

Hey People on the Left. The people on the right haven't let loose the dogs of war because we still have too much to lose, and there still is a hope. Once you take hope away from us, that's when the giant glowing ball of doom will descend. Thus my earlier comment about some old dude with nothing to lose has been finally pushed too far. It's already happened in a couple places, like the rancher standoffs or Killdozer. Just hasn't happened in an expanding viral state, yet, because when that happens, wheels come off of everything, including the itnterwebs of which we are playing on right now.

Anonymous said...

This debate is pretty much ended, (it said 141 comments when I checked back in just now) I wonder how many MORE trolling posts our humble host has “disappeared” in the last few days? Mr Aesop, any chance that you had access to evidence showing “TPHM” “FMP” BOAT “man” (did i miss any?) all came from the same basement? (heh...”what difference does it make” anyway?)

Hey Boat Guy, i dare say we have both received a few paychecks from “DoN” (Aesop too, although i dare say he would deny that fact on simple devil-dog espirit’ de corps)

Hey FullMetalPatriot... if/when i find myself pulling a trigger during CW2, know that i was trained with taxpayer funding! As have many of the other commenter/lurkers of this fine blog. Perhaps i will share that training with any & all i seem worthy?

For comparison, check the news for how things are going in Hong Kong!

For that matter, is anyone keeping track of Venezuela?

-carolinaTURTLE

Philosophist said...

Damn! Must be the full Moon out tonight because the crazies are coming out! Pass the popcorn please!

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

@carolinaTURTLE

I came to the same conclusion. What a dumbass.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

@carolinaTURTLE

Constitutionalist works too, but I don't think they spell that long a word.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Obvious troll is obvious.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

This sounds pretty hyperbolic. Any numbers to back that up, Anon?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Mid September it is

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

I haven't been able to find the source of this Jefferson quote, despite a long time trying. Any idea where it's from?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

If laws don't change human behavior, why do we have them? Genuinely curious what your reasoning is.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Is that what they would call the "Nuclear option"?

Aesop said...

Its origin is apocryphal, and it wasn't Jefferson's.

It is, nonetheless, true.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

^Still true^

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Lol, is this Cats? WTF Anon?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Seriously, Boat Man. Get out of here. Or should I call you Boat Ma'am?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Exactly. So what? What else is being done besides ideological scorekeeping on the matter of suicide let alone suicide by gun?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

@Rollory
Don't bluff Aesop on that. He's got a printing press at the ready.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

@carolinaTURTLE

Do you mean post event or pre event?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

@Anon 12:55
Are we quoting Ghandi now? I'm starting to have my doubts about all this.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Lineman,
People get braver on the internet. I wouldn't waste anymore breath on him.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Maybe we could turn it into a breath holding contest for all the trolls. ;)

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Amen, Vermillion

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Thanks for the info.

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

While we're on that, can anyone tell me what a Boat Man is?

TiredPoorHuddled Masses said...

Also, it was 150 something comments last I checked. Let's see if he can get it under 100.

Aesop said...

It's 169 with this one.
It won't go south of that.
But the half-life on certain well-defined items means they will never add to the overall total.
People lacking common sense very rarely test the policy on the front page, but it never works when they do.

If you behave as you would in a backyard BBQ, whilst sober, you'll have little trouble here.

Some people just need a an assful of boot and a faceful of asphalt to be reminded about what those manners are, and look like.
I am ever a gracious host.

Borepatch said...

Aesop, you sure kicked over the anthill here. ;-)

Aesop said...

Not really.
My position is not earthshattering, nor new.

I suspect I got attention from being linked somewhere, and a bunch of keyboard commandos thought they'd come in and start throwing hand grenades in the outhouse, just to watch the poop fly.

The funny part is they don't realize it just drives up my blog hit counts, so the worst thing they could do, from their perspective, is exactly what they did.

Makes me laugh.

June J said...

Annoying and humorous at the same time.

That certain posters who I haven't seen here before the last week or so act as if the comments made by our host isn't about them.

Sanders said...

I'll just drop this quote for deep reflection in regards to the original post, if you don't mind. I also left it at NCRenegade's site:

"The truly dangerous man dresses inconspicuously and is soft- spoken. He walks away from most confrontations. The only time you learn that the truly dangerous man is mad at you is a split second before you die, for he never fights. He only kills. The truly dangerous man knows that fighting is what children do and killing is what men do." - Charley Reese 1986

Marina said...

This Long Beach, Calif street cop with 26 years on the job expects in our lifetime a moratorium on foot pursuits therefore you can expect the crime rate to go up and you can certainly add to your arsenal of reasons an additional one to just not surrender your guns. Says in vid:
"Attacking police is now the new normal".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EWgjU1hXuU&feature=em-uploademail

Anonymous said...

@ 'Real Conservatives'

What part of 'law abiding gun owners are not responsible for the actions of psychopaths' don't you understand?

You want to feel responsible for what these losers, past losers like them, and those yet to come, do to others? That's on you.

Everyone else needs to start learning to defend themselves. For God's sake, at least in your country, you have that right. Use it!

- JL

Anonymous said...

"A harmless man is not a good man. A good man is a very dangerous man who has that under voluntary control." - Jordan Peterson.

For God's sake, coming from a Canadian, DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS. And read your goddamn history. I only wish I lived in a country that had founders that were as smart and had as well a vested interest in their nation's future and people as you do yours.

And as for you people who are talking about giving up your guns....like FullMetalPatriot...you're cowards of the worst kind. There are wolves among the flock and your only solution is to give up and become prey. It's disgusting.

You have a right to self defense in your country. USE IT. It starts with your attitude.

- JL

lineman said...

How about a trade, you for FMP...

Anonymous said...

@ lineman,

I truly appreciate the sentiment.

Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong country (although when you get down to brass tacks, I didn't really get a choice. My parents conceived me here. Had I been born 6 months earlier, I would have been born in Germany where my father was posted at the time). However...this is still my home and, although lately (due to our own problems up here) I'm finding I feel like there's less and less worth fighting for and defending, I'm not quite ready to give up on it yet. It's not even about the uniforms I've worn (and still wear) - it's because this is MY home and, unlike the other 'poor tired huddled masses' who for whatever reason didn't stand and fight for theirs, I will fight for mine. Just know that you folks down stateside are and continue to be my inspiration for doing so. And please keep in mind that there are many like me up here. We're not as dissimilar as many on both sides of the border might think...

Besides...if I did up and leave, and come down south, what would that say about me, my character and my resolve? If I wasn't willing to fight for what was mine when the chips were down, what reason would I give my brethren to the south to believe I would fight with them when faced with the same circumstances?

- JL

lineman said...

I hear you on defending what you have Brother but you still need to come visit and make some contacts here in case you need to unass your area in a hurry...

Anonymous said...

I'll have to set up a blogger account in order to touch base. I'll be doing just that in the near future. Once I do, I'll drop you a line.

Cheers mate.

- JL

Anonymous said...

I come visit and see that Aesop was visited by trolls - this was obviously linked on some leftist site.

Well leftists, I have news. Like a poster above, I'm tired of talking. Everyone I know is tired of talking and arguing with people who believe that ANYONE to the right of Mao is Hitler. I watch you on Twitter with your pronouns in your bios, and most of what you type is a circlejerk. A very few people are willing to tell you that you're wrong, but for the most part you all engage in a bunch of self-congratulatory whirlwinds of tweets that you're somehow "winning".

Do you know what it's like to face silence, but behind that silence is red-hot derision that you'll never be able to change? Because that's what you're all facing. We don't engage with you anymore because we see you for the hysterical nitwits that you are. We're done here. We're done with you - with engaging with you, with arguing with you, with having a damn thing to do with you. We watch your follies and your tantrums and we walk away now. It's all about waiting in silence now, and absolute determination that we will NOT bend anymore. I see it everywhere - the silence. You haven't won ANYTHING after years of winning. You're now losing ground, slowly but steadily - in the courts, in public opinion, everywhere. You pushed too far too fast, now everyone is awake, and watching you... in silence.

We're going to vote next year, and you'll deal with the outcome of that. Before that you will continue your temper tantrurms that we don't care about anymore. That's right. We don't care about you, your beliefs, or what you want anymore. We're not going to meet you halfway. We're going to wait in silence until we're not silent anymore, and THAT is a day that you should fear. But it's coming, because you do not know when enough is damn well enough.

lineman said...

Sounds good Brother 👍

snuffysmiff said...

Not the pets, they can be deprogrammed.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the info.

-Opsec Joe

Anonymous said...

This a great resource. Thanks for this.

-Ned

Unknown said...

Monticello.org says not attributed to TJ in word or writ...
Original content is from Isaiah 2:4
He shall judge between the nations,

and shall decide disputes for many peoples;

qand they shall beat their swords into plowshares,

and their spears into pruning hooks;

rnation shall not lift up sword against nation,

neither shall they learn war anymore.

Mowgli

Anonymous said...

@Anon 3:03

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1048706

Good luck with that voting thing. Your gonna need it!