Saturday, November 1, 2014

Attention Future Camp Residents



From Forbes, on quarantines:
The critical reckoning over forced quarantines is still to come.
Consider this scenario.
Sometime in January or February – as the Ebola epidemic explodes out of West Africa – we’ll start experiencing larger, more frequent outbreaks in American cities. With the flu as a background to confound suspected cases of Ebola, public health departments will be hard pressed to “track and trace” all of the potential “contacts” when perhaps dozens of Ebola cases pop up in their cities.
Unable to pinpoint who might have come in close contact with Ebola, and be at risk of contracting the virus, they will reach for their most absolute tool – forced quarantine – as a way to mitigate threat amidst uncertainty. The number of people who will be placed into forced quarantines could easily number in the hundreds.
If this scenario sounds far fetched, take a closer look at the accelerating epidemic in West Africa. If the rate of spread doesn’t start to subside soon (there are some encouraging signs of deceleration in Liberia, but spread is accelerating in Guinea and Sierra Leone) it’s just a matter of time before Ebola breaks out to a region with closer connections to the U.S. — like Latin America. Once it goes to such a market, and becomes epidemic, the U.S. would be importing far more than the sporadic case.
This begs the question, how will state and federal governments exercise their authority to quarantine people in such a scenario. As we have seen from recent events, that legal power is sweeping, poorly defined, and absolute.

RTWT.

And ponder what you're going to do if you haven't planned ahead, or moved outside the likely corral before the barricades go up. Think hard, and plan early.

Remember the words of the Sage of Gainesville:
You Don't Have To Live Like A Refugee

9 comments:

Capitalist Eric said...

The Forbes article stated "Ebola disease will never become epidemic in the U.S. (so long the virus doesn’t mutate in ways that make it far more contagious)."

When a supposed expert makes a blanket statement like this, I immediately know he's full of sh!t. Thus the question becomes, "why did he lie?" On whose orders?

Aesop said...

He's not lying.
He's simply an MD out of his depth, and full of the hubris of ignorance.
Pretty much like 50 or 50,000 others in the last few months, some of whom have had noteworthy come to Jesus moments already.

Skip his goofy prognostications, and pay attention to the facts about the deficiencies and open doors to abuse in current quarantine law.

If that alone doesn't move people to have a Plan B, and avoid becoming refugees/quarantinees, I can't imagine what would.

gamegetter II said...

The executive order the article was referring to was signed July 31st,it seems to deal with possible SARS and/or Enterovirus 68 outbreaks.

"(b) Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled. This subsection does not apply to influenza."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/31/executive-order-revised-list-quarantinable-communicable-diseases

Even though the article claims the feds do not have the authority to quarantine an entire city-
If a large number of people were to come down with Ebola in any large/mid-sized city in the USA,all the .gov agencies and/or .mil would have to do is just shut down a few roads,and stop all traffic from going inside/outside the interstate loops/bypasses that route traffic around the cities.
It would be simple to blockade any large/mid-sized city,and keep everyone in,other than the few smart enough to have figured a way out before the personnel are fully deployed around the city.

Just because they do not have the authority now,that doesn't mean they won't have it as soon as a few hot zones flare up here.
Remember-that's how we got the grossly misnamed Patriot Act.

Isolating entire villages is how Ebola outbreaks have been stopped in Africa in the past.
The sheeple will be screaming for the gubmint to "do something" about Ebola.
Mass quarantines will be the something.

Grouch, MD said...

This is, I assure you, in our future if things get hot here. You should not ask me how I know this. You should instead ask yourself how you need to prepare for it.

gamegetter II said...

Doc Grouch

"You should instead ask yourself how you need to prepare for it."

Yep.
Doing all we can here,can't afford a house elsewhere,have a 70+ acre piece of property we can go to in an area populated mainly by the Amish.
Has a 7 acre lake-bass,crappie and bluegill. A spring fed creek that flows into the lake for a water source,plenty of standing dead ash trees for firewood,plenty of deer and small game.
Would have to live in tents,but should be far enough away from big cities to be rounded up like cattle and sent to a "quarantine camp".

Thank you for adding another voice of sanity here and at WRSA-it's greatly appreciated.

Anonymous said...

If you were to get Ebola it seems like you would be much better off being early than late.

FrozenPatriot said...

Game getter: "Just because they do not have the authority now,that doesn't mean they won't have it as soon as a few hot zones flare up here.
Remember-that's how we got the grossly misnamed Patriot Act."

According to USC Article 1 section 1, article 1 section 8, and amendment 10, fedgov has the power neither to quarantine, nor to enact most of the patriot act, yet nothing will stop them, except us. The states, on the other hand...

gamegetter II said...

FrozenPatriot

"According to USC Article 1 section 1, article 1 section 8, and amendment 10, fedgov has the power neither to quarantine, nor to enact most of the patriot act, yet nothing will stop them, except us. The states, on the other hand..."

Yep. States,and the few who will stand up to the BS coming from .gov inc.

To get an idea of how and where .gov inc. would set up roadblocks-if you live in or near a major urban area-Google earth is your friend.

As Aesop has said-how's your supply of canned goods?
Now's the time to top off your supplies,before people are getting into fistfights over cans of beanie weenies because that's all that's left on the store shelves...

Tucanae Services said...

The fact is the States don't need any new laws to handle Ebola cases. When active TB was the scourge at the turn of the last century States passed laws to be able to detain you.

"Nurse next patient."
"Pustules, bleeding, high fever. Worse case of active TB I have ever seen. Take him down to ward b and lock him in."
"Yes Doctor"

Would a doctor lie? Well they did at the height of the standoff at the statehouse in Wisc. Writing bogus slips so union members would not be fired. So no reason these same individuals would bogus up a chart so they can detain you.

"We don't need no stinkin' new laws. We just lie with the ones we got."