The giveaway: In 1866, the year when this imaginary SCOTUS decision quote purports to hail from, there were only 36 states, not 50. Nebraska became #37 in 1867. (Oh, and word to your mother: there aren't even 50 continental states, even now. Apparently you were sick the day they talked about Hawaii being a group of islands in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. We're pretty sure SCOTUS clerks knew all that even in 1866. You're really on a roll there, dipshit. Walk tall.)
The second half appears to be some jackass' commentary, but it takes a decision and then drags it far beyond what was actually stated, and tries to write laws into being that don't exist, and turns a "may not" into "making war". Little illogical leap there, cupcake?
This is what happens when Common Core grad fucktards try to meme, because they're too stupid to do two mouseclicks and find out how many states there were, or whether they're "continental" before squatting and plopping out this sort of effluvia onto the internet.
It's time for a reminder from our 16th president:
We haven't seen anything so patently stupid and full of shi...er, rose fertilizer as the header meme since some WH flunkie plopped out Obozo's fake "birth certificate" online, cut-and-paste filled in using a font not invented until this century.
Step forward, Anonymous Meme Fucktard, and claim the Biff Tannen "Make Like A Tree" Award, and wear it with pride. Along with the obligatory ceremonial dunce cap, jackass.
"...this imaginary SCOTUS decision quote...+
ReplyDeleteNot so imaginary.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/71/2/
In Ex parte Milligan, SCOTUS ruled that the use of military tribunals to try civilians when civilian courts are operating is unconstitutional,
"Failure to learn from history dooms one to repeat ... Stupid memes."
ReplyDeleteAI could at least make seem more plausible. Or...
"life is hard. Even harder if you are beat by a machine." With apologies to The Duke.
Pity that.
ReplyDeleteWould have been very useful if it was real. IMHO, it SHOULD be real.
@Bear,
ReplyDeleteYou have to read all the words; you don't get to pick the ones you want buffet-style.
That's why I put all of them in there.
The "quote" is imaginary.
The SCOTUS decision is not, nor was it ever characterized by me as such.
The exhibit is a meme. View it as a meme, though poorly presented.
ReplyDeleteLook at the entirety of the 2nd paragraph without parenthesis, without the same yellow background. See the 2nd para as merely the added comments of some current day schlub. Because that is exactly what the 2nd para is.
Or, if required, mentally delete all of these 2nd para. Dismiss it, completely ignore it. Having done that, is the 1st paragraph changed in construct or context or intent?
The meme creator is guilty only of creating a terrible meme. I reckon every meme creator has been as guilty at least once.
The Milligan opinion is more interesting than the imaginary quote. Were military trials of civilians of the period common place? (If they were I was not aware.) Consider that something must have been going on for Congress to issue the Posse Comitatus Act enacted in 1878. And what became of Major-General Hovey who initiated the arrest and trial?
ReplyDeleteYup, there are some silly ones floating around the 'net.
ReplyDelete@Rick,
ReplyDeleteIt's not just "terrible", it's materially false, and goes beyond the original decision, and deceitfully states as fact the existence of a law never in effect, and invokes a status neither stated nor implied by the court. The colloquial term for this is "pure bullshit".
At least in 1866, SCOTUS rightly understood their role as interpreting laws actually in existence, not inventing new ones out of whole cloth.
The fucktard memester hurdled that line, and cleared it by 20 feet.
@ maruadventurer,
Ten states were, at that point, largely unreconstructed, and two border states still under martial law as well as the former Confederacy. The court merely reiterated that in those places where the courts were in operation and U.S. law was being enforced, martial law was not only unnecessary, but illegal. (They did not state that military officers slow to rescind martial law were "at war" with the Constitution and people of the US, which is where our memetard stepped all over his own dick about twenty ways.)
Posse Comitatus was the South's belated response to having been under Yankee military rule as former rebels for some years. TL;DR: Don't come in second place in a civil war. As every losing side in every one of them could have told anyone at the time. Notable examples being Charles I, Louis XVI, and Czar Nicholas. Jefferson Davis, Robt. E. Lee, and tens of thousands of Confederate soldiers got off incredibly lightly, from a historical standpoint. In most times and places, they'd have all been hung or shot. Wiser heads prevailed, as reconciliation, rather than retribution, was a more sensible approach.
But chickenhawk Radical Republicans and more than a few Union army generals (read up on Gen. Hooker treating the formerly distinguished and prominent ladies of New Orleans as if they were all whores to get a flavor for the animosity on both sides immediately after the Stars and Bars came down) were happy to muck that up for some good time starting about 30 seconds after Lincoln died, until they were finally put in their place, having gotten most of the bile out of their systems with the passage of three Constitutional Amendments and the Reconstruction Acts.
An Army police state is still a police state, and there were more than a few drumhead trials by military occupation governments before ROL was fully restored and recognized.
Milligan was more at a belated slap by SCOTUS at Lincoln, dead a year before they issued their ruling, for his declaration (with congressional approval) of martial law in Missouri and Maryland. They were basically locking the barn door long after the horse was gone, and most of them were Southern sympathizers in the first place (bear well in mind this was the same court that had ruled that blacks were property in Dred Scot just a few years earlier), and there was no love lost between SCOTUS and Lincoln's memory. Had SCOTUS issued such a ruling between 1861 and 1865, they likely would have been placed under arrest on the spot by the military, on presidential orders. They chose discretion over valor, and waited until Lincoln was dead and the war long over before stepping up to the plate on the topic.
Yellow-backed weaseldom has a long and distinguished pedigree in the governing of the U.S., throughout history, pretty much from 1603-present.
Looked up the 45th Congress. Interesting how States like PA,OH,NJ and NY were near evenly split between R&D so soon after the Civil War. The two members of Congress who served on Military Affairs committees as it was called back then were both Ds one House, the other Senate and both served in the Union service.
ReplyDelete"Yellow-backed weaseldom has a long and distinguished pedigree in the governing of the U.S., throughout history, pretty much from 1603-present."
ReplyDeleteHoo boy, you said a mouthful there, brother.