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Peter at BRM thinks some folks are "fedposting", i.e. inciting violence. That suggesting people need to be tossed from helicopters or shot in the face is going too far. And that civic decorum must needs be maintained.
His blog, his rules.
Some folks posting may indeed be feds; entrapment is what they do. Buuuut...
People haven't "had it" yet, because they aren't doing it.
And the fedposting is, as usual, the Usual Anonymous Suspects. As always.
It was 77 "terrorists" on Lexington Common who touched things off last time, and shooting people in the face was suddenly in vogue.
Some tyrants don't learn any other way, and most people realize, generally belatedly, that all their efforts at a peaceful solution were nothing but appeasement, which enervated their allies while emboldening their enemies to push farther and harder.
What can't continue, won't.
Feds are gonna fedpoast; it's all they've got. They've seen what happens when they try the direct approach. It never turns out as they'd hoped. Boo frickin' hoo.
"There's nothing wrong with shooting. As long as the right people get shot." - Inspector Harold Calahan, SFPD |
But you have the literal brownshirt army and senior political leadership, from the Oval Office on down(!), already spearheading open calls to consider the right half of the country terrorists, kill them, lock them in concentration camps, and re-educate them. The trouble is, all of us know where those boxcars drop off, and we won't be having any of that this time, nor anytime.
The fuse is lit and only getting shorter Peter, and however that saddens you, you're wise enough to recognize it isn't going to grow itself longer over time.
We're already living in what is a total and unmitigated banana republic except admitting its existence openly and outright. And that minor lack is a pretty thin fig leaf over what's been going on for years, stretching into decades.
The question isn't whether or not things blow up.
It's only down to where and when, and the only thing standing between this moment and that one is random circumstance, and a few pounds of trigger pressure.
Then the ball is open, and the range is hot in both directions.
Pointing those truths out isn't calling for it. It's just reading a thermometer on a boiler headed for an explosion. What's coming isn't rhetoric and philosophy. It's chemistry and physics.
True.
ReplyDeleteAesop, you know better than that - "literal brown shirt army" - is not true.
ReplyDeleteFigurative, yes; literal, no.
Words mean things. I know I heard that somewhere before.
Wish you weren't right, but...yar.
ReplyDelete@The Old Guy,
ReplyDeleteThe army is literal, not figurative.
Their behavior is literally the same as the Brown Shirts.
Only the wearing of matching shirts in brown is not.
"A" for effort, though.
Fes are going to shitpost...but it's NOT 'all they got'. Just ask that poor schmuck the ATF ventilated in Little Rock a couple weeks ago. For every "Waco" there are dozens and dozens of cases where the badgethugs kill citizens and then go crack open a brew to celebrate. What happened in Waco doesn't happen NEARLY enough. And till it does the criminals in power have zero incentive to change their M.O.
ReplyDeleteLittle Rock was an aberration, and they have to dole those out sparingly.
ReplyDeleteAlways assume "they would if they could", and they aren't because reasons.
That's why they keep trying to gin up more excuses to justify going full jackboots.
The country's already not on their side, and they haven't got the numbers nor the momentum for anything more robust.
So they cosplay Nazis at fake rallies, and fedpost, because neither of those things get them shot at. That's why they'll go after 200 gun dealers for every drug cartel member with a gun they try to nab. FFLs don't shoot them on sight. Cartels and other crooks, not so much.
I have checked the history books. No revolution has ever been catered. So the current agitation is not that.
ReplyDeleteBut is tyranny. Agitate for effect,,,,Congress passes a law restricting freedom,,,,More agitation,,,,Another law,,, Soon there is no Bill of Rights.
Unless we take them back at the point of a gun.
I'm starting to think a Castle Bravo over Washington DC would be the simplest solution.
ReplyDeleteAt some point, however, the FedPosts will bw used against you.
ReplyDeleteIt was the reason several folks were deplatformed on Blogger a while back. Part of the reason that I stop things at a certain point in the comments on my Blog. Incitement of violence is one thing, (and often I agree) but I'm not willing to get an interview with the Feds due to their own comments. Not for stuff that is free to my audience.
Feel free to run your blog the way you want. Peter gets to set the limits for his.
B @ Middleoftheright.com
I have the same limits, B.
ReplyDeleteStopping a blog short of incitement isn't the problem (nor particularly hard).
The greater point is, this conflagration is going to start itself.
These things are always like popcorn: nothing, then a couple of random pop-offs, then suddenly everything, everywhere.
And TPTB keep turning up the heat and shaking the pan.
now, as always, the issue distills down to 'location, location, location..
ReplyDeleteFedposting does 2 things: a) warn the threatend party and b) give the government legal justification to wedge a giant crowbar into your butt crack, and pry your ass wide open. Anyone you associated with electronically, wittingly or unwittingly, are now under Saruman's eye, and so area anyone they associated with. We know the right does not practice INFOSEC worth a damn, there are hundreds of them rotting in D.C. jail right now from Jan 6 charges as proof of that.
ReplyDeleteThose making real plans are not putting them on anything electronic, are not carrying any cell phones, and are meeting face to face at places without cameras.
B,
ReplyDeleteAlready in the works. The ban against TikTok is not aimed at that site alone but has broad sweeping power that is handed off to the Executive to use at their leisure. Coming to an IP address in your area soon.
@Unknownsailor,
ReplyDeleteGoogle "Cloward-Piven".
Contemplate Saruman's task when the associations are damned near half of everybody.
And anyone who's not already on 2-5 lists right this minute hasn't been trying very hard.
As proven throughout the country's history, the feds will do as they damned well please, 24/7/365. What you post online has little, if anything, to do with that.
The only thing keeping them going, to date, is the near total absence of any sort of serious pushback.
Nothing lasts forever, including that situation.
I prefer the Henry Bowman School of what should be discussed.
ReplyDeletedo things. shut the feck up about the things you've done. never talk about the things you've done to anyone. ever.
the best way to keep a secret? keep a secret. tell no one, so no one else is tempted to talk about it either.
most people these days who sit in jail got there because they wouldn't shut the feck up.
now, there is an exception...if you're filling the wavelengths with white noise. talk about stuff that never happened. talk about stuff that's impossible to do. talk about stuff that happened multiple states away that you couldn't possibly have done. make sure to get big details wrong but be confident in what you deliberately get wrong. eventually the people listening can't tell the fertilizer from the meat.
the main drawback to this tactic is you can't get tired of it. because if you suddenly go silent, they suddenly pay attention again.
this is a tactic of multiple show hosts...alex jones, hal turner, even more mainstream ones like glenn beck. sure, they'll throw something real in there and point to what they got right incessantly. but sifting through the garbage is exhausting...and that's the point. it's made to get you to get mad and simultaneously tune out. garbage is easier to get into your subconscious if you're tuned out.
There's also as stated the "Numbers" issue...
ReplyDeleteInformation Overload
Too Many "Perps"
Including EVERYONE who comes here, and at My House, nevermind WRSAs place... the collective 'folder' on the people who visit just our three sites must be measured in acres by now.
In total, there's maybe 80k Fuzz Nationally
That's why they pick and choose for maximal impact psychologically
To paraphrase Papa Hemingway
'How did you start the revolution? Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.'
We're getting a lot closer to 'suddenly' these days.
Allen @ 1:21,
ReplyDeleteUsed to apply the tactics you mention. However after watching one man pile up 91 felony charges in three different States, one of which the statute of limitations expired on.... I don't think I would hang my hat on that approach these days.
Shoot, shovel and shutup (SSS) seems the order of the day.
Exactly, the boiler is going full tilt, and the pressure isn't going down.
ReplyDeleteToo true. Normalcy bias and the belief if we are polite others will be too.
ReplyDeleteMore often, the other side exploits that to their benefit.
No good deed goes unpunished is a lesson I relearn consistently. Funny how you're the a-hole when you stand up and look out for you and yours.