Whoever, it is in reference to a book of the same name -- https://www.amazon.com/The-Starfish-and-Spider-audiobook/dp/B000TK5BQY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=18Q6U2RKLYUK2&keywords=spider+starfish&qid=1663513403&sprefix=spider+star%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-3
The core thought is that the spider represents a centralized system vs a starfish that is a decentralized system. Even if you chop the starfish up it will regrow into multiple starfish. The book focuses it on a business paradigm.
Reminds me of this most awesome book, The Wasp by Erik Frank Russell written in '57
"The war has raged for nearly a year and Earth desperately needs an edge to overcome the Sirian Empire's huge advantage in personnel and equipment. That's where James Mowry comes in. Intensively trained, his appearance surgically altered, Mowry secretly lands on one of the Empire's planets. His mission: to sap morale, cause mayhem, tie up resources, and wage a one-man war on a planet of 80 million--in short, to be like the wasp buzzing around a car to distract the driver...and causing him to crash."
1. When attacked, a decentralized organization tends to become even more open and decentralized:
Not only did the Apaches survive the Spanish attacks, but amazingly, the attacks served to make them even stronger. When the Spanish attacked them, the Apaches became even more decentralized and even more difficult to conquer (21).
2. It’s easy to mistake starfish for spiders:
When we first encounter a collection of file-swapping teenagers, or a native tribe in the Arizona desert, their power is easy to overlook. We need an entirely different set of tools in order to understand them (36).
3. An open system doesn’t have central intelligence; the intelligence is spread throughout the system:
It’s not that open systems necessarily make better systems. It’s just that they’re able to respond more quickly because each member has access to knowledge and the ability to make direct use of it (39).
4. Open systems can easily mutate:
The Apaches did not—and could not—plan ahead about how to deal with the European invaders, but once the Spanish showed up, Apache society easily mutated. They went from living in villages to being nomads. The decision didn’t have to be approved by headquarters (40).
5. The decentralized organization sneaks up on you:
For a century, the recording industry was owned by a handful of corporations, and then a bunch of hackers altered the face of the industry. We’ll see this pattern repeat itself across different sectors and in different industries (41).
6. As industries become decentralized, overall profits decrease:
The combined revenues of the remaining four [music industry giants] were 25 percent less than they had been in 2001. Where did the revenues go? Not to P2P players [Napster]. The revenue disappeared (50).
7. Put people into an open system and they’ll automatically want to contribute:
People take great care in making the articles objective, accurate, and easy to understand [on Wikipedia] (74).
8. When attacked, centralized organizations tend to become even more centralized:
As we saw in the case of the Apaches and the P2P players, when attacked decentralized organizations become even more decentralized (139).
Hi Aesop, Back when, USN Boot Camp. Sandyeggo.... Lotsa' "Training!!!"... The usual stuff.. Recall,... a class, on what to do if "captured by the enemy!!" Of our captured, the highest ranking of our group took the helm... If removed by the enemy.. the next up took over till there was only "Yourself!!" ...Well Go Figure!! Now what!! I remember old WWII war movies and some WWI ones too!! Lotsa good "TACTIC'S!!' Bottom line, Don't wait till it is only "YOU!!!" But, if so, ..... I don't have to tell you, you know the drill.... seriously.... Audentes, Fortuna, Iuvat!!!!!!!!!, skybill PS.. A tip of the "Hatlo Hat" to the late Mike Vanderboegh for a Great Friendship and Good Advice!!!
The Left doesn't understand independent thought or real grassroots activity; they are all top down command driven. It's why they are so desperate to destroy Trump, because they see his as key to destroying us. They don't realize he's a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.
spider vs starfish, starfish always wins. always.
ReplyDeleteWhat's that mean? I really don't know.
DeleteIt's about resilience versus fragility.
DeleteWhoever, it is in reference to a book of the same name -- https://www.amazon.com/The-Starfish-and-Spider-audiobook/dp/B000TK5BQY/ref=sr_1_3?crid=18Q6U2RKLYUK2&keywords=spider+starfish&qid=1663513403&sprefix=spider+star%2Caps%2C166&sr=8-3
DeleteThe core thought is that the spider represents a centralized system vs a starfish that is a decentralized system. Even if you chop the starfish up it will regrow into multiple starfish. The book focuses it on a business paradigm.
I am the worst person I know, and I intend to prove it to these fuckers.
ReplyDeleteReminds me of this most awesome book, The Wasp by Erik Frank Russell written in '57
ReplyDelete"The war has raged for nearly a year and Earth desperately needs an edge to overcome the Sirian Empire's huge advantage in personnel and equipment. That's where James Mowry comes in. Intensively trained, his appearance surgically altered, Mowry secretly lands on one of the Empire's planets. His mission: to sap morale, cause mayhem, tie up resources, and wage a one-man war on a planet of 80 million--in short, to be like the wasp buzzing around a car to distract the driver...and causing him to crash."
In short, be a wasp....
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/335919.Wasp
@Whoever,
ReplyDeleteIt means that unlike with a spider, if you cut up a starfish, you don't kill it. You multiply the number of starfish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfish_regeneration#:~:text=In%20arm%20autotomy%2C%20starfish%20typically,utilized%20to%20produce%20new%20starfish.
Thank you
DeleteAll the chickenshits are too busy waiting for someone else to go first.
ReplyDeleteHere's the wasp.
ReplyDelete@whoever
ReplyDeletehttps://irevolutions.org/2010/01/09/starfish-spider-decentralization/
1. When attacked, a decentralized organization tends to become even more open and decentralized:
Not only did the Apaches survive the Spanish attacks, but amazingly, the attacks served to make them even stronger. When the Spanish attacked them, the Apaches became even more decentralized and even more difficult to conquer (21).
2. It’s easy to mistake starfish for spiders:
When we first encounter a collection of file-swapping teenagers, or a native tribe in the Arizona desert, their power is easy to overlook. We need an entirely different set of tools in order to understand them (36).
3. An open system doesn’t have central intelligence; the intelligence is spread throughout the system:
It’s not that open systems necessarily make better systems. It’s just that they’re able to respond more quickly because each member has access to knowledge and the ability to make direct use of it (39).
4. Open systems can easily mutate:
The Apaches did not—and could not—plan ahead about how to deal with the European invaders, but once the Spanish showed up, Apache society easily mutated. They went from living in villages to being nomads. The decision didn’t have to be approved by headquarters (40).
5. The decentralized organization sneaks up on you:
For a century, the recording industry was owned by a handful of corporations, and then a bunch of hackers altered the face of the industry. We’ll see this pattern repeat itself across different sectors and in different industries (41).
6. As industries become decentralized, overall profits decrease:
The combined revenues of the remaining four [music industry giants] were 25 percent less than they had been in 2001. Where did the revenues go? Not to P2P players [Napster]. The revenue disappeared (50).
7. Put people into an open system and they’ll automatically want to contribute:
People take great care in making the articles objective, accurate, and easy to understand [on Wikipedia] (74).
8. When attacked, centralized organizations tend to become even more centralized:
As we saw in the case of the Apaches and the P2P players, when attacked decentralized organizations become even more decentralized (139).
Hi Aesop,
ReplyDeleteBack when, USN Boot Camp. Sandyeggo.... Lotsa' "Training!!!"... The usual stuff.. Recall,... a class, on what to do if "captured by the enemy!!" Of our captured, the highest ranking of our group took the helm... If removed by the enemy.. the next up took over till there was only "Yourself!!" ...Well Go Figure!! Now what!!
I remember old WWII war movies and some WWI ones too!! Lotsa good "TACTIC'S!!' Bottom line, Don't wait till it is only "YOU!!!" But, if so, ..... I don't have to tell you, you know the drill.... seriously....
Audentes, Fortuna, Iuvat!!!!!!!!!,
skybill
PS.. A tip of the "Hatlo Hat" to the late Mike Vanderboegh for a Great Friendship and Good Advice!!!
Nicely said. And appropriate for 2022.
ReplyDeleteThe Left doesn't understand independent thought or real grassroots activity; they are all top down command driven.
ReplyDeleteIt's why they are so desperate to destroy Trump, because they see his as key to destroying us. They don't realize he's a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.
And here is the hardcopy; follow the links to Jeff Bezos for the audobook:
ReplyDelete“The Starfish and the Spider: The Unstoppable Power of Leaderless Organizations” by Brafman, Ori