Why This Argument Always Ends up The Way It Does

From comments to a link of my post at Borepatch's, courtesy of frequent commentor on multiple sites Beans:

"To use your DQ reference, say I'm on my Harley and are coming back from the shooting range with my AR race gun all tricked out. And I want to use the can. So, if open carry is legal, why can't I carry muh AR, hurhur, into DQ so I can drop a deuce and get a cone?"

Stupid hypotheticals are still stupid.

Take your AR home from the range, and then go get your ice cream. The hallmark of adulthood is impulse control and learning to live with delayed gratification. (Except, evidently, for some owners of modern carbines.) Jackassery problem solved.

(And FTR, nobody said you "can't" carry there. The word was "shouldn't". Learn the difference.)

Stop pimping arguments for the childish morons, please. You're just enabling them. As is Angus.
You both ought to know better.

You can contort all you want; if someone's open carrying long arms, in most times and places, and absent exigent extraordinary circumstances, no matter how you want to twist and gyre, you're overwhelmingly likely just being a dick for no good reason.

That has nothing to do with "them" coming for your guns.
That's been true since at least the 1960s, openly.
And yet, people then didn't wander into the local store packing a rifle either, just because they could. Because it was stupid then too.

The Open Carry Retard Posse needs to stop making everyone who owns, or carries, look as stupid as the twatwaffle who thinks his wish for ice cream right now and "muh open carry rights" trumps common sense. I don't need nor want people with a mental malfunction to self-select and appoint themselves spokesholes for "the movement". Those retards are drawn to attention-whoring like politicians are attracted to news cameras and microphones. They're making the problem worse for everyone, for zero gain, except scratching the itch of their own psychosis. The end result is plenty of good cause to restrict a natural right, because they're that short-sighted. Hitching your wagon to their tractor of Dumbass isn't helping anyone, in any way, except those who are "coming for your guns".

I repeat, please, stop enabling stupid people and carrying their water.

Otherwise, take your same hypothetical, and make it stopping off for a tour of the White House, the local government building, or watching the weekend high school football game, and show your work. "Why shouldn't I be able to register my vehicle or pay my property taxes on the way home from the range with an AR-15 on my back?" It's that stupid, and there isn't enough lipstick at the entire mall to pretty up that pig.

Stupid ideas are always stupid, and nothing in either natural law nor the Second Amendment ever changes that. Play stupid games...

So why does this idiocy persist?

Because you can't argue someone out of a position with common sense and logic, if he didn't use them to get to his position in the first place.

Newsflash, kids: the Second Amendment isn't absolute. Neither is the First.
They are both limited by common sense and common law.
And neither gives you the right to gratuitously scare the shit out of people, which is all this is about.
You want to exercise the right to carry a weapon when you need one, which means you can't be out flaunting your surrogate dick everywhere all the time, when you don't need to.

Try a thought experiment: Think Navy Seals. Army Special Forces and Rangers. Marine Force Recon/Raiders. The SAS/SBS. Certified Tacticool Badasses. Operating operationally way beyond you, any day of your life.
Posted below: All the times you see them toting guns to the supermarket, the bank, and the local ice cream parlor, 1960-present:




So just maybe, catch a fucking cluebat there, right in the back of your head.

And when, because of fucktards coming in with their carbine on their shoulders, and sending little old ladies and schoolkids into tizzy fits, Dairy Queen bans all open and concealed carry on all their private property, which trumps your Second Amendment rights by a country mile, because you were busy being a civil rights attention-whoring jackass, don't come crying on the internet saying the business owner hates guns.
The reality is, the business owners hates idiots. And the shoe fits.

When an entire state bans open carry, because you've made their case for them, take full responsibility. You greased the wheels on that, and then pushed right along with the gun-banners, to make guns in public less likely, because you could.

When you manage to turn the trend around, of allowing open carry, and start turning the clock back to no carry anywhere nationwide, like you will, own that too.

Well played, genuisii.

Because, snowflake Baby Duck historically clueless folks, back in the misty beyond of time out of mind, even Califrutopia was a full Open Carry state. No, really. Just like Texas is now. So, how'd that work out?

One day, somebody realized that meant for anybody not otherwise prohibited.
So we got this here:



When it's 1966, and you've lost the NRA and conservatives like Reagan, you've lost the entire country. And you did.

What could possibly go wrong now? Ask voters in Philly how they feel about Black Panthers monitoring polling places with weapons in hand. (Probably the same way cops in CA felt about a carload of armed Black Panthers rolling up to "monitor" them writing tickets to black drivers in 1966; just a hunch.) CA wasn't a Leftard Paradise in 1966. You could look it up.

And this isn't about race. It could be (will be) biker gangs. MS-13. Antifa. PETA. Skinheads. Save The Whales. Or any 57 other groups of fuckwits. And in about 0.2 seconds, people will see the gaping elephant-sized hole in your Open Carry Everywhere arguments, and that's the ball game for you, for another century or more, while the tide rolls back in those same 45 states.  (You'll be dead by then, but hey, fuck your kids and grandkids, amirite?)

Now ponder the timeless logic that "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."
I blame Common Core and stupid parents for not raising kids to know the meaning of "ought". Getting the concept across nowadays is harder than teaching Chinese calculus to most folks.

Own your fucktardery, if you've been trooping your hardware in public in the first place, to be a dick, because you have no common sense. And then apologize to everyone else for making yet another place off-limits to self-selected sensible carry, or any carry at all, because of your jackassery.

Like. This. Has.

I will list, below, every instance of the Open Carry Assclown Posse owning that, since ever:











QED

So stop being dicks, stop carrying water for the dickheads, and go bandage your own dick if you think this is an unlimited black and white discussion.

Real life is harder than that.
It requires some brain usage.
The Founders saw that requirement as a feature, not a bug.
Try and keep up.

It's taken 50 years of hard, patient work to claw our way back to laws in 90% of the country based on common sense.

So, if only for the novelty where open carry is concerned, try using some