Only two presidents I've liked in my lifetime. Reagan and Trump. This does not mean I agreed 100% with them. It just means they were better than any of the others.
He taught me I had to add diesel costs directly to every work bid I did! Thanks you Obama, I really appreciate all the things you did to us! Really! I'm sure the rest of the world will never forget all the things you did to them also!
So, Obammy caused Peak Oil and the Housing Bubble? Hey, I detest the half breed illegal Muslim. Almost as much as the worst ex-wife. But the Prez is not God, he doesn't run the country ( Federal Reserve, anyone? ). Let's not get carried away rim jobbing Forrest Trump.
I don't know about Peak Oil, but we hit Peak Stupid when we elected Bush Senior, we passed Peak Blithering Waterhead with Ozero and are contending with his stay behind brain bugs on Planet P.
Yay, low gas prices. Meanwhile, we're set to lose Texas and the White House, and therefore the Supreme Court as well, in 2024 because he can't (won't) stop America from becoming Mexico. "Yay, winning."
"Lose the whitehouse"? Yeah possibly if we use the Venezuelan election model - which is not beyond possibility. We'll have to resort to Captain Parker's instruction in that event The Tejanos will have to decide who wins Texa s. BG
The democrap vote harvesting machine will determine election outcomes from now on. Still have not heard of any pokey time in any of the uncovered illegal voters to date.
Peak Oil is Leftard propaganda? I could agree about Gore Warming, but seriously? You think resource depletion as a concept is a Communist Under Every Bed delusion? Visit my part of the country-there are ghost towns all over the place. Yeah, stuff actually runs out. And if you are a Fracking Fag, tell me why the industry was losing money when sweet light was selling at $100 a barrel. Peak Oil just means Peak Conventional Oil. Which is still deadly serious, even if forecasts were wrong that all oil would run out. No one gets the first stab at a theory 100% correct.
Peak oil, on a timeline running to infinity, is correct. Peak oil, in human time scales, is codswallop. We have more proven reserves now than ever, and the number of places we haven't even looked is mind-boggling. Peak oil is a guy yapping that he's running out of underwear and running around in circles like a headless chicken because his bedroom drawer is empty, while living next to a WalMart Distribution Center with bales of the stuff.
So for 200-400 years out, maybe. In anyone's lifetime reading this, not so much. It springs from the same dystopian doomer porn the Leftards distribute to coerce you into living on sustainable algae cakes and tofu, to control every aspect of your behavior, not because of objective reality.
Soylent Green was a stupid screenplay, and it's an even stupider political theory. Except for the part about recycling the useless riff-raff into agricultural supplements.
President Trump is without a doubt the best President we've had in my life time, and Eisenhower was President when I was born. People get mad because he hasn't been able to deliver everything he wants to, but with half the electorate, both political parties, the FBI, the Deep State, the MSM and every leftist on earth against him, he's done ok.
Gasoline $2.34/Gallon, diesel a little more and this is in the suburbs of Boston. Visiting from California on business and I am shocked at the price difference. It's all the ridiculous taxes and regulations that are killing California as well as the Third World tide that's washing ashore.
60 miles east of here is George's Bank which has not been explored for oil like the rest of the East Coast. There could be more oil off of the East Coast just waiting but it's not worth looking for it yet. When the Government causes shortages we are running out of oil, otherwise not so much.
I remember that "invisible hand". It came a knocking when American oil production peaked in 1970. We all remember the gas lines and rationing, I'm sure. Smith returned in 2005 when world oil production peaked. He's been slapping our bottoms red ever since. No one seems to get the message. Or maybe... we secretly like getting spanked by Daddy Adam?
Demand and price are being effected by the global slow down, and the abundance of fracking oil. Fracking only delivers gasoline, not diesel or the other neat stuff you want like jet fuel to police the empire. The figures for fracking were insane from the beginning, like Bitcoin. No way you get more than another decade, let alone centuries. And I'm not sure why we pretend you can just drill more and get oil, when the lower 48 is the most explored area on the planet over the last century. Conventional oil discoveries peaked in the 1960's, and the economically viable life of those fields are about forty years. All this low Net Energy fuel we are discovering is NOT conventional crude. I'll see your Adam Smith and raise you a Rev. Malthus. I know I'm not going to change any minds here. I still have to try.
" . . . That stinging sensation is Adam Smith's "invisible hand" saying "Hi! Remember me?""
Indeed. Let's not forget either the massive amounts of coal in N. America. In a prolonged, deep oil crisis worse than '73 - '74 the global warming bullshit would go out the window and coal would be used a transportation fuel as well as for power generation.
Coal was made in to gasoline, diesel and lubricants during WWII and by the S. African company Sasol during sanctions. To some extent coal is a substitute for oil and a price competitor too. Coal is not used more widely in the U.S. because of political considerations, not technical limitations.
Thinking of the invisible hand makes me think of Neal Stephenson here in Snow Crash
When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity ...SNIP
We have ships not zeps but we do pretty much have just this situation only with a reprieve on account of President Trump. This is certainly what our "elite" want for us
As to Peak oil , it may or may not be a thing but lower oil prices are predicted by many of the peak oil models.
That said there are far more things out there that pose a civilization ending risk than oil including fertilizer shortages, ocean health and insect die back. How many if any of these things are true is up for debate but there are a metric ton of them and it only takes one to take down a society as brittle as our is.
I suspect that catabolic collapse of the US and/or a civil war from Red takeover or gun grab is far more of a threat than peak anything in the mean time. That has a maybe 20 maximum year time frame, peak anything if true much longer.
Also while oil prices are low no sane person can suggest that a society whose child per fertile women rate is at the lowest point its every been and has infrastructure in the condition ours in is in good shape.
Healthy societies do not have nearly half a century of below replacement fertility and you can't blame it all on the social mood. Some sure but a huge chunk is economic. If the invisible hand doesn't get off its duff, industrial society will null itself since not one developed nation can replace itself and very very few of them have high functioning political or business systems capable of adaptive problem solving over along term.
No babies, no society
Right now USA the most fertile group are the Amish who theoretically ,not in real life of course, will be the majority group in a couple of hundred years
Keeping in mind we've had nearly half a century of below replacement fertility already 25% or so of the numbers.
Insect die back? I saw a headline about that on Drudge this morning. Before today, I had never in my life heard even the merest hint of a suggestion that there are not enough bugs in the world. (Other than honeybee colony collapse disorder.) And now all of a sudden today I am seeing this in two different places before 9:00 AM. As if we didn't already have enough other stuff to worry about. I normally don't start drinking this early in the day, but now I am thinking about it.
Peak oil? I read both sides of that coin comments. It's not how much we have available. It is the cost in recovering it is all that matters. Its called inflation what is the dollar worth today and in the future? Insects a good distraction. When they had a massive bee die off in Florida is was after they sprayed a fuckton to kill off the zika virus. Saw only one story associating the two. Every spring most big cities with a mosquito problem are spraying no reports on bee kill offs nor study to confirm any relation since the Florida story. Must be big gubmint and corporatacrocy in the works. Bees die off we die off.
Only two presidents I've liked in my lifetime. Reagan and Trump. This does not mean I agreed 100% with them. It just means they were better than any of the others.
ReplyDeleteHey, Obama did my business a great hands up!
ReplyDeleteHe taught me I had to add diesel costs directly to every work bid I did!
Thanks you Obama, I really appreciate all the things you did to us! Really!
I'm sure the rest of the world will never forget all the things you did to them also!
So, Obammy caused Peak Oil and the Housing Bubble? Hey, I detest the half breed illegal Muslim. Almost as much as the worst ex-wife. But the Prez is not God, he doesn't run the country ( Federal Reserve, anyone? ). Let's not get carried away rim jobbing Forrest Trump.
ReplyDeletePeak Oil? 2008 called and they want their lefty talking points back.
DeleteI'd save it. 2028's gonna want it. With interest.
DeleteI don't know about Peak Oil, but we hit Peak Stupid when we elected Bush Senior, we passed Peak Blithering Waterhead with Ozero and are contending with his stay behind brain bugs on Planet P.
ReplyDeleteMiles to go before it's over.
Yay, low gas prices. Meanwhile, we're set to lose Texas and the White House, and therefore the Supreme Court as well, in 2024 because he can't (won't) stop America from becoming Mexico. "Yay, winning."
ReplyDelete"Lose the whitehouse"? Yeah possibly if we use the Venezuelan election model - which is not beyond possibility. We'll have to resort to Captain Parker's instruction in that event
ReplyDeleteThe Tejanos will have to decide who wins Texa s.
BG
The democrap vote harvesting machine will determine election outcomes from now on. Still have not heard of any pokey time in any of the uncovered illegal voters to date.
DeletePeak Oil is Leftard propaganda? I could agree about Gore Warming, but seriously? You think resource depletion as a concept is a Communist Under Every Bed delusion? Visit my part of the country-there are ghost towns all over the place. Yeah, stuff actually runs out. And if you are a Fracking Fag, tell me why the industry was losing money when sweet light was selling at $100 a barrel. Peak Oil just means Peak Conventional Oil. Which is still deadly serious, even if forecasts were wrong that all oil would run out. No one gets the first stab at a theory 100% correct.
ReplyDeletePeak oil, on a timeline running to infinity, is correct.
ReplyDeletePeak oil, in human time scales, is codswallop.
We have more proven reserves now than ever, and the number of places we haven't even looked is mind-boggling.
Peak oil is a guy yapping that he's running out of underwear and running around in circles like a headless chicken because his bedroom drawer is empty, while living next to a WalMart Distribution Center with bales of the stuff.
So for 200-400 years out, maybe.
In anyone's lifetime reading this, not so much.
It springs from the same dystopian doomer porn the Leftards distribute to coerce you into living on sustainable algae cakes and tofu, to control every aspect of your behavior, not because of objective reality.
Soylent Green was a stupid screenplay, and it's an even stupider political theory.
Except for the part about recycling the useless riff-raff into agricultural supplements.
Reminder: Peak Oil means the end of cheap, affordable oil, not all oil everywhere. After a peak comes the slope. The jagged, bumpy slope.
DeletePresident Trump is without a doubt the best President we've had in my life time, and Eisenhower was President when I was born. People get mad because he hasn't been able to deliver everything he wants to, but with half the electorate, both political parties, the
ReplyDeleteFBI, the Deep State, the MSM and every leftist on earth against him, he's done ok.
Gasoline $2.34/Gallon, diesel a little more and this is in the suburbs of Boston. Visiting from California on business and I am shocked at the price difference. It's all the ridiculous taxes and regulations that are killing California as well as the Third World tide that's washing ashore.
ReplyDelete60 miles east of here is George's Bank which has not been explored for oil like the rest of the East Coast. There could be more oil off of the East Coast just waiting but it's not worth looking for it yet. When the Government causes shortages we are running out of oil, otherwise not so much.
Well, judging by demand and price, we're nowhere near peak then, are we?
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That stinging sensation is Adam Smith's "invisible hand" saying "Hi! Remember me?"
I remember that "invisible hand". It came a knocking when American oil production peaked in 1970. We all remember the gas lines and rationing, I'm sure.
DeleteSmith returned in 2005 when world oil production peaked. He's been slapping our bottoms red ever since. No one seems to get the message. Or maybe... we secretly like getting spanked by Daddy Adam?
Demand and price are being effected by the global slow down, and the abundance of fracking oil. Fracking only delivers gasoline, not diesel or the other neat stuff you want like jet fuel to police the empire. The figures for fracking were insane from the beginning, like Bitcoin. No way you get more than another decade, let alone centuries. And I'm not sure why we pretend you can just drill more and get oil, when the lower 48 is the most explored area on the planet over the last century. Conventional oil discoveries peaked in the 1960's, and the economically viable life of those fields are about forty years. All this low Net Energy fuel we are discovering is NOT conventional crude. I'll see your Adam Smith and raise you a Rev. Malthus. I know I'm not going to change any minds here. I still have to try.
ReplyDeleteDon't fracked wells have 3 or 4 years in them before they zero out too? Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Delete" . . . That stinging sensation is Adam Smith's "invisible hand" saying "Hi! Remember me?""
ReplyDeleteIndeed. Let's not forget either the massive amounts of coal in N. America. In a prolonged, deep oil crisis worse than '73 - '74 the global warming bullshit would go out the window and coal would be used a transportation fuel as well as for power generation.
Coal was made in to gasoline, diesel and lubricants during WWII and by the S. African company Sasol during sanctions. To some extent coal is a substitute for oil and a price competitor too. Coal is not used more widely in the U.S. because of political considerations, not technical limitations.
Thinking of the invisible hand makes me think of Neal Stephenson here in Snow Crash
ReplyDeleteWhen it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity ...SNIP
We have ships not zeps but we do pretty much have just this situation only with a reprieve on account of President Trump. This is certainly what our "elite" want for us
As to Peak oil , it may or may not be a thing but lower oil prices are predicted by many of the peak oil models.
That said there are far more things out there that pose a civilization ending risk than oil including fertilizer shortages, ocean health and insect die back. How many if any of these things are true is up for debate but there are a metric ton of them and it only takes one to take down a society as brittle as our is.
I suspect that catabolic collapse of the US and/or a civil war from Red takeover or gun grab is far more of a threat than peak anything in the mean time. That has a maybe 20 maximum year time frame, peak anything if true much longer.
Also while oil prices are low no sane person can suggest that a society whose child per fertile women rate is at the lowest point its every been and has infrastructure in the condition ours in is in good shape.
Healthy societies do not have nearly half a century of below replacement fertility and you can't blame it all on the social mood. Some sure but a huge chunk is economic. If the invisible hand doesn't get off its duff, industrial society will null itself since not one developed nation can replace itself and very very few of them have high functioning political or business systems capable of adaptive problem solving over along term.
No babies, no society
Right now USA the most fertile group are the Amish who theoretically ,not in real life of course, will be the majority group in a couple of hundred years
Keeping in mind we've had nearly half a century of below replacement fertility already 25% or so of the numbers.
Insect die back? I saw a headline about that on Drudge this morning. Before today, I had never in my life heard even the merest hint of a suggestion that there are not enough bugs in the world. (Other than honeybee colony collapse disorder.) And now all of a sudden today I am seeing this in two different places before 9:00 AM. As if we didn't already have enough other stuff to worry about. I normally don't start drinking this early in the day, but now I am thinking about it.
ReplyDeletePeak oil? I read both sides of that coin comments. It's not how much we have available. It is the cost in recovering it is all that matters. Its called inflation what is the dollar worth today and in the future? Insects a good distraction. When they had a massive bee die off in Florida is was after they sprayed a fuckton to kill off the zika virus. Saw only one story associating the two. Every spring most big cities with a mosquito problem are spraying no reports on bee kill offs nor study to confirm any relation since the Florida story. Must be big gubmint and corporatacrocy in the works. Bees die off we die off.
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