Spot the meme, and find the flaw:
"We don't know what occurred in the care of the Index Patient, the original patient in Dallas. At some point, there was a breach in protocol, and that breach in protocol resulted in this infection," he said at a news conference Sunday. "The (Ebola treatment) protocols work. ... But we know that even a single lapse or breach can result in infection." - CDC Director Frieden.http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
The media has made their decision, because they have the reasoning skills of retarded chimpanzees:
Breach In Protocol Led To New Diagnosis, Says CDC Director - ABC
Officials said the nurse was wearing full protective gear while treating Duncan in quarantine at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital, but somehow she got infected anyway, through what they said must have been a breach of Ebola safety protocol.
"This is because the healthcare workers who cared for this individual may have had a breach of the same nature of the individual who appears now to have a preliminary positive test." - Frieden, same press conference
Officials Blame 'Breach of Protocol' For New Ebola Case - NBC News
Healthcare worker infected, "Clearly, There Was A Breach In Protocol" - CBS News
CDC Director Thomas Frieden told CBS' "Face The Nation" in an interview airing Sunday morning that the case is troubling "because clearly there was a breach in protocol.
Hospital worker infected by Ebola by 'breach in protocol', changes coming - Fox News
Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Thomas Frieden, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director, each said an unintentional breach occurred.
Now For Some Actual Facts:
CDC Court Jester Frieden has absolutely no idea on the planet how the nurse got infected. HE EVEN SAID "WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED".
For everyone (including about 99.9% of the media) who flunked Critical Thinking every day since kindergarten, "We don't know what happened" invalidates everything else you say after that point on the subject of WHAT HAPPENED.
Lesson For the Day:
When you issue authoritative-sounding official statements upon subjects of which you admit no knowledge, you are properly understood by intelligent persons to be Speaking Out Of Your Ass.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, NIAID Director and Assistant Court Jester on Ebola, has absolutely no idea on the planet how the nurse got infected.
Nota bene that neither does Dallas County "Judge" Clay Jenkins, nor Texas Dept. of Health Commissioner Dr. David Lakey, nor any media reporter, nor any spokeshole for Texas Health Presbyterian, nor even the infected nurse herself.
When you say "We don't know what happened", and then you start adding "but somehow", you have just called in the Underpants Gnome to support your fanciful bucket of bullshit as if you actually knew something.
Now pay attention to what else you're hearing, in most cases for the first time, from media M.D. talking heads, and public assclowns like Fauci and Frieden:
* Hospitals aren't ready
* We're looking at the protocols
* Changes are coming
Waitadamnedminute!
Those hospitals, "any" of which "can take care of Ebola patients", can't do that?!?
The protection protocols, the "totally effective" ones, are going to be changed?!?
Because they aren't working the way you all assured us they would?!?
Magicians do this too, it's called misdirection.
But they don't usually blame the bunny when the trick goes wrong, and when they saw the lady in half or skewer her with 27 swords, we sit still for it because we all understand they aren't really subjecting her to a horrible and painful death.
The nurse in Dallas isn't so lucky.
They have no fucking idea what caused her infection, and speaking from that abundance of acknowledged total official ignorance, they have unstintingly and wholeheartedly blamed her own assumed negligence for her current predicament, based upon no evidence whatsoever.
This is risible, except for the tragedy in question, and the actual human life now in the balance.
It couldn't possibly be some massive flaw in the protocols.
It couldn't possibly be anything else at all.
They know this because...they know this.
Because they know everything, even the things they just told you they don't know.
The CDC, an official arm of the federal government, has just authoritatively told everyone on national TV today, that this nurse got raped by Ebola, because of how she was dressed, and "She was ASKING for it!"
But wait, there's more!
This nurse was self-monitoring, because she wasn't even one of the 48 people Dallas officials are checking on twice daily as potential Ebola victims.
So Number One, that means they aren't watching any of the other healthcare workers along with her who cared for Duncan, supposedly at "no risk", and
Number Two, we're now left with the assurance that a nurse who, from her own professionalism, was monitoring herself without any supervision or oversight, and immediately presented for evaluation, the very evening she spiked a temperature, is supposed to be the one so careless that she infected herself with Ebola.
And if you can believe that, I have a bridge for sale. Cheap.
So the next question is, how many other healthcare workers are they not monitoring in Dallas, or anywhere else, who aren't on mandatory isolation to prevent spreading the disease to others?
And the ultimate questions: What new lies will they tell us all tomorrow?
And what unsubstantiated whoppers have they already inflicted on humanity since Day One?
We already see the nose. The only thing missing from these jackass geniuses now is the ears and tail.
Absolutely loving your blog, you remind me of my Dad, who would've been saying the same things if he'd been here, I'm pretty certain.
ReplyDeleteOne thing you've already covered in your blog is the KIND of PPE people wearing making a difference. (Nurse on the right vs. nurse on the left).
What PPE were people in Dallas wearing and what PPE has been required/suggested to the average HCW by the CDC?
The CDC guidelines are pretty poorly written. Possibly deliberately.
ReplyDeleteCommon sense says you use impermeable gowns/coveralls (which is what MSF/Doctors Without Borders uses in Africa). But hospitals can get away with tissue-thin barrier gowns, and still meet the letter of the CDC "guidelines" for droplet precautions for Ebola.
Apparently, that's news to the CDC director, and he doesn't know that, but he has magical knowledge of what happened in an ICU room four states away inside of which he's never been.
At this point, 90% of the time his mouth is open, I hear a never-ending stream of bullshit spewing straight to the floor.
The challenge is to find the bits of truth he mixes in with all his self-assured cover stories, hand waving, and arm-flapping.
The nurse went symptomatic on Friday 10/10.
ReplyDeleteWorking backwards from the based upon average incubation the she was most likely exposed in the 9/25-28 timeframe when Duncan first had contact with the hospital.
We already know the hospital was being quite careless at that initial stage so I wonder if all the talk of PPE now is an attempt to cover up said carelessness?
Love your blog and the commonsense. I hate the lies we are told and the kabuki dances of Washington and the press.
ReplyDeleteWhat Frieden needs to admit is that the virus is passed quite easily in aerosol, as in coughing and sneezing and there is a growing body of evidence that it also is passed when the patient is asymptomatic. I think at this point TPTB are trying to contain the panic until they can pull their money out of the stock market. Once Ebola starts on a roll in North America, all bets are off. I hate to state it that simply but like all other things, its all about money. The "protocol" comments may be correct but if protocol means level 4 protection and perfect procedures, there is no way in hell we are going to contain this. Too late; Game over
ReplyDeleteI wonder if people can look ahead in this and see the inevitable scenario that's coming: "they" have already lost control - they did that when this zero guy presented and was sent home with a prescription. The whole Dallas area is already a hot zone - simply put, there is a small but important (since your life may depend upon it) statistical chance that any person you encounter there may be shedding ebola virus. There is a small but important possibility that this hot zone will be extended to basically everywhere, over time. It won't be too long before the entire emergency health care system breaks down, first in regions, and, finally, nationwide. It might take some months, but it will happen. But, long before that, the economic engine will be fatally impacted with a massive coronary. Fear is a powerful motivator. And now, you know why they've built all the camps, why they've stockpiled millions of caskets, and why all the agencies have armed themselves up against "the people."
ReplyDeleteW need flamethrowers, lot and lots of flamethrowers....
ReplyDeleteYeah were screwed good. I left the USA for the Philippines on August 6th. When I arrived in Manila, they had us fill out a medical evaluation card. This was the first time ever that this was a requirement, so I know it is because of Ebola.
ReplyDeleteThe end result? Before Immigration window they had us hand our cards to a young man standing in the middle of the hallway. Thats it! No doctors, no medical exam. Nothing! Just give them the magical card and walk right into the country.
So far there are no reports of Ebola here, but when there are there is no way to contain it here. Millions will die. I blame President Obola first and foremost or should I blame his Illuminati Masters?
Building a NWO on blood and death. That is a NWO I want no part of. Faucking arsholes!
Why wait? It takes less than 15 minutes on the phone or computer to "get your money out of the stock market." I know because I did it myself.
ReplyDeleteIt doesn't matter WHY they are doing it (although you can see that 'preventing panic' is justifiably high on their list of concerns). It only matters that they ARE doing it. All the rest is speculation, and the wilder the speculation, the less credible everything associated with it gets. Please don't poison this well with all the usual BS secret masters stuff. I'll say it again, it doesn't matter who might be secretly doing what for whatever mysterious reason.
Work on getting your own life in order. Prepare to support and defend your loved ones. DON'T get distracted.
Thanks Aesop, keep it coming.
nick
banned from GLP for their usual bs reasons-i don't PAY to read it/will not subscibe/how much money do THEY WANT-
ReplyDeleteanyway, they have the thread that there is security tape proving that the Dallas nurse followed protocol.
i cannot view it BUT u can.
www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message2666699/pg1
so for your discretion,here it is.
It seems that there are 3 possibilities. In order of increasing likelihood, they are:
ReplyDelete1. The protocols suck. Not very likely as they've protected other doctors for years.
2. Breach. At some point she was not following protocol. This would probably have been at some OTHER TIME than the instance CDC keeps referring to her as following protocol -- i.e., she contracted it earlier/ later/ while washing her PPE or otherwise not in the room with Duncan. OR,
3. She was infected by contact with someone else -- i.e., NOT Duncan. That person has not yet developed symptoms or been diagnosed positive for Ebola.
With a three week window possible between infection and first symptoms, the CDC continues to assume that "first diagnosed = first infected". So when someone else -- a member of Duncan's family, for example -- gets diagnosed, they'll be scrambling to find out how that person got infected BY this Presby nurse, instead of (as a sane person might) realizing that the nurse was infected by that person, or by some third party who was infected by that person. It was just that the nurse spotted her own symptoms and self-reported BEFORE the other person, even though the other (as-yet- non-symptomatic) person was infected first and spreading the virus.
In other words, somebody OTHER THAN Duncan, and OTHER THAN the individuals that officials are "tracking", has the virus and has unknown identity and whereabouts.
Maybe just me, but that last seems more likely than the twin assumptions that
A. the protocol was both followed AND not followed. Or,
B. the protocol is both flawless AND flawed.
Healthcare workers have been dropping like flies since this started.
ReplyDeleteAnd now our first homegrown case is someone who was wearing full PPE, so we can't lay it off to third-world healthcare and poverty of supplies.
Assuming the protocol is not the problem is the problem.
And supplying an imaginary answer from a position of zero facts is the height of self-serving jackassery.
CDC knows nothing about how this happened. Frieden and Fauci know nothing about how this happened.
An honest and scientific investigation would start by not knee-jerk blaming the victim, and instead focus on seeking and disseminating knowledge, rather than trying to palm off another case as somebody else's fault (which helpfully absolves Frieden and the CDC of culpability for everything that's happened as a result of their policies.
Leadership is to find the problem and fix it.
Frieden is seeking only to fix the blame. Having selected the cause, anything further can only be a quest to justify that conclusion.
Aesop,
ReplyDeleteI've been looking at the photos of health care workers both here and in Africa. What I am seeing suggests to me that "PPE" is actually to BSL-3 standards. Ebola does indeed qualify as BSL-4.
Comments please
Winston
Probably true, due mainly to economics and logistics.
ReplyDeleteBL4 is appropriate in a CDC bioresearch lab where only a few people are going to be working, and money is printed by the boss.
Not so much in a plastic-sheet Ebola Treatment Center where $50 is a month's wages.
And Medecins Sans Frontieres has an excellent safety record with that level of precautions, but note that they also assign two people to assist everyone to dress properly, and two more to spray people down and assist with de-gowning properly.
That's not the protocol here, and I'm sure no one is doing it. Hospitals and their administrators are penny-pinching bastards, and this is a case where cheap is going to kill people.
But staff costs money, and most hospitals are on the ragged edge of profit/loss every year.
That's why I've said all along the most cost-effective solution is to do everything humanly possible to keep infected people from getting here in the first place.
Once Patient Zero walks in your door, you've already failed. Anything after that is trying to salvage a tie from a defeat.
Now you're seeing the predictable results of that original failure.
Assuming that there'd still be an Internet after Ebola got to that level?
ReplyDeleteYou really are an optimist about all this.
Hasn't anyone ever heard of "immaculate infection"? It is quite common in the STD world, so why not with Ebola?
ReplyDeleteAnd hey, that could count for one miracle. Whoever gets the credit has just one more miracle to go to get canonised by the Vatican.
Let's see WCO.
ReplyDeleteYou posted 'millions contract and thousands die' from various influenza infections.
True.
The death rate data for 'the flu' is 5 million infected will get you 500,000 dead, on average.
Well, we all know the current strain of Ebola has a death rate that if those 5 million were infected, you'd have 3 to 3.5 million dead.
You say to 'let you know' when Ebola in the U.S. gets to a million infected.
We won't have to. You'll know it too well yourself when there's around 6 to 7 HUNDRED THOUSAND dead.
It's interesting you rate the two virus as equivalent. Are you really that optimistic, or just mathematically challenged?
Not sure where to post this question so I'm putting it here:
ReplyDeleteSo the nurse self-monitors and reports symptoms on 10/10.
The earliest she could have been exposed to Duncan was 9/25 so based on what we know about incubation that makes sense.
However, I'm seeing rumors that her boyfriend has also been admitted to the hospital with suspect symptoms.
If he is a positive then how if the didn't work at the hospital and it's not supposed to be transmittable if you're not symptomatic?
That's a lot of ifs.
ReplyDeleteWorse, it's rumor-mongering.
I just got a link to one of the stories alleging that the BF was hospitalized with symptoms.
Problem is, the e-mail they cite for evidence specifically says the BF was hospitalized WITH NO EBOLA SYMPTOMS WHATSOEVER, thus purely as a precaution.
So the idiots running the story don't even read their own stuff (or can't read at all.)
If it isn't fixed in a reasonable amount of time, or sourced better, they're getting featured as the next @$$clowns du jour.