tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post9188404091798454349..comments2024-03-28T06:37:07.024-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: We Have To What?!?Aesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-54254471980600832662014-10-17T14:40:38.516-07:002014-10-17T14:40:38.516-07:00From the World Health Organization at http://www.w...From the World Health Organization at http://www.who.int/csr/disease/ebola/ebola-6-months/lessons/en/:<br /><br />"Ebola emerged nearly 40 years ago. Why are clinicians still empty-handed, with no vaccines and no cure? Answer: because Ebola has been, historically, geographically confined to poor African nations."<br /><br />The obvious solution to this problem, if you're a Marxist, is to infect Americans. I can't cite any pronouncement of President Obola that echoes the sentiments expressed by the WHO, but I'm sure he's in perfect sympathy.mikejhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01819651219822075922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-19923309463565507022014-10-17T09:46:57.219-07:002014-10-17T09:46:57.219-07:00In a very short time, "we" will be unabl...In a very short time, "we" will be unable to contain what Pretzeldent Ofucktard will; through indecision, inaction, and insanity; let in the country. I am still saddened by the situation in Africa., but as I said, it is not something we can realistically "fix". Every passing moment brings us closer to needing something closely resembling napalm to stop the spread of this contagion. Crying and wringing hands won't do it, nor will walking in a circle and waving our arms in the air. <br />Or clipboards, we just don't have enough clipboards...<br />1) Arrest the children making decisions now, and <br />2) Quickly have an adult begin to make the difficult but necessary and responsible decisions. <br />Or we're fucked. We might be fucked anyway, but let's not have 'stupidity' be one of the words on our country's tombstone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-75351506042145132122014-10-17T07:59:59.977-07:002014-10-17T07:59:59.977-07:00http://m.wptz.com/politics/obama-will-name-ron-kla...http://m.wptz.com/politics/obama-will-name-ron-klain-ebola-czar/29189690<br /><br />New czar, actually. A political hack of a lawyer whose only medical experience is that he might have possibly caught one of the ambulances he used to chase.Cybrluditehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02222195374935367060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-66463992057022184032014-10-17T07:59:40.860-07:002014-10-17T07:59:40.860-07:00@Anonymous 04:24
Nobody, IMHO, needs to weaponize...@Anonymous 04:24<br /><br />Nobody, IMHO, needs to weaponize Ebola. There are already thousands of weapons in existence, many of which are quite mobile, even air-mobile...they are otherwise known as infected people. I have also heard/seen that it is difficult to weaponize it - and whether that is true or not is beyond my lack of expertise.<br /><br />Be that as it may, I don’t believe that this administration is doing anything to protect this country. It motivations and goals are far left political, and if the actions taken to further those goals happen to protect the US, it is (for us) a lucky accident.<br /><br />You say that nothing else makes sense. True, if you were dealing with a normal, reflexively pro-American, President. This one, however, is far different than all before him. His motivation, I believe, is to put into practice what he has repeatedly said - that the US is not an exceptional nation, and that we bear some kind of collective guilt, centuries later, for slavery. Thus, according to this "logic" (which is no logic at all, merely an emotional, guilt- and hate-ridden view of this country and its obligations to the world), we must help African nations with big problems because...slavery. Or because...economic imperialism. Or because...fuck all knows why.<br />Note that I specifically, like Aesop, want to help the African nations impacted by Ebola as much as possible - while keeping us safe. Materials can be provided (whether they can, or will, be delivered within those countries is another matter}. <br /><br />I know this: sending troops to operate in the very heart of the Ebola epidemic, in the open air, with very few, if any controls - while skilled doctors and nurses working in controlled conditions and wearing biohazard suits are catching Ebola - is, at best, utter stupidity of the kind that hasn't ever been before. At worst it is insanity or malevolence. It is a VIRTUAL GUARANTEE that several or several dozen troops will get Ebola. Yes, you can place them in quarantine (and there are plans to do so). But what are the specifics? HOW are they going to be in quarantine? In isolated rooms so that if someone is infected they don’t infect others? If so, WHERE can something like that be done with a medical certainty that the Ebola won't spread? If they AREN'T going to be isolated, then if one/a few have it they will ALL get it - and then how do you care for them? The point is that I don't know the answers to these questions, and neither does anyone else outside of the highest levels of government (and maybe they don't even know).<br /><br />If there is a terrorist threat related to Ebola, they need to tell us - to justify sending troops to THE infected area. But we haven't been told anything, and with the history of government lying to us, and particularly THIS administration lying to us/hiding things from us on THIS matter, just sending several thousand soldiers there is not justifiable.<br /><br />Bottom line: if a house across the street is on fire, you don't contain it by doing things that are likely to set your own house on fire. And sometimes, regrettable or tragic as it may be, you have to stand back and let it burn down - because to do otherwise would be to needlessly risk lives for nothing, simply because it can't be saved. It pains me to say that, because we ALWAYS help others in trouble, and do so pretty much no matter the expense in time, money or resources. But to do so at the risk of infecting our nation with a highly communicable, highly lethal disease is sheer insanity. It is even MORE insane when one considers that if we bring it here, we will almost certainly wind up with a natural reservoir here, one that will result in future epidemics at random points in the future (even assuming that we get the coming one under control).A Texannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-50973026199891770512014-10-17T07:22:08.036-07:002014-10-17T07:22:08.036-07:00I'm also wondering when Judge "I'm ha...I'm also wondering when Judge "I'm happy to enter the infected apartment without PPE" will quarantine himself.<br /><br />He seems pretty damn eager to lockup Americans who have done nothing wrong, while wandering around willy-nilly himself. <br /><br />I'd say, if you need to be monitored after being on the same plane, you need to be monitored after being in the F'ing HOUSE where it all started.<br /><br />If this clown infects the whole emergency management hierarchy Dallas is even more F'd.<br /><br />Don't get me wrong, I think this is one of the only times where such actions are justifiable, but they need to be applied to everyone, and not exempt the "only ones."<br /><br /><br />On another note, there are currently between 100 and 150 people a day entering the US from the 3 most affected countries. If stopping 150 people from entering (with a travel ban) will destroy Africa's economy, it is already destroyed. Walk away.<br /><br />And... we need to be hammering at Lurie in public. Where is she, what's she doing, etc. NO NEW CZARS.<br /><br />nickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-50703871874903581042014-10-17T04:52:29.972-07:002014-10-17T04:52:29.972-07:00That's been an ongoing possibility since 1976....That's been an ongoing possibility since 1976.<br /><br />It doesn't explain anything about why we're following this quixotic quest to cure Africa, rather than concentrating on securing our own castle first.<br /><br />Should we send help?<br />Yes, absolutely, as much as we can.<br />Should we be letting passenger travel both ways continue outside strict military quarantine and supervision?<br />Hell no.<br />Should we focus most of our efforts on stopping it there, rather than preparedness here?<br />Hell no.<br /><br />I laid out yesterday why trying to vaccinate our way out of the crisis there is doomed to failure.<br /><br />If we do get a vaccine, the first 316M does should go here, if only because we're not the ignorant fuckwits who eat bats and kiss corpses amidst an epidemic that lives in bats and corpses.<br />And another 50 doses should go to each of any other country with the ability to replicate the vaccine and take care of their own people as well. <br />And then we can start worrying about saving the windowlickers of humanity from centuries of living in the most backwards and superstitious manner since, apparently, some of us were hunting saber-toothed cats with stone weapons and pointy sticks.<br /><br />But we don't accomplish that by pulling our pants down and inviting the disease over here to have its way with us, which is what the current stratagem is all about.<br /><br />And if we never get a functional vaccine (a very likely outcome) then a quarantine moat is the ONLY way to protect ourselves, and it's the one thing we aren't doing at all.<br /><br />That is simply pure insanity.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-35139146326307155892014-10-17T04:24:19.421-07:002014-10-17T04:24:19.421-07:00My theory on this deployment is that there is a re...My theory on this deployment is that there is a real fear that some bad actors will attempt to capture the virus and weaponize it. This WMD capability would outflank all efforts to stop radioactive "dirty bombs" with undetectable virus generators. The regime knows the math. However if you are going to operate in that area trying to interdict said actors, this is the type of support one might require to sustain such an effort. I believe everything else said is a smokescreen as the explanations do not make sense. Modern society in the West is fragile and increasingly vulnerable to this type of attack. As governmental structures continue to fail in West Africa, groups such as Boko Haram could serve as a conduit into afflicted regions. The possibilities are endless. If this were to occur, infection rates in the West would skyrocket, economies would tumble, and martial law would be implemented throughout. I will let others theorize if this is all self-induced. Given the widespread chaos that would ensue, this would be a tempting target for those inclined to seize such an opportunity. -D CloseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com