tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post9090149794201917828..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Still An @$$ClownAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-29773036083386186572014-11-19T21:05:34.154-08:002014-11-19T21:05:34.154-08:00Hey I live up here in North Dakota and we surely d...Hey I live up here in North Dakota and we surely do not want that jackhole in our state. What did we do to you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39798398126428679462014-11-18T14:20:04.023-08:002014-11-18T14:20:04.023-08:00Costs at a non-NYC hospital.
'“At UNMC, it h...Costs at a non-NYC hospital. <br /><br />'<i>“<a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/cost-treat-ebola-1-million-two-patients-n250986" rel="nofollow">At UNMC</a>, it has cost around $1.16 million to treat the two patients directed to us by the federal government. Treatment costs vary based on the severity of the patient when they arrive, but the cost is well beyond the normal costs incurred for an intensive care patient,” the school’s chancellor, Dr. Jeffrey Gold, said in prepared testimony for a hearing of the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s oversight subcommittee.<br /><br />“In addition to the direct costs, we also take additional beds in the ward out of service when an Ebola patient is being treated which is a direct financial cost to the hospital. We estimate having to take those additional beds out of service has cost $148,000 so far.” </i>'<br /><br />Not the 20 million, but then they will say they didn't have to track down over 300 people either though that is a bit thin as an excuse.geoffbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13938430350029694575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-56447571231462871012014-11-17T18:59:03.053-08:002014-11-17T18:59:03.053-08:00"@Miles:
$20M is re-cock-ulous! Work out how ..."@Miles:<br />$20M is re-cock-ulous! Work out how many days he was hospitalized, and divide that number onto $20M, and you'd get something like $1M/day; if any ICU was spending that amount, that hospital would go bankrupt the week they opened.<br />What $20M represents is the opportunity costs for closing their entire hospital ICU to treat ONE guy, which means another 10-20 beds were empty every day he was there. IOW They didn't spend that amount on Spencer, but they certainly may have lost it by treating him there."<br /><br /><br />OK, That makes sense<br />Although not much else dealing with this does.Milesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-30130243077263779022014-11-17T15:18:04.827-08:002014-11-17T15:18:04.827-08:00Mali now attempting to place 442 people under surv...Mali now attempting to place <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-2837790/Mali-places-hundreds-watch-bid-stem-Ebola.html" rel="nofollow">442 people under surveillance</a> (whatever that means).<br /><br />More fun: <i>"Meanwhile, a cargo ship on its way from Guinea to Ukraine reported it had a crew member with possible symptoms of Ebola, and prepared to drop anchor off Athens so doctors could board to examine him."</i><br /><br /><i>And in Guinea, the United Nations envoy charged with leading the Ebola response in that country, Rwandan national Marcel Rudasingwa, died on Monday.</i><br /><br />Lastly: <i>"Dr. Salia was extremely critical when he arrived here, and unfortunately, despite our best efforts, we weren't able to save him," said Phil Smith, medical director of the bio-containment unit at the University of Nebraska Medical Center.</i><br /><br />You did the best you could, Doc, given that the REMFs took their jolly sweet time getting the patient on a plane. When seconds counted, they had days to waste.<br /><br /><i>In Washington, the White House extended condolences to the doctors family, praising him as a man who "dedicated his life to saving others."</i><br /><br />...so, it's what? 0-2 now for saving the lives of black guys?<br /><br />When we get to, say, 0-4, the ulterior motives of the Shadow Party scum running the Obama Administration behind-the-scenes will be realized: smearing the US as racist while simultaneously advancing their covert depopulation agenda.<br /><br />Dissipation, dissipation, dissipation.Bezzlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12752975251705231877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-73154616483141552902014-11-17T12:47:04.246-08:002014-11-17T12:47:04.246-08:00Which is why I'm calling "BS" on tha...Which is why I'm calling "BS" on that number.<br />That's Schumer gilding the lily, SOP for a federal bill.<br />We run a 50+ bed ER with 200 people 24/7/forever, on one helluva lot less than $20M/yr.<br /><br />Like I said, Bellevue may have eaten a few $Mil in <i>billable care</i>, but no way in hell did they <i>spend</i> $20M on that dickhead.<br /><br />Even Steve Austin only cost ABC TV $6Million, back in the day.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-28354761831610075282014-11-17T12:29:05.529-08:002014-11-17T12:29:05.529-08:00From this story they had 600 people on this for 21...From<a href="http://nypost.com/2014/11/16/schumer-to-obama-reimburse-nyc-for-20m-ebola-treatment/" rel="nofollow"> this</a> story they had 600 people on this for 21 days. Allowing one million for actual hospital expenses and costs other than people, which is a bit since Germany did theirs for $500,000 total for all care of a much sicker patient, that is 600 people for 21 days, 100,800 man hours. divide 19 million by 100,800 and we get $188.49 per hour. not bad pay.<br /><br />geoffbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13938430350029694575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-78154544268811039002014-11-17T12:12:32.622-08:002014-11-17T12:12:32.622-08:00"he wishes he knew back then what he knows no..."he wishes he knew back then what he knows now??" that's odd-- I'm a little old gray haired lady and I KNEW BACK THEN that he was f-- up! How come he didn't know??!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-31149850385370801532014-11-17T11:51:18.667-08:002014-11-17T11:51:18.667-08:00Noted.
So he's dead.
He was a sideshow at best...Noted.<br />So he's dead.<br />He was a sideshow at best, unless U NE or someone else screws up, and he becomes the source of a new outbreak.<br /><br />Other than to his family and friends, his journey here, and even his passing, isn't particularly noteworthy.<br /><br />It just means Sierra Leone is another doctor short.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-15316903120065733202014-11-17T11:03:21.179-08:002014-11-17T11:03:21.179-08:00http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-17/ebola-inf...http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-17/ebola-infected-doctor-dies-nebraska-medical-centerCapitalist Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01880442237757675046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-81459000435584655022014-11-17T10:26:12.712-08:002014-11-17T10:26:12.712-08:00@Wilburr
While comparing Frieden to them may requi...@Wilburr<br />While comparing Frieden to them may require that I apologize to both veterinarians and ordinary @$$clowns, I think he has it in him to be a vet; after all, he's already made it through medical school. I just want him somewhere such that his next screw up will only risk pets, rather than people.<br />@Miles:<br />$20M is re-cock-ulous! Work out how many days he was hospitalized, and divide that number onto $20M, and you'd get something like $1M/day; if any ICU was spending that amount, that hospital would go bankrupt the week they opened.<br />What $20M represents is the opportunity costs for <b>closing their entire hospital ICU to treat ONE guy</b>, which means another 10-20 beds were <i>empty</i> every day he was there. IOW They didn't spend that amount on Spencer, but they certainly may have lost it by treating him there.<br /><br />As for policy, the best way not to get more of that, is not to subsidize it.<br />If hospitals know they're on the hook for all costs, that'll be the end of people working in Ebolaville, and the end of US hospitals caring for them once they become infected, and thus the end of transporting them there, or back here in the first place. Win-win-win.<br />Congress needs to publicly tell Bellevue to piss up a rope for that money, in order to get that ball rolling. <br />Send the bill to Dr. Spencer, and tell him he's working at half salary at Bellevue until his debts are paid off. That would be 20 years paying half of a notional $200K/yr., normal annual gross for a ER doc like he is, and they could use the help.<br />And he can write it off on his taxes for that entire time under current IRS regs.<br />So make that win-win-win-win-win.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63548468671244893432014-11-17T07:00:36.158-08:002014-11-17T07:00:36.158-08:00Good post but a tiny FYI... I know you are being s...Good post but a tiny FYI... I know you are being snarky but Veterinarians are pretty smart and talented. Every bit as the best human medicine counterpart. <br /><br />For example one needs better grades to get into veterinary med school than human medicine as there are a lot less schools with fierce competition for seats and they only take the cream of the crop. The curriculum is grueling and there are internships and residencies just like human medicine once one graduates.<br /><br />I come from a family with both types of doctors and this has been discussed quite a bit before!<br /><br />Anyway thanks and keep up the good work!Willburrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-54772215033716912522014-11-17T06:30:53.396-08:002014-11-17T06:30:53.396-08:00Aesop;
was going through the comments on the WaP...Aesop;<br /><br /> was going through the comments on the WaPo article.<br /><br />One part of one comment caught my eye.<br /><br />"By contrast, I am TOTALLY opposised (sic) to U.S. taxpayers being saddled with the $20 million cost for the NYC treatment of Dr. Craig SPENCER as Senator Chuck SCHUMER is now demanding."<br /><br />If true,(and how can the accuracy be determined - perhaps your contacts in the med field?) now we have a SWAG on how much a single patient with Ebola can cost a hospital.<br /><br />Milesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-38627692161749434382014-11-17T06:02:19.178-08:002014-11-17T06:02:19.178-08:00Here's the lastest blurb on the doctor's d...Here's the lastest blurb on the doctor's death.<br /><br />http://www.foxnews.com/health/2014/11/17/surgeon-who-contracted-ebola-virus-in-sierra-leone-dies-at-nebraska-hospital/<br /><br />Here's an earlier one on how he was already sick and showing some symptoms, tested negative, then how it went downhill from there.<br /><br /><br />http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-doctors-mistaken-ebola-test-we-were-celebrating--then-everything-fell-apart/2014/11/16/946a84da-6dd5-11e4-a2c2-478179fd0489_story.html<br /><br />Hopefully some of these people over here will open their eyes and understand how this can go very wrong, very quickly.Milesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-87203680861855714572014-11-17T05:50:51.686-08:002014-11-17T05:50:51.686-08:00Martin Salia MD, dead of ebola in Nebraska. More l...Martin Salia MD, dead of ebola in Nebraska. More lawsuits from Jesse Jackson in 3,2,1...Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613890024247909200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-13678272292867933142014-11-17T03:18:37.074-08:002014-11-17T03:18:37.074-08:00Of interest, now that Ebola is galloping through M...Of interest, now that Ebola is galloping through Muslim regions: what would evil people with an infectious disease? -- There's no need to guess.<br /><br /><b><a href="http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-7-biggest-dick-moves-in-history-online-gaming/" rel="nofollow">The Corrupted Blood Plague (World of Warcraft)</a></b><br /><br /><i>In 2005, Blizzard added a new boss with a hit-point draining spell that effected anyone standing directly next to him. Since stepping to the boss meant you were probably about to die anyway, they saw no harm in making the spell contagious. ...But players soon worked out how to teleport the plague out of the dungeon and into the real (fake) world. An MMORPG pandemic was born.</i><br /><br /><i>The hit-points it took away were enough to instantly kill low level players, so high-level players immediately started teleporting around the map as much as possible. Because if there's one thing World of Warcraft players hate more than people who don't play, it's people who do play but not as much as them. <br /><br />The plague killed new players, old players; it even infected non-player characters who couldn't get sick but acted as carriers -- so talking to an innkeeper could infect and kill you.</i><br /><br /><i>It was also revealing: In a game where people can be heroic knights or masterful mages, many leaped at the chance to become Terrorist Tyhpoid Mary. A small Taliban like force of plague-carriers actively fought Blizzard while hiding in the mountains, breaking quarantines and even incubating the plague through server-purges by infecting their own virtual pets then re-infecting themselves. They forced Blizzard into hard server resets, nuking and reinstalling their entire world. It was douchebaggery on measurable scientific and national security scales: Real-life scientists and bioterrorism experts now study it as a case example.</i><br />Bezzlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12752975251705231877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-47164196070365618992014-11-16T16:45:40.736-08:002014-11-16T16:45:40.736-08:00Has no one at the CDC read The Hot Zone? They are ...Has no one at the CDC read The Hot Zone? They are worse than incompetent.TXMomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63897788289542822092014-11-16T16:02:13.414-08:002014-11-16T16:02:13.414-08:00Aesop, I'm convinced it's a masquerade. In...Aesop, I'm convinced it's a masquerade. Incompetence is only a feint, whereas in actuality these guys are old-line eugenicists for whom "depopulation" is a primary goal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39471074136521246082014-11-16T15:16:42.982-08:002014-11-16T15:16:42.982-08:00I must say, I was...underwhelmed...with the CDC...I must say, I was...underwhelmed...with the CDC's response. A quiet retirement should be in the works. He can live next door to the jackhole at MIT who is so proud of lying to the stupid 'murricans to have Obamacare passed. That way we will only need 1 road trip and 2 Molotovs...Grouch, MDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10223794580842414136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-4662752559667149792014-11-16T15:07:18.612-08:002014-11-16T15:07:18.612-08:00The most maddening thing is hearing the "publ...The most maddening thing is hearing the "public health experts" dismissing quarantine in <i>exactly the same terms</i> it was dismissed 100 years ago, ahead of and during the Spanish Flu. This is the clue that they are not scientists, not medical experts, but first and foremost "progressives", as that pack of clowns believe they are omnipotent, omniscient, and their personal prejudices are a better indicator of what will work than actual results.Rob Crawfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03010767328260010949noreply@blogger.com