tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post7268399698837315438..comments2024-03-28T05:23:48.416-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Mene, Mene, Tekel UpharsinAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-33906545721703414362017-05-04T13:23:00.753-07:002017-05-04T13:23:00.753-07:00Look harder. Neutrality is a myth.
Police who myo...Look harder. Neutrality is a myth.<br /><br />Police who myopically think they took an oath to uphold their pensions rather than constitutions are going to run smack into the wall of reality.<br /><br />And then they'll be stood up against it.<br /><br />Ain't going to be any forgiving and forgetting.<br />And what they're doing so far is more akin to standing by and watching <i>kristallnacht</i>. Some cities get that. Berkeley doesn't.<br />Imagination is a poor defense against reality.<br /><br />Long before we get to the trains and camps stage, the police will already be dead.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-76442727968478249342017-05-04T11:22:39.471-07:002017-05-04T11:22:39.471-07:00It could happen, Aesop. I find it difficult to ima...It could happen, Aesop. I find it difficult to imagine it happening in the US. <br /><br />For one thing, there is no obligation for the police to step in and help you. That's different from, say, the police helping round up the Juden for shipping.<br /><br />Yes, they're whores. They are a very different breed of man from what they were in 1970. This is deliberate; the recruiting standards have changed greatly. They also have an "us versus them" attitude inculcated during training, and afterward. This could lead to the result you envision (if you haven't read it, Radley Balko's <i>The Rise of the Warrior Cop </i> is very interesting.<br /><br />Still, I suspect they really don't think that they are vulnerable. Of course, police are a very thin line, and would be crushed quickly if the population rose up. I think the cops forget that, until they are vulnerable, such as in a riot.<br /><br />But for what you suggest to happen--well, I don't see it. I can see them recognizing that civil order is gone, and that the local government is being killed off, and staying in the stations while that happens. But the citizenry stringing up the cops? Only if the cops fire on the citizens.<br /><br />Gordon Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16772014586181361069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-73793804154296313852017-05-04T07:28:42.964-07:002017-05-04T07:28:42.964-07:00Got it, Gordon: They're merely whores, "j...Got it, Gordon: They're merely whores, "just following orders".<br />Say, how'd that line work out in 1946?<br /><br />Just wondering.<br /><br />When the public has had enough of the <i>polizei</i> (and they <i>always</i> reach that point), the reckoning is usually a formal affair, with the guests of honor wearing hemp neckties for the occasion.<br />And the dancing usually takes place several feet above the ground.<br /><br /><i>Dulce et decorum est...</i>Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-53277220351749043582017-05-04T06:28:01.959-07:002017-05-04T06:28:01.959-07:00There are some basic facts that everyone needs to ...There are some basic facts that everyone needs to understand regarding the police and what they will and won't do:<br /><br />The police chief works at the pleasure of the mayor. The officers work at the pleasure of the chief. Sheriffs are elected and can operate on their own; police chiefs are appointed and must take orders.<br /><br />Police officers are well paid, with lots of opportunity for lucrative overtime. But the real prize is the pension. It comes early, after as little as 20 years, and it's generous (and that overtime pads the pension, too). There are retired cops in California pulling down over $100,000 a year in pension.<br /><br />Neither the chief or the beat cops are going to put that pension at risk, no matter what their personal opinions are. We have seen it too many times already in Portland, Seattle, Minneapolis and Berkeley. The mayor passes the word, orally, for the cops to stand back. The cops stand back. Sure, they might react if someone started shooting, but someone being beaten? Shoulda stayed home, dude. We have our orders.<br /><br />It is not 1968, and big city mayors are not Frank Rizzo, or Dick Daley. They are all lefties, and left lefties at that. they are content to see Trump people beaten up. Trump people do not live in Minneapolis, and they aren't wanted there. They mayors are sure of this because no one they know supported Trump.<br /><br />You cannot count on the police. You can spin all of the "we have more guns and ammo" scenarios you like, but the cops won't believe you. They do believe in that pension, though.Gordon Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16772014586181361069noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-28549052751684750992017-04-17T13:50:27.532-07:002017-04-17T13:50:27.532-07:00Yeah, the locals here got their collectives @$$#$ ...Yeah, the locals here got their collectives @$$#$ kicked in HB last month, and haven't shown much enthusiasm for another sparring match starring as the punching bag since then.<br />Hopefully that's a continuing trend.<br /><br />The good news is that every time they show up, for every person they muster, they convert five people watching to leave their side and join ours.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-79124597288524890242017-04-17T13:07:15.059-07:002017-04-17T13:07:15.059-07:00I've been monitoring these scrote locals via t...I've been monitoring these scrote locals via their indivisible web site and they've managed to keep a half dozen Facebook and blog sites updated through the first week of April. I'm very disappointed, other than some coffee talk in a few of the university towns these guys are really goldbricking it. LFMayornoreply@blogger.com