tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post6593354402251919601..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Water, ReduxAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-86632161555294625422014-11-11T10:48:03.306-08:002014-11-11T10:48:03.306-08:00Gamegetter, sorry about the delay, been a few days...Gamegetter, sorry about the delay, been a few days since I'd looked at this post. The picture at amazon doesn't currently show the valve, but the description includes it, and the one I bought had it. <br />http://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Water-Filter-Kit-Just/dp/B007HUYGNS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1415731394&sr=8-4&keywords=ceramic+filterBikermailmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778924245670333118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-49624159930778043032014-11-11T09:07:43.167-08:002014-11-11T09:07:43.167-08:00Wow Aesop, you are getting wide enough distributio...Wow Aesop, you are getting wide enough distribution that companies are noticing.<br /><br />Cool. <br /><br />It's important to keep this in front of people.<br /><br />nickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-35435606046751319252014-11-11T05:31:10.719-08:002014-11-11T05:31:10.719-08:00Aesop,
Thanks for including SteriPEN! Glad to see...Aesop, <br />Thanks for including SteriPEN! Glad to see our handheld water purifiers listed as one of the options. Noticed you link to SteriPEN Traveler on Amazon and wondered if you might consider linking to <b><a href="http://www.steripen.com" rel="nofollow">SteriPEN.com</a></b> also. The Traveler model you linked to on Amazon will be replaced by another model that can operate using Alkaline batteries, as well as lithium, in 2015.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-16529706508874236942014-11-10T13:22:49.432-08:002014-11-10T13:22:49.432-08:00A home filtration system is great, but typically r...A home filtration system is great, but typically relies on a pressurized mainline system, whether municipal or home well.<br />For someone in the 'burbs, hoping the water pressure stays on is not a long-term great idea.<br /><br />At the very least, a method of adapting one's built-in system for use disconnected from the water supply grid would be prudent. You're also dependent on a supply of proprietary filter modules which may not be readily available to be separately acquired or backstocked on site.<br /><br />Like any other option, you have to stay three jumps ahead of the failure points.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-36083075017165057412014-11-10T11:42:30.534-08:002014-11-10T11:42:30.534-08:00These are all good ways to get the best source of ...These are all good ways to get the best source of water out of the circumstances. Sometimes, knowing these things can make a difference. However, it may not be worth doing most of these everyday, as some are labor intensive. So if you're not into bottled water, investing in a filtration system might do the trick. You could have homemade purified water, without the enviromental effects of bottled water. Thanks for sharing!<br /><br><a href="http://axeonwater.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-vital-science-of-water-purification.html" rel="nofollow">Verna Griffin @ Axeon Water Technologies</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11094251016395098544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-7828116086990273182014-11-10T08:27:34.477-08:002014-11-10T08:27:34.477-08:00Brita filter is granules of carbon. Fresh carbon f...Brita filter is granules of carbon. Fresh carbon filter will do a good job on Volatile Organic Compounds (pesticides, some solvents)found in Municipal Water (alleged by Water Dept. as safe). Taste is improved not only in water, but is a fine way to "upgrade" the cheapest vodka. <br /><br />Nice article. The series might be known as "Hazards of Empire Failure".<br /><br />Most portable version is <br />START WITH THE BEST WATER-<br />1. Pre-filter: coffee filter/settling & decanting so that the fine-filter is not quickly jammed up. <br />2. Pump-type lightweight water filter with replaceable cartridges (Katadyne, MSR, don't go cheap here). Output will be (in most circumstances) drinkable. <br />3. Boil-in-pot. Cooling is a PITA (waaaah). Boiling blasts away solvents, kills bacteria/viruses. Pressure cookers (not-so-man-portable) get to +240F/+15psi-g at sea level and may be critical at altitude to get enough temperature. Don't burn yer self. <br />3a. Distillation. Very-bad pond-water/brackish-water can be made drinkable with batch or continuous process. Starting with the best available water is still a good thing. Inputs are time, energy, and fixtures. Low-energy-input distillation gives tiny clean-water output, but may be useful over a long period in a safe fixed location (passive solar 'still). <br />3b. Reverse Osmosis: really-great aboard a sailboat in salty-but-clean seawater. Needs significant power input (like refrigeration does), lots of water for flushing membrane (unlimited seawater), periodic semi-skilled maintenance (smart-user maintenance). High up-front costs. A model that might be found in a 42' sailboat may give a dozen gallons per hour, which is enough for careful use and topping tanks.<br />4. Chemical treatment: leaves bad chemicals in-place, neutralizes bacteria/virii. Start with the best "found" water, like catchment or clean glacier-ice. Chem's take time to kill bugs, and time also to allow chemical to dissipate so you can drink. <br /><br />***There is no such thing as sufficient water-paranoia.***<br /> <br />Because Giardia at Ross Dam:<br /> I didn't die and had to walk home with my filthy tent/bag/pack. No medical treatment needed, but I started healthy/young and went home to clean water/bed/good food/Mom. Start tired/weak/sick/unsupported and it could be the end. <br /><br />pdxr13Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-84772030664240730482014-11-10T06:28:16.501-08:002014-11-10T06:28:16.501-08:00I ordered a box of 24 1-pound bags of calcium hypo...I ordered a box of 24 1-pound bags of calcium hypochlorite. Moisture stays out of the unopened bags, and you can hand them out as party favors:<br /><br />http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B003BPNHV0/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1Nimrodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-36944365778221005952014-11-09T15:23:44.623-08:002014-11-09T15:23:44.623-08:00Yes, as Anon at 6:25 said, it is calcium hypochlor...Yes, as Anon at 6:25 said, it is calcium hypochlorite that is the proper choice for making your own bleach. It can also be purchased in bulk from gardening/hydroponics companies through Amazon:<br /><br />http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H9WO3GY/ref=ox_ya_os_product_refresh_T1Reg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-46864356837988809492014-11-09T13:15:25.854-08:002014-11-09T13:15:25.854-08:00It's an FDA and DEA controlled substance.
The ...It's an FDA and DEA controlled substance.<br />The kindly old fart/chemist who invented Polar Pure was virtually shut down by them on contentions that meth-heads were using the iodine crystals to cook meth.<br />http://www.mercurynews.com/saratoga/ci_19385037<br />Government retards, doing what they do best.<br /><br />It took a couple of years of legal wrangling to get the product back on the shelves, so you won't be buying the iodine crystals yourself anytime soon.<br /><br />Stock up on a few bottles of Polar Pure now while you can.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-10851294204665000892014-11-09T12:51:33.385-08:002014-11-09T12:51:33.385-08:00Who sells iodine crystals? Is that a pharmacy ite...Who sells iodine crystals? Is that a pharmacy item? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-57650676078939499932014-11-09T08:10:04.225-08:002014-11-09T08:10:04.225-08:00Thank you brother for all you do. Grandpa has pass...Thank you brother for all you do. Grandpa has passed all your info down to the family/tribe/clan. Great reading and good to store in the mind, where the usurpers cannot get it... Although "happy" and "wage slave" should not be used in the same sentence, thankfully I am employed, regretfully too many I don't know have fingers in my $. Too common today... sfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-54472141376497328582014-11-09T06:25:18.493-08:002014-11-09T06:25:18.493-08:00Might want to check the information no type of ble...Might want to check the information no type of bleach (pool shock)... not Sodium (Na) Hypochlorite, but Calcium (Ca) Hypochlorite is what you want to use.<br /><br />Calcium Hypochlorite is the type of pool shock that is safe for human consumption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-1272884635556890392014-11-08T22:58:51.560-08:002014-11-08T22:58:51.560-08:00So much useful information. Thank you!
And I'...So much useful information. Thank you!<br /><br />And I'm glad you're all right.<br /><br />DeniseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-49725157225882957632014-11-08T07:31:05.337-08:002014-11-08T07:31:05.337-08:00@Hillbillygirl,
Ignore the first post, which redi...@Hillbillygirl,<br /><br />Ignore the first post, which redirects you to a wordpress site that no longer exists. Instead, just scroll down and enjoy Nightjack posts. It appears that he captured a good chunk of Nightjack's stuff.Buckaroonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-62550624834143686242014-11-07T18:06:04.539-08:002014-11-07T18:06:04.539-08:00Keith Pearson
Which ceramic filter from Amazon?
Keith Pearson<br /><br />Which ceramic filter from Amazon?<br />GamegetterIIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11963151027331481180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-20337382297760938472014-11-07T18:00:06.308-08:002014-11-07T18:00:06.308-08:00That's what Kool-aid and Gatorade packets are ...That's what Kool-aid and Gatorade packets are for. ;)<br /><br />It's still chemical disinfection.<br />The problems with military stuff is it gets old, has a shelf life, etc.<br />Polar Pure lasts literally longer than you or I will.<br /><br />@JayJay<br />Yeah, chance of cancer in 20-40 years, vs. certainty of death from no water in 4-7 days.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-61818219867488386702014-11-07T16:41:47.530-08:002014-11-07T16:41:47.530-08:00As to taste of water when in the field,back when I...As to taste of water when in the field,back when I was in the AF I carried life savers (partial to cherry) and dropped one in a 2 qt canteen with the issued water purification tablets*. Made it somewhat more palatable. <br /><br />*IIRC those tablets were iodine based. Does that tie into your paragraph on iodine crystals?RandyGChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758726126424011542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-18365226638861495472014-11-07T15:29:46.144-08:002014-11-07T15:29:46.144-08:00JayJay,
Carcinogens might be present in the plast...JayJay,<br /><br />Carcinogens might be present in the plaster, might leach into the water, and the carcinogens might kill you if you live long enough. This is a 1st World problem.<br /><br />In the 3rd World, the possible to likely cholera, parasites, dysentery, etc., in the water will kill you well before any cancer does. Same with a bad disaster here in the 1st World.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-69985397939861478092014-11-07T14:46:33.425-08:002014-11-07T14:46:33.425-08:00thanks for the timely post. thanks for the timely post. Ex-Dissidenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03837109472357860889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-84281281532576991072014-11-07T12:34:59.437-08:002014-11-07T12:34:59.437-08:00RE: Cousin Jed's filter. You can get a cerami...RE: Cousin Jed's filter. You can get a ceramic filter + hardware (washers, valve, etc) at Amazon for ~$40. Connect your buckets with the filter on top, and in the top bucket do the charcoal and various aggregate sizes. Gets both filtering and purifying done in one step.Bikermailmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09778924245670333118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-47077394425672749322014-11-07T12:22:21.800-08:002014-11-07T12:22:21.800-08:0011:44 - I suspect the water treatment lets them li...11:44 - I suspect the water treatment lets them live long enough that they might have to worry about cancer. Not exactly ideal, But better than dying of something else sooner.<br /><br />About the solar stills - I always wondered if the improv hole in the ground type weren't intended more to nail a lost hiker down to one place and make them easier to find than if they moved around. Never heard of anyone actually building them and finding them really worthwhile. Lots of work, very little water very slowly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-41613137406179187512014-11-07T11:51:46.602-08:002014-11-07T11:51:46.602-08:00If needed, the simple directions for filtering wit...If needed, the simple directions for filtering with CH(pool shock):<br />1 to 2, then 2 to 1<br />1 heaping teaspoon of CH to a 2 liter of clean water to make the solution<br />then, 2 tablespoons of solution to 1 gallon of water needing filtered<br />(use stored tang, instant coffee, instant tea, or fruit mixes if needed)<br /><br />1 to 2, then 2 to 1<br /><br />JayJayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-60387591658626233052014-11-07T11:44:21.701-08:002014-11-07T11:44:21.701-08:00Whoa!! We're warned of carcinogens consumed by...Whoa!! We're warned of carcinogens consumed by drinking from plastic water bottles left in the sun, but other countries can leave in the sun and not get carcinogens from their plastic??<br />JayJayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-60022125965100019412014-11-07T11:02:00.025-08:002014-11-07T11:02:00.025-08:00Buckaroo, thanks, but it appears to be gone from t...Buckaroo, thanks, but it appears to be gone from there as well. scrubbed clean by big brother. I'm kicking myself for not copying some of it, as he wrote so eloquently about a lot of the issues we have in other arenas here as well, ie., healthcare.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613890024247909200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-55794219783539229102014-11-07T10:02:05.078-08:002014-11-07T10:02:05.078-08:00@Hillbillygirl,
Here is at least a partial archiv...@Hillbillygirl,<br /><br />Here is at least a partial archive of Nightjack's old blog<br /><br />http://nightjackarchive.blogspot.comBuckaroonoreply@blogger.com