tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post6523474724916568323..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Mutant Zombie BikersAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-55118922522310403162014-07-25T21:47:16.336-07:002014-07-25T21:47:16.336-07:00Thanks for the reality break.Thanks for the reality break.amphibspookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18379385633613114402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-89644175293525631422014-07-25T19:22:31.325-07:002014-07-25T19:22:31.325-07:00I love what you do here. It is an absolute pleasur...I love what you do here. It is an absolute pleasure to visit. Thank you for your time. I write for a living, so I have a pretty good idea of how much time you invest here and I want you to know I do appreciate it. I wish you well on the other side of what's to come.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br /><br />Sharon SecorSharon Secorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10395624563559806391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-14788017436215556222014-07-25T18:39:57.793-07:002014-07-25T18:39:57.793-07:00I hope you are right, and tend to think you may be...I hope you are right, and tend to think you may be. But I also fear you may be wrong. Funny thing about the future--even our best guess is still only a guess. <br /><br /> It's going to be a crazy time either way, and I for one will continue to expect the best, and prepare for the worst. Your posts on the subject provide a useful point of view. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-15541744303636284902014-07-24T13:43:59.356-07:002014-07-24T13:43:59.356-07:00The Anonymous rants overlook that they're posi...The Anonymous rants overlook that they're positing that things that apply <i>with through the acquiescence/studied incompetence of the government now</i> will still somehow magically continue when the government has devolved to being the local town council, the sheriff of same, or the guy on the street whose business, home, and family are directly imminently threatened.<br /><br />That's simply delusional.<br /><br />You also keep pointing to other places in the world where gangs and warlords thrive - in the universal absence of an armed population, a tradition of free self-government, or any long history of self-reliance and personal liberty.<br /><br />None of which applies here.<br />The Asian transplants Columbus found when he arrived here had a tribal structure. The Spanish, and later other cultures, arrived with both weapons and civilized community.<br /><br />So who won that one?<br /><br />Five seconds after the ACLU is a memory, it will be open season on bandits pretty much anywhere, on sight and where found, and the places you think they'll thrive have no means to sustain them. Even cannibals run out of things to eat eventually.<br /><br />And the government forces hate competition.<br /><br />You're barking at the moon.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-44402225579724485852014-07-24T12:14:41.587-07:002014-07-24T12:14:41.587-07:00WORDWORDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-6980650052747789942014-07-24T12:05:04.858-07:002014-07-24T12:05:04.858-07:00Gangs do not get shot down/wiped out or any other ...Gangs do not get shot down/wiped out or any other such nonsense. If stability is regained they are simply called something else....Barons are warlords....maybe if you call them regional public administrators you would feel better? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-65480754176882726482014-07-24T11:58:28.171-07:002014-07-24T11:58:28.171-07:00It's not exactly historically accurate to say ...It's not exactly historically accurate to say that outlaws would simply be shot down. Yes, they would *eventually* get wiped out, and would likely have short careers on an individual level, but outlaw gangs and pirates historically did have successful runs.<br /><br />They simply face the problem of having to be lucky every time, whereas their opponents only have to be lucky once - the James/Younger gang's raid on Northfield is a prime example.Jimmy the Saintnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-60430740081844737212014-07-24T11:43:55.687-07:002014-07-24T11:43:55.687-07:00Not only are you wrong but you are dead wrong.
Fi...Not only are you wrong but you are dead wrong.<br /><br />First off look at the gangs that exist. They are structured, organized, so organized that their leaders can control them from inside prison. They deal in violence, they obey, they are armed.<br /><br />And standing against them are a sniveling pack of girl scouts who can't agree if a flagpole should be allowed in someone's front yard? By people who don't know how to make water potable, or have ever touched a gun, much less used one.<br /><br />With only five days food supplies in most stores, what do you think will happen, not in prisons, when the food runs out? A huge neighborhood watch armed to the teeth ready to cooperate and work together?<br /><br />Dream on, most people can't tell you who lives three houses down. They have little knowledge and less preparation for a disaster.<br /><br />If the police and authorities didn't exist, ie southside Chicago, what would you do if 20 armed individuals appeared before your home? Forgive me if I am not impressed by your scenario. I've seen communities in warzones, I know how they operate.<br /><br />At the end times, people will unite under a strong leader who has the skills, ability, and wit to persuade people he can get them through a disaster. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-70296168543346129072014-07-24T11:41:29.004-07:002014-07-24T11:41:29.004-07:00the fundamental unit of male organization is the G...the fundamental unit of male organization is the GANG. Not the organized city state. 1066 was the battle of hastings...when the Normans invaded..they damn near lost but what followed was not civilization...it was baronial rule..and tenuous at best. <br />A better guide to collapse is perhaps the 400 year run of the border reiver cultures of the Scots/English Marches....and that was entirely "tribal".<br /><br />As this collapse proceeds you will not see organized city states existing for long...we will rapidly collapse to the level of baronial rule (warlords) or tribalism...."Clans".<br /><br />The center will not hold I fear....<br /><br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-25122404682813745882014-07-24T11:13:53.178-07:002014-07-24T11:13:53.178-07:00Thanks Baron. I knew that, but biffed it. Fixed no...Thanks Baron. I knew that, but biffed it. Fixed now.<br /><br />And GreenEyedJinn, you clearly haven't spent any time on the Southern border. Much like the US Army in South Korea, the main reason the Border Patrol is there is to protect the cartel coyotes and their migrant mules from the wrath of the local inhabitants, not the other way around. The residents tolerate the pretense of law enforcement there because government, such as it is, still exists.<br /><br />Five seconds after that is no longer operative, and possibly sooner despite that, the area will become a free-fire zone, and I assure you the <i>last</i> place you want to be is between any of 10,000 border inhabitants and the beaten zone from their musketry.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-16548829864795580382014-07-24T10:43:56.281-07:002014-07-24T10:43:56.281-07:00Excellent work! I agree 100%.
A minor factual cor...Excellent work! I agree 100%.<br /><br />A minor factual correction: the Lost Colony wasn't at Jamestown (Virginia), it was at Roanoke Island near Manteo, N.C. The colony disappeared between 1587 and 1590, when English ships were unable to resupply it, due to the war with Spain.<br /><br />The Jamestown colony (1607) was a commercial operation for the Virginia Company, and managed to survive, although just barely.Baron Bodisseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13518154807805363319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-24761353751447089012014-07-24T09:49:38.494-07:002014-07-24T09:49:38.494-07:00The situation along our southern border with the d...The situation along our southern border with the drug/crime cartels doesn't quite fit in this analysis. And one of the other problems that come along with city-states are noblemen and tyrants.<br />I seem to remember the term "Mutant Biker Zombie" (MZB) was coined in David Crawford's "Lights Out." I think that story was a good read and sort of straddles your post and the concept of a Mad Max world.GreenEyedJinnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00995782316684453263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-12959115787526514002014-07-24T08:50:37.293-07:002014-07-24T08:50:37.293-07:00Much of what is said here is true. The first thin...Much of what is said here is true. The first thing I will do is join the local sheriff's militia to protect my local community. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39417433866338640762014-07-24T08:24:26.142-07:002014-07-24T08:24:26.142-07:00Yes, indeed, Topeka or Spokane might do as you say...Yes, indeed, Topeka or Spokane might do as you say. But the hive dwellers in Seattle or Chicago or the Big Crapple or most any other major hive would instead fit right in. Do note that the Right People would be protected, of course. Just as they are now in Somalia et al...Mark Matisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-82019751874696493072014-07-24T07:27:08.134-07:002014-07-24T07:27:08.134-07:00I disagree with your analogy.
WAR LORDS,organized...I disagree with your analogy. <br />WAR LORDS,organized cartels. Gangs seems so...Rudimentary. Whenever a profit is to be had, crime will exist. With out rule of law organized crime will flourish as in Somalia and Central America. Biker gangs are in fact "Well Organized" <br /> Why wouldn't they prevail in their A.O. The "James gang" did quite well for 10 years during the reconstruction period. Hillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209578862995019952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-28986277373636160092014-07-24T07:12:04.175-07:002014-07-24T07:12:04.175-07:00Best post I've read in a long time! ThanksBest post I've read in a long time! ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-82350927444660145622014-07-24T07:01:59.125-07:002014-07-24T07:01:59.125-07:00While I tend to agree with your assessment I don&#...While I tend to agree with your assessment I don't want to be the target that trips the rest of the community to the danger the gangs represent.<br /><br />Keep your powder dry.<br /><br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15708868713277676628noreply@blogger.com