tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post647626110457205485..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: File Under: Opioid Deaths - I Told You SoAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-84835395486409051642017-09-20T23:50:11.261-07:002017-09-20T23:50:11.261-07:00kirk,
In a previous post made by Aesop that'...kirk, <br /><br />In a previous post made by Aesop that's what I said might be happening if there was an opioid epidemic, (which he showed was not happening, at least not legal opoids) - that possibly people were seeking out the illegal ones in a desperate search for pain medication and accidentally overdosing. <br /><br />Apparently I was prognosticating.. who knew? They'll do these 32 investigations, slam doctors more than they are now, patients will suffer, and more people will die of opoids than ever before as they look to the streets for pain relief. <br /><br />It's easy to go after big pharma.. they pay and follow the rules, same as doctors. Drug dealers and makers of these horrid things, not so much. Government causes the problem, legal abiding people pay, and desperate people living in pain will pay with their lives. <br /><br />More brilliance from the folks in our government. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-14773534196402702342017-09-20T14:56:16.284-07:002017-09-20T14:56:16.284-07:00"That's a decimal migrating two or three ..."That's a decimal migrating two or three places the wrong way."<br /><br />Good thing I'm not a pharmacist! <br /><br />It's the same sort of exaggeration they use when announcing the "street value" of seizures. When you seize 200kg but use the street price for grams and just multiply, well, that ain't right. REALLY unlikely that the guy with hundreds of Kg is gonna cut and package out to 1/4 and 1/2 grams.....<br /><br />In any case, it's nasty stuff and you don't want to contact or ingest it.<br /><br />nAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-30322020173752131232017-09-20T14:18:12.281-07:002017-09-20T14:18:12.281-07:00Eaten, I suppose. Snorted, yes. The ones who want ...Eaten, I suppose. Snorted, yes. The ones who want to avoid the stigma of trackmarks and abcesses seem to prefer snorting it.Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613890024247909200noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-81981168358988305552017-09-20T14:04:01.171-07:002017-09-20T14:04:01.171-07:00I thought it was just my usual.
And Nick, 2-3 mg ...I thought it was just my usual.<br /><br />And Nick, 2-3 mg would be 2000-3000 micrograms.<br />That's a decimal migrating two or three places the wrong way.<br />Also assuming they were referring to acetyl fentanyl, and not to medical/pharmaceutical fentanyl.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-73801476839700846952017-09-20T13:56:01.671-07:002017-09-20T13:56:01.671-07:00Ay, Ye be in rare form today.Ay, Ye be in rare form today.Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05728311767575235395noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-73121658082823098272017-09-20T13:39:43.806-07:002017-09-20T13:39:43.806-07:00This is from a newsletter I get for first responde...This is from a newsletter I get for first responders:<br /><br />Fentanyl: A Briefng Guide for First Responders-<br /><br />https://content.govdelivery.com/attachments/USDHSFACIR/2017/06/08/file_attachments/828579/Fentanyl%2BGuide%2BPublic%2BFire%2BEMS%2BJune2017.pdf<br /><br />This is some nasty stuff.<br /><br /> “As matter of reference it has been<br /> determined that it would only take 2‐3<br /> milligrams of fentanyl to induce respiratory<br /> depression, arrest and possibly death (see<br /> photo of penny). When visually compared,<br /> 2 to 3 milligrams of fentanyl is about the<br /> same as five to seven individual grains of<br /> table salt”<br /><br /><br /><br />Sounds like a decimal place got moved...<br /><br />nickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-40275352537487470922017-09-20T12:52:36.207-07:002017-09-20T12:52:36.207-07:00"(Ask them to explain how legalizing bringing..."(Ask them to explain how legalizing bringing this sh*t into the country will result in less harm to society, after they've imported in a couple of duffel bags enough of their home-cooked crap to wipe out the entire population of NYFS and Pennsylvania."<br />You answered your own question<br />"Junkies OD = Darwin in action"<br />If enough of this stuff gets spread around, 2 things will happen. Either they die or they're too afraid of shooting up and will quit. <br />What's not to like?lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011213166003657827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-26011007835213606182017-09-20T12:28:42.117-07:002017-09-20T12:28:42.117-07:00Acetyl fentanyl, i.e. designer-drug home-cooked fe...Acetyl fentanyl, i.e. designer-drug home-cooked fentanyl, is <i><b>not</b></i> pharmaceutical-grade medicinal fentanyl that gets prescribed, in any sense.<br />Starting with the fact that all data on it is solely empirical, from the streets, where indeed one hit frequently kills you deader than canned tuna, frequently with the needle still sticking in your arm.<br /><br />I honestly don't know if it can be ingested with the same effect, but it's possible.<br /><br />The hearings into big pharma will provide grandstanding face time, while yet again attacking not-the-problem with the full fury of government legislative and bureaucratic incompetence.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-65089336158406920032017-09-20T11:36:16.559-07:002017-09-20T11:36:16.559-07:00I looked up fentanyl and the lowest dose product w...I looked up fentanyl and the lowest dose product was 100mcg. But any fentanyl was for use only on people already opiate tolerant with minimum doses a day listed. I'd say the cops math is off for addicts but who knows with somebody not already on opiates. Not the stuff to mess around with.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-59161109509158600162017-09-20T09:42:06.755-07:002017-09-20T09:42:06.755-07:00I had some questions on the math when I heard this...I had some questions on the math when I heard this on the radio, 32 million lethal doses is a LOT of people, you'd expect a couple truckloads at least. Or put another way, how much "safer" heroin would you need to mix this with in order to avoid killing all your potential repeat customers? Seriously, what's the sense of getting them hooked if the first hit kills them.<br /><br />Almost 30 years ago I sprained my back (with a really hard sneeze, of all things), and my doc prescribed Tylenol-3 (with codeine). I must have an especially low tolerance, since one pill got me absolutely stoned (my ex-GF said I was lying on my bed singing). I only took a couple pills, the effect scared me a little and I can see how people get hooked, but for the couple nights when the pain was bad it allowed me to sleep and heal. I can only imagine what will happen to people in chronic pain who will have even more trouble getting the painkillers they need to function.<br /><br />Mark D<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-40481186178171187462017-09-20T09:20:24.602-07:002017-09-20T09:20:24.602-07:00just this morning, it was announced in the MSM tha...just this morning, it was announced in the MSM that 41 states are opening investigations of 'big pharma' for the 'opioid epidemic'. <br /><br />if history informs, it will not be long before all amerikans will be forced to live in pain, their physicians being fearful of prescribing agents that will alleviate their suffering and increase their quality of life for fear of some bureaucrat, somewhere, being offended that an amerikan can be free of pain and ALLOWED A SOMEWHAT NORMAL LIFE and the physician, doing his job, taken down in some manner, up to and removing his license. <br /><br />time will tell the outcome of the 'investigations'. my belief is that there will be two outcomes: 1)more regulations, and 2)more pain for amerikans whose bodies have broken down due to hard work and age.<br /><br />kirknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-65412846022038901572017-09-20T09:16:33.533-07:002017-09-20T09:16:33.533-07:00Can fentanyl be spread over food somehow? I have ...Can fentanyl be spread over food somehow? I have no idea how it works.<br /><br />Can it be inhaled ( dust ) or eaten and still have effect?<br /><br />Thanks Irishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.com