tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post5801418039072930543..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: More Poking Around VegasAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-12201206150020913802017-10-05T10:26:42.178-07:002017-10-05T10:26:42.178-07:00Just after the first round of automatic weapons fi...Just after the first round of automatic weapons fire goes off, all of the high powered lights surrounding the killing field come on. Kind of gives you that fish in a barrel feeling. How does spotlighting the crowd help save lives? <br /><br />This was a concerted act by several shooters to kill and maime as many people as possible. The guy in the Mandalay hotel room was set up and killed in the end by those who hate America. whirlwindernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-84632954593835258432017-10-05T10:22:51.366-07:002017-10-05T10:22:51.366-07:00The shots being fired are from automatic weapons, ...The shots being fired are from automatic weapons, either belt fed or from a round magazine.<br />Shots from a distance are lower in pitch and those closer to the crowd are high pitched. Those close to the crowd were being fired in short bursts as a shooter trained by the military would do. At one point in the video (3:30 mark) you can hear the low staccato of a far away weapon while at the same time a high pitched group of bursts goes off. More than one shooter? <br /><br />There is more to this tragedy than meets the eye. whirlwindernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-81916460483851399522017-10-03T12:53:40.170-07:002017-10-03T12:53:40.170-07:00Not necessarily echoes, but rather sonic crack, wh...Not necessarily echoes, but rather sonic crack, which at that distance is heard before the actual report. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-70032905399091610672017-10-03T08:22:01.562-07:002017-10-03T08:22:01.562-07:00"That initial burst from the first video soun..."That initial burst from the first video sounded like a serious mag dump."<br /><br />Using an audio editor to count the peaks in the waveform, I see at least 120 shots in the first burst alone.<br /><br />Very good for you for pointing out the echo problem. It's real. I'm pretty sure that I see that in the waves, too.<br /><br />Have a look --<br /><br />https://www.facebook.com/billy.beck.18/posts/10210446777107143<br />Billy Becknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-2574874686937928822017-10-03T08:08:04.343-07:002017-10-03T08:08:04.343-07:00"One such point earlier this morning the dail..."One such point earlier this morning the daily mail reported 2 officers were hurt confronting the gunman. Then we are told suicide. <br /><br />Who knows."<br /><br />Info from the news conference indicated initial contact with his room was by hotel police. Door knock was answered by gunfire. Hit one officer in the leg. Timeline unclear but begs the question, why the floor by floor search? Neighboring rooms knew where it was coming from. Did no one count how many floors above broken windows? There were early reports the smoke alarm went off in his room. Which makes sense. Which is maybe why we have heard no more about it. Welcome Black Carterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18311773931685321294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-24326373580958612322017-10-03T07:10:00.703-07:002017-10-03T07:10:00.703-07:00I saw that, thanks for the link.
Daily Mail says L...I saw that, thanks for the link.<br />Daily Mail says LVMPD reported "at least" one of the rifles in the room was full-auto, and others (plural) had bump fire. Which explains the cyclic rate variances I heard.<br /><br />Had to be some over-30-round hi-caps in there, because he had 40-50 round strings going.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-80995290981784736552017-10-03T05:11:22.002-07:002017-10-03T05:11:22.002-07:00Hi Aesop, I added a new video this morning that an...Hi Aesop, I added a new video this morning that analyzes the gun fire.<br /><br />They are saying bump fire:<br /><br />http://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/03/las-vegas-shooting-gunman-used-bump-stock-device-to-speed-fire/<br /><br />Many are saying Belt fed.<br /><br />FWIW <br /><br />Also linked to your new post. There is so much that doesn't add up.<br /><br />I believe if he was a Trump supported it would be 24/7/365.<br /><br />Irishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-51659700990884977082017-10-02T20:31:34.997-07:002017-10-02T20:31:34.997-07:00@Edsss
They're behind the squad car because th...@Edsss<br />They're behind the squad car because they don't know WTF the shooter is, how many shooters there are, or if Douchebag in the hotel is the only threat.<br />Just like the civilians involved.<br /><br />And I don't know at whit time point this was taken, but obviously not in the first 5 minutes.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-3421564227276051582017-10-02T20:26:57.875-07:002017-10-02T20:26:57.875-07:001) No, the video doesn't sound like two guns. ...1) No, the video doesn't sound like two guns. The problem is, the shooter's window(s) have the SW tower wing at a 120-degree angle, which reflects the original gunshot sounds out of sync with direct-line sounds, and it's a wall of glass.<br />using walls and buildings to misdirect the report is something I read about as early as the early '80s in the stories about Carlos Hathcock, something he did specifically when sniping, whenever possible. Maybe just happenstance in this case, but physics is still physics, and sound does what it does.<br /><br />2) The <i>Mail</i> is in London, and I expect they did their reporting from in front of the TV, unless they happened to have someone in Vegas covering OJ's release, but they wouldn't likely be that plugged in to the local PD. I suspect their reports from early on are just so much noise, rather than light.<br /><br />3) The video was good in one respect: I <i>knew</i> where the shooter was in those shots, and I couldn't see anything identifiable as muzzle flash (crappy camera quality? + shaky cam), even when pointed right at the correct spot. Notably, they were pointing cell cams mostly at the wrong spot, which underlines what I said in (1), above, about picking gunfire out with all those echoes.<br /><br />4) that initial burst from the first video sounded like a serious mag dump. Audio analysts will be counting and isolating the shots, but somebody sounds like they had way more than a 30-shot banana mag. I heard 45+ one a quick count, and the vid picks up partway through the first mag. Maybe a drum, Beta-mag, or one of the 60-round Surefire's?<br /><br />Time will tell. But the more I dig, just asking basic questions, the more this smells like a meticulously planned op, and not some "just snapped" whackjob deciding to fire up a crowd for the helluvit, on a whim.<br /><br />5) Douchebag's daddy was a psychopathic gunman and bank robber, who died in prison after being on FBI's Most Wanted List when Hoover was Director. I have zero problem concluding the apple didn't fall far from the tree here.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-40473718003251403422017-10-02T20:17:04.207-07:002017-10-02T20:17:04.207-07:00If the gunman is shooting from the 32nd floor of t...If the gunman is shooting from the 32nd floor of the Mandaly Bay hotel, how come the cops in the first pic you posted are hunkered behind a squad car and facing what appears to be threats from directions other that the Mandaly Bay?... which stands directly behind the squad car?????<br />Does that seem odd to anyone else???Edsssnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-57491804561706634632017-10-02T20:04:32.253-07:002017-10-02T20:04:32.253-07:00One last thing. Here's a post that has the in...One last thing. Here's a post that has the info from the daily mail about the cops being injured. There is a cut and paste image off the paragraph:<br /><br />https://freedomoutpost.com/stephen-paddock-patsy/<br />Irishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-133106520234982572017-10-02T19:57:53.980-07:002017-10-02T19:57:53.980-07:00Or here if that link doesn't work
https://yo...Or here if that link doesn't work <br /><br />https://youtu.be/TGKEGoKwASMIrishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-5622919872261858722017-10-02T19:57:11.298-07:002017-10-02T19:57:11.298-07:00Here's the raw video
https://m.youtube.com/wa...Here's the raw video<br /><br />https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TGKEGoKwASM&ebc=ANyPxKrMyiXwDhxikiFR80hcjXMlhRGsBtMJd2BlthC3j-nbTO6Xk4OM792IJk4TURkS8d0MyNzFjqn7W5vJvQbRotoDNm0nUQIrishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39056014341510039072017-10-02T19:56:32.788-07:002017-10-02T19:56:32.788-07:00I found this at another site. Does it sound like m...I found this at another site. Does it sound like multiple guns? Especially at the 2 min mark. <br /><br />FWIW<br /><br />There is a lot of stuff floating around the internet and we will have to wait for it to filter out but none of this is making sense. <br /><br />One such point earlier this morning the daily mail reported 2 officers were hurt confronting the gunman. Then we are told suicide. <br /><br />Who knows. Irishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09772405362867585844noreply@blogger.com