tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post3487547201496101511..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: What Next?Aesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-48420306698708870412020-02-28T17:48:48.238-08:002020-02-28T17:48:48.238-08:00Things take timeThings take timechewbaccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848017937591992496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-7705630612617140302020-02-27T13:49:35.180-08:002020-02-27T13:49:35.180-08:00@Anonymous 9:37
"Methinks the .gov et al wer...@Anonymous 9:37<br /><br />"Methinks the .gov et al were trying to use hope as a plan and finally realized that plan was failing."<br />-----------------<br />That's about right. While I like Trump and a lot of the things that he's done, on this issue I think that he wasn't given all of the information (and may still not have it). That's not even counting the fact that probably NO ONE on the entire planet has a complete picture of this "novel" coronavirus, because it is, well, NOVEL, IOW new.<br /><br />IMHO, when the CDC gets around to telling you that you have a problem with a disease, it is a VERY big problem, and beyond their ability to do much about. This thing is all over the place, is highly communicable (which is exactly WHY it is all over the place), is serious enough to kill about 20-30 times as much as the common (i.e. not Spanish, from 100 years ago) flu, and we have no vaccine or cure that works reliably. I personally think that they are pretty panicked right now, and trying not to show it, because the Kung Flu is likely (again, IMHO) to infect at least 10% - 20% of the population before another couple of months go by.<br /><br />FYI, the Japanese just closed ALL of their public schools, leaving something like 13 million kids stuck at home until the end of their spring break. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-27/abe-calls-for-all-japan-schools-to-close-to-combat-coronavirus<br /><br />FWIW, my 82-year-old mother has been in the hospital for nearly 2 weeks, at lease a week and a half of which is due to the flu that she caught there, and has left her weaker than I've ever seen her. I hope that she can GTFO before long, so that I can begin to help her build up her immune system with loads of C, D, Zinc and multiple doses of Sambucol per day. That, and lots of sleep. I want her to survive this year and well beyond, but if she's stuck in a petri dish, err, hospital, that isn't too likely.A Texannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-31770969915736524212020-02-27T13:43:23.782-08:002020-02-27T13:43:23.782-08:00@ Hope@ZeroKelvin and Reltney,
15M seriously infe...@ Hope@ZeroKelvin and Reltney,<br /><br />15M seriously infected people trying to get into 93K ICU beds and 930K regular hospital beds isn't going to work.<br /><br />All health care will collapse long before then, and we'll be on a Chinese lockdown, indefinitely.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-37546999652671468762020-02-27T09:37:40.178-08:002020-02-27T09:37:40.178-08:00@Kansas Infidel: no official pressers are going to...@Kansas Infidel: no official pressers are going to have any value until the horse is out of the barn and about 100 miles down the road. It is/will be all designed to try to keep people calm. Also, beware of people who think they are or may even be recognized as 'experts'. Think the George Carlin bit about being full of shit. Use your G2 and BS filter and maybe some of the talking heads will turn out to be credible. Also, pay very close attention to what is NOT said. <br /><br />China used hard censorship. Here it is the soft variety. Up until last night the local news didn't even mention Kung Flu. Coverage on the national (this is all on NBC) has been spotty to say the least. Suddenly last night it was the headline and about 30% of the program. <br /><br />Methinks the .gov et al were trying to use hope as a plan and finally realized that plan was failing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-64974045557210689012020-02-27T07:34:20.765-08:002020-02-27T07:34:20.765-08:00Maybe China just wanted to eliminate a few thousan...Maybe China just wanted to eliminate a few thousand undesirables. The flu was just cover.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-22416483383603758542020-02-27T07:13:02.439-08:002020-02-27T07:13:02.439-08:00I heard a nurse call into talk radio 2 nights ago ...I heard a nurse call into talk radio 2 nights ago as I was out stocking up. She claimed to have a BS in microbiology and was claiming that this isn't any different than the other Kung Flus that we experience every year. (anyone notice that every flu in the last 10 yrs has originated in China?) The host was sharp enough to ask her if this is like every other flu, why has it shut China's manufacturing, schools, and economy? She had no response to that! Beware people with a little medical and/or biology training who think they're doctors or experts.The Kansas Infidelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09599654347271899542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-89068150380501129612020-02-27T06:58:35.788-08:002020-02-27T06:58:35.788-08:00POTUS presser yesterday was worthless. He didn...POTUS presser yesterday was worthless. He didn't give 1 example of how they've kept us safe, just kept saying they're doing an amazing job. M3 (mainstream media moguls) didn't press him for any concrete examples of what steps the gubberment has taken to keep up safe - because they're stupid as Aesop has pointed out numerous times. Contrary to what POTUS said about banning flights, my son has 3 coworkers that traveled together to Singapore, Japan and S. Korea and just flew straight back into the states yesterday. We're considering them all to be carriers.The Kansas Infidelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09599654347271899542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-70647896287486209242020-02-27T05:58:55.579-08:002020-02-27T05:58:55.579-08:00Your envelope sounds accurate, to an order of magn...Your envelope sounds accurate, to an order of magnitude. <br /><br />Your assessment of demand:supply mismatch sounds about right. <br /><br />Hell, in my experience, sounds about right, again, to accuracy of about an order of magnitude. <br /><br />Spicy times, if it plays out as it might. Reltney McFeehttp://www.musingsofastretcherape.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-30293861424017221322020-02-27T05:10:32.394-08:002020-02-27T05:10:32.394-08:00Can't vote in Nov if the "USSA"is fu...Can't vote in Nov if the "USSA"is full blown infected........... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-68692451215989893772020-02-26T22:45:11.298-08:002020-02-26T22:45:11.298-08:00@Ominous Cowherd,
They filter the hell out of med...@Ominous Cowherd,<br /><br />They filter the hell out of medical grade oxygen, to remove oil, particulates, water, and everything else. None of which works well with your lungs. (Think aspiration pneumonia.)<br /><br />Using it in a large room instead solves that problem, but it also makes everything in that room a fire looking for a spark.<br />{cf. Apollo 1}<br /><br />Welding oxygen is for welding for good reasons.<br />If you want to filter it through an oil filter and a HEPA filter, you might could get away with it, but if you already have a HEPA filter...?Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-52507662498808510802020-02-26T21:26:30.384-08:002020-02-26T21:26:30.384-08:00There isn't a second prize.There isn't a second prize.John Wilderhttp://wilderwealthywise.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-52984430736432626622020-02-26T20:22:55.320-08:002020-02-26T20:22:55.320-08:00Thanks for the definition, Warthog.
PandoraThanks for the definition, Warthog.<br /><br />PandoraAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-84791591185630676082020-02-26T20:06:16.289-08:002020-02-26T20:06:16.289-08:00Boat guy, you are right that welding oxygen is not...Boat guy, you are right that welding oxygen is not medical grade. <br /><br />Next time I fill up at Air Liquide, I'll ask them what's the difference. I suspect the answer is going to be that thay're more careful not to fill the cylinder with the wrong gas.Ominous Cowherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04802991559947782419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-35407715468111152020-02-26T19:54:52.197-08:002020-02-26T19:54:52.197-08:00@Roger,
1) From seconds, up to 10 minutes. It'...@Roger,<br /><br />1) From seconds, up to 10 minutes. It's a parabolic curve.<br />2) Soap and water, <i>per se</i>, kills next to nothing, it <i>removes</i> things and washes them down the drain. Hot enough water may kill some, incidental to washing.<br />3) Normal washing suffices for cleaning clothes. You don't need to be surgically sterile. Most virucidal agents will sterilize things adequately, including weak bleach solutions, or commercial wipes, isopropyl alcohol, etc., for the few things (shoe soles, personal items) you might be worried about. Local water supplies, under normal operations, will be potable, and virus-free, as they're usually chlorinated and UV-exposed, etc.. Check with your muni supplier on their process if unsure.<br />4) At some point, stop leaving your house. You may not be given a choice about this by TPTB. That point will likely be long after the horse has left the barn.<br /><br />Rule of Thumb: coughing among people is going to become the new Drunk In Public, with a side-order of Black Death, socially.<br />If someone is, expect them to be literally bum-rushed the hell out and away from people, possibly with some ardor and community violence. I mean that. Noses will get punched, and eyes will get blackened, until people catch on.<br /><br />This will stop being funny when people start dying.<br />Then the torches and pitchforks come out.<br /><br />5) Wash. Your. Hands.<br />Most epidemics happen because you touch an infected object (doorknob, shopping cart, etc.) and then touch your mouth, nose, eyes, etc., or shove food in your maw.<br />that's how you get the common cold. The flu. Gastroenteritis. Etc.<br />Stop doing that.<br />Wash. Your. Hands. Before you touch yourself or feed yourself.<br />Kids (under age 25, at which point common sense grows in) are the lion's share of this problem, which is how epidemics propagate from September until summer recess, and peak from Thanksgiving to Easter, and multiple generations gather inside cramped houses and share everything, including swapping spit, literally.<br /><br />That eliminates about 97% of the problem.<br /><br />The rest is being coughed/sneezed on by infected people.<br /><br />If you're not out in that, you don't get it.<br />Period.<br /><br />It isn't going to blow in your window and ass-rape you.<br /><br />Easy-peasey.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-81340060267032446682020-02-26T19:38:23.586-08:002020-02-26T19:38:23.586-08:00@ Charles,
If 198M people were infected by common...@ Charles,<br /><br />If 198M people were infected by <i>common annual flu</i>, you could expect 198,000 to die from it.<br />This is not the flu.<br />The death numbers for 198M from coronavirus would probably be somewhere approaching 6M people. Just from the virus.<br /><br />For reference, in an average year in the U.S., 2.6M people die of all causes combined, from heart attacks to shootings to drunk driving accidents to getting squashed by tipped over vending machines to old age.<br /><br />This would quadruple that in one year.<br /><br />And when last I looked, China had over 400M people on house arrest, a number greater than the entire population of the U.S.<br /><br />So, how much disruption were you looking for before you figure this is a big deal?Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-41596969793251900242020-02-26T19:07:13.433-08:002020-02-26T19:07:13.433-08:00Here is a checklist a guy made, he gave permission...Here is a checklist a guy made, he gave permission to re-post: http://www.postcount.net/forum/showthread.php?234797-Coronavirus&p=3833134&viewfull=1#post3833134Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39023813022569803992020-02-26T18:47:50.262-08:002020-02-26T18:47:50.262-08:00If 198 million in the US are infected and less tha...If 198 million in the US are infected and less than 120,000 die from it, that would make the effective death rate .06%, which is not even close to the 2% rate being experienced in China. Also, if 60% is the expected rate of infection, would that not mean about 700+ million Chinese should become infected. While I do not trust China’s numbers concerning number of infected and deaths, I think if over half of China’s population caught this thing, we would have seen much more disruption there than we have. Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02794539976274114889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-29121712927253518572020-02-26T15:54:55.760-08:002020-02-26T15:54:55.760-08:00Check this out. If you go to her blog to disagree,...Check this out. If you go to her blog to disagree, please be nice.<br /><br />https://rationalpreparedness.blogspot.com/2020/02/as-covid-19-spreads.html?m=1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-28786553566219948012020-02-26T15:21:02.362-08:002020-02-26T15:21:02.362-08:00Hey Cowherd,
Welding oxygen is NOT/NOT Medical ox...Hey Cowherd, <br />Welding oxygen is NOT/NOT Medical oxygen. Yes, I've seen it used as such in a third-world country but that didn't mean then and doesn't mean now that it's a good idea<br />YMMV<br />Boat GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-68870167874939985152020-02-26T15:02:52.058-08:002020-02-26T15:02:52.058-08:00Rod Dreher’s column contains very informative comm...Rod Dreher’s column contains very informative comments about covid19. He quotes a doctor who is married to a Chinese woman. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/china-apocalypse-buddhist-prophecy-locusts/Annabel Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697832836937365513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-12978724282084905442020-02-26T14:48:44.751-08:002020-02-26T14:48:44.751-08:00Okay Aesop, Here I sit, 76 Years of experience. W...Okay Aesop, Here I sit, 76 Years of experience. With stock of N 95 & 99 masks, latex or poly gloves, a months worth of food and a reasonable supply of ammunition.<br />Things I NEED to know."<br />1, How long will the virus exist in open air, after some unfortunate has sneezed?<br />2, Will soap and water kill the little bastards? Showering after a trip to the drugstore? What if any soap or cleaning agent for normal people should be used?<br />3, Will local water supplies, (municipal, chlorinated etc) be reasonably free of the virus? If not, what will kill it? Boiling, salt, A few drops of Chlorox / gallon?<br />4, Any suggestions from someone that knows a hell of a lot more than me???Rogernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-44293103937094124412020-02-26T14:07:51.454-08:002020-02-26T14:07:51.454-08:00Good advice, as usual. Thanks!Good advice, as usual. Thanks!Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-84342758991772860122020-02-26T13:57:54.532-08:002020-02-26T13:57:54.532-08:00One other item that doesn't require a prescrip...One other item that doesn't require a prescription is an oxygen bottle and regulator. Your local welding shop has both, usually sells a package deal that includes hoses, regulators, torch and acetylene.Ominous Cowherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04802991559947782419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-50528953512104797092020-02-26T13:46:02.828-08:002020-02-26T13:46:02.828-08:00To Aesop,
since I have been informed by "That...To Aesop,<br />since I have been informed by "That would be telling" that I am apparently "Too Stupid to Live" or according to him you would call me a Gilligan.<br />Typical of your ilk to immediately start name calling.<br />Having been informed of my condition I guess I will go down the hill and crawl into a cave to die, the stench will be great.<br />Enjoy your superiority.<br /> Rshankshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15916136901697579019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-67424101845386098112020-02-26T13:39:29.368-08:002020-02-26T13:39:29.368-08:00Rock on With Your Bad SelfRock on With Your Bad SelfWarthoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02103260779774649756noreply@blogger.com