tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post8284393192736030700..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Since You AskedAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-4147685361502491212019-06-20T13:38:24.700-07:002019-06-20T13:38:24.700-07:00" Why the f*ck are we still allowing people f..." Why the f*ck are we still allowing people from Africa into the country without undergoing a quarantine"<br /><br />I take it that was rhetorical. But if not:<br />Muh Slavery!<br />Muh Colonialism!<br />Muh Emmett Till!<br /><br />I don't want to see China succeed in Africa, but if China does, the Africans will find that King Leopold was a piker. <br /><br />Chinese (meaning Han, of course) cannot be guilt-tripped, particularly on racial or religious lines, and they'd gladly exterminate all the natives if they thought they could get away with it. Mike_Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-70708108986008923562019-06-19T15:01:09.828-07:002019-06-19T15:01:09.828-07:00Cowpox and Chickenpox are similar to smallpox
No....<b>Cowpox and Chickenpox are similar to smallpox</b><br /><br />No. Cowpox is in the same genus (Orthopoxvirus) as Smallpox while Chickenpox (Varicella) is a Herpes virus (varicella-zoster virus).<br /><br />They present very differently as well.Crewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-31055035049946523512019-06-19T13:48:44.532-07:002019-06-19T13:48:44.532-07:00"Just for the record, the reason I'm thin..."Just for the record, the reason I'm thinking of transmission from animal to human is because the REAL deadly (human) diseases (smallpox, flu, plague, etc) jumped species, and in their original host species (chickens, pigs, rats) they're not an especially serious disease because killing your host, especially quickly, isn't a good strategy for a virus."<br /><br />Smallpox ONLY infected humans, which is the main reason we managed to wipe it out, it had no where to hide.<br />Its interesting, almost everything we did to wipe out smallpox, we arent doing now<br /><br />Cowpox and Chickenpox are similar to smallpox, and cowpox may have at some pint jumped and become small pox, but it was a one time deal.<br /><br />"I read that the virus is still present in survivors, but not in all their fluids and thus not as easily transmissible."<br />Yep, eyeball, spinal fluid, semen. <br />Can it be transmitted via sex, we don't know, can it jump from spinal fluid, back to blood, and make the host symptomatic, we don't know, can it jump from spinal fluid to blood and infect others without the host becoming symptomatic, we don't know.Domohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240964731398145995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-18707169282776985892019-06-19T12:31:36.652-07:002019-06-19T12:31:36.652-07:00"
So, first Ebola shows up, she gets exposed...."<br />So, first Ebola shows up, she gets exposed. If she shows symptoms,"<br /><br />by then it's too late, which is the problem...<br /><br />nAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-49327314841841717352019-06-19T12:24:31.656-07:002019-06-19T12:24:31.656-07:00My daughter is an EMT. Since she became an EMT, I&...My daughter is an EMT. Since she became an EMT, I've learned that EMTs are not as well trained and equipped as we would expect first responders to be trained and equipped. <br /><br />So, first Ebola shows up, she gets exposed. If she shows symptoms, her mother will insist on mothering her. My wife is highly susceptible to infections. If I get a sniffle, she gets a cold. If I get a cold, she gets the flu. If I get the flu, she gets pneumonia.... <br /><br />Reckon my wife and I become separated at that moment. I believe we have some talking to do tonight. Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17791610798116970807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-52156860378927703712019-06-19T09:58:26.046-07:002019-06-19T09:58:26.046-07:00Thank for your the condensed "how-to-survive&...Thank for your the condensed "how-to-survive" post. Is it fair to say that ~90 days after the last case, it's unlikely you'll be infected from (human) survivors of the virus? I read that the virus is still present in survivors, but not in all their fluids and thus not as easily transmissible.AaMcavoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10451233699159548477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63196187529526860352019-06-19T09:29:30.618-07:002019-06-19T09:29:30.618-07:00Thanks for the fantastic coverage and analysis. Lo...Thanks for the fantastic coverage and analysis. Long time reader and this is spot-on, you keep dumping out those golden eggs of goodness! Gaming this for your personal plans is, shall we say, an interesting exercise. Here is a link to a page for modeling your take on how "hot" ebola is and the effects of various parameters. Readers, take it for a spin and some eye-opening results. Link: https://econometricsbysimulation.shinyapps.io/Ebola-Dynamic-Model/<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-83225106318800216322019-06-19T08:47:25.873-07:002019-06-19T08:47:25.873-07:00Just for the record, the reason I'm thinking o...Just for the record, the reason I'm thinking of transmission from animal to human is because the REAL deadly (human) diseases (smallpox, flu, plague, etc) jumped species, and in their original host species (chickens, pigs, rats) they're not an especially serious disease because killing your host, especially quickly, isn't a good strategy for a virus.<br /><br />So thinking thru, the possible vectors from animal to human (in generally ascending order of hard-to-prevent) would be:<br /><br />Consumption of meat from an infected animal (probably avoidable thru proper cooking)<br /><br />Direct contact with infected animal product (fluids, feces, etc). <br /><br />Indirect contact via some third-part (like an insect).<br /><br />Airborne virus<br /><br />It doesn't APPEAR to be airborne (yet) (as you noted, Ebola's not going to low-crawl up on you).<br /><br />As far as the bats, don't most bats live on insects? I think some eat fruit (now THERE'S a scary prospect). Vampire bats notwithstanding, if bats are an issue they're probably getting it from the insects they consume.<br /><br />Which brings us to the $10,000 question: Why the f*ck are we still allowing people from Africa into the country without undergoing a quarantine to show they're not carrying Ebola? Forgetting for a moment those who come in illegally, why are there still inter-continental flights FROM Africa to ANYWHERE? Why aren't those planes told, upon requesting landing at their destination, told "Sorry, you'll have to turn around and go home"?<br /><br />The best way to survive an Ebola outbreak in the US is to not HAVE an Ebola outbreak in the US, but it seems TPTB are determined to go for Plan B. <br /><br />And people ask me why I drink.....<br /><br />Mark D Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-78657302664782357342019-06-19T08:13:28.895-07:002019-06-19T08:13:28.895-07:00No, they have no idea.
Even the halfwitted attemp...No, they have no idea.<br /><br />Even the halfwitted attempts to palm it off on bats beg the questions: <br /><b>So where do the <i>bats</i> get it from?<br />And how does it get from bats to all the other animals?</b><br /><br />I'm pretty sure chimpanzees, etc. and small antelopes aren't eating undercooked "bush meat".<br />So they're still nowhere, AFAIK.<br /><br />Anyone planning on leaving a safe, Ebola-free perimeter, and venturing into the wilds to hunt during an outbreak, hasn't been paying any attention to the point, is a functional moron, and deserves to die for egregious public stupidity.<br /><br />And probably will.<br /><br />As for domestic livestock, an animal-tight quarantine is just that.<br />Either nothing outside (short of insects and bird) can get in, or it can, and your animals are still at risk. And thus you would be too.<br /><br />If, contrary to anonymous assertions, there is some insect vector or connection, you need to keep them out of your food animals too. That gets spendy in a hurry, and may be an ultimately futile attempt.<br /><br />Either way, this is the same problem they had in every <i>Jurassic Park</i> movie, just at the opposite end of the size spectrum: it's a zookeeping problem.<br />How to keep the beasties away from the people.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-89905209633890403592019-06-19T07:49:40.907-07:002019-06-19T07:49:40.907-07:00Has anyone figured out what the non-human vector i...Has anyone figured out what the non-human vector is? Can it spread via insect bites (think plague or malaria)? Especially from animal to human as opposed to between humans (where it appears to require direct contact with infected fluids)?<br /><br />Big issue for anyone whose preps count on either keeping domestic animals or hunting for food.....<br /><br />Mark DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-61394906883816161492019-06-18T20:41:31.265-07:002019-06-18T20:41:31.265-07:00https://www.repurposedmaterialsinc.com/razor-wire/...https://www.repurposedmaterialsinc.com/razor-wire/razor-wire-40-rolls/<br /><br />that happened to show up in my inbox. FYI. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-91850423386299452862019-06-18T20:40:18.155-07:002019-06-18T20:40:18.155-07:00@robert
you can get it from amazon or a great man...@robert<br /><br />you can get it from amazon or a great many other outlets. no different than buying chainlink or fencewire. kypartisannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39468375235502047102019-06-18T20:15:29.801-07:002019-06-18T20:15:29.801-07:00For a second I thought the final pic was one of th...For a second I thought the final pic was one of those "click on all the squares with whatever". I'll play: 1MC and a battle lantern.<br />I had an actual comment but the words not be come out right. Must be bedtime. BTW, where does one buy concertina wire? Asking for myself, not for a friend. At this point I kinda don't want any friends as they appear to be liabilities. Sigh.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09800106790176447938noreply@blogger.com