tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post7263724640372577311..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Chinese CalculusAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger52125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-64470852040720564402020-02-05T18:35:25.368-08:002020-02-05T18:35:25.368-08:00LYING COMMIE LIARS GONNA LIE
But the process can ...LYING COMMIE LIARS GONNA LIE<br /><br /><a href="http://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3871594" rel="nofollow">But the process can be interesting:</a><br /><br />"TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — As many experts question the veracity of China's statistics for the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Tencent over the weekend seems to have inadvertently released what is potentially the actual number of infections and deaths, which were astronomically higher than official figures.<br /><br />"On late Saturday evening (Feb. 1), Tencent, on its webpage titled "Epidemic Situation Tracker," showed confirmed cases of novel coronavirus (2019nCoV) in China as standing at 154,023, 10 times the official figure at the time. It listed the number of suspected cases as 79,808, four times the official figure.<br /><br />"The number of cured cases was only 269, well below the official number that day of 300. Most ominously, the death toll listed was 24,589, vastly higher than the 300 officially listed that day.<br /><br />"Moments later, Tencent updated the numbers to reflect the government's "official" numbers that day. Netizens noticed that Tencent has on at least three occasions posted extremely high numbers, only to quickly lower them to government-approved statistics....<br /><br />"Netizens also noticed that each time the screen with the large numbers appears, it shows a comparison with the previous day's data which demonstrates a "reasonable" incremental increase, much like comparisons of official numbers. This has led some netizens to speculate that Tencent has two sets of data, the real data and "processed" data.<br /><br />"Some are speculating that a coding problem could be causing the real "internal" data to accidentally appear. Others believe that someone behind the scenes is trying to leak the real numbers.<br /><br />"However, the "internal" data held by Beijing may not reflect the true extent of the epidemic. According to multiple sources in Wuhan, many coronavirus patients are unable to receive treatment and die outside of hospitals.<br /><br />"A severe shortage of test kits also leads to a lower number of diagnosed cases of infection and death. In addition, there have been many reports of doctors being ordered to list other forms of death instead of coronavirus to keep the death toll artificially low."Peter Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15122781534685443942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-82719587458733652542020-02-05T14:20:34.265-08:002020-02-05T14:20:34.265-08:0016 Chinese cities, 45 million people (about 3% of ...16 Chinese cities, 45 million people (about 3% of the Chinese population) are affected.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.businessinsider.com.au/wuhan-coronavirus-drone-video-abandoned-city-quarantine-2020-2" rel="nofollow"> ABC flew a drone over Wuhan.</a><br /><br />"'If you live in cities, your movement can be controlled through public transport,' Fei Chen, an urban-design lecturer at the University of Liverpool, previously told Business Insider. 'Wuhan has an international airport. It has highways and railways. So if you close all of them, then you basically cut off the means for people to get out.'<br /><br />"The transport ban came in the middle of the Lunar New Year celebration, the world’s largest annual human migration.<br /><br />"Reports from Wuhan suggest residents are mostly staying inside their homes, venturing out occasionally to stock up on food and masks. Some retailers are selling out of fresh produce as households hoard food, unsure of how long the epidemic and lockdown will last.<br /><br />"Workers at some of these stores have donned full-body protective suits."Peter Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15122781534685443942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-3024778575557885882020-02-04T12:55:08.490-08:002020-02-04T12:55:08.490-08:00@Aesop
I appreciate you're a busy man and tha...@Aesop<br /><br />I appreciate you're a busy man and that your spare time is very valuable. <br /><br />Could you please create a simplified blog post which one could point people to for prep for Coronachan's visit? <br /><br />Keep up the great work<br /><br /><br />Oh for you >insert insult< that aren't prepared to fight for your 2A rights. I just watched video from China which appears to show Chinese authorities sealing up people in their apartments. It'd take serious gear (tools and the like) to get out. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-37105762489899880172020-02-04T12:17:52.145-08:002020-02-04T12:17:52.145-08:00@Termite,
Bingo! Winner!!@Termite,<br /><br />Bingo! Winner!!Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-22216397367221160232020-02-04T11:46:52.863-08:002020-02-04T11:46:52.863-08:00Psalm 91.5~8
5 You will not fear the terror of nig...Psalm 91.5~8<br />5 You will not fear the terror of night,<br /> nor the arrow that flies by day,<br />6 nor the pestilence that stalks in the darkness,<br /> nor the plague that destroys at midday.<br />7 A thousand may fall at your side,<br /> ten thousand at your right hand,<br /> but it will not come near you.<br />8 You will only observe with your eyes<br /> and see the punishment of the wicked.carolinaTURTLEnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63739041560650822042020-02-04T00:19:42.648-08:002020-02-04T00:19:42.648-08:00Communist Chinese government "statistics"...Communist Chinese government "statistics" on the corona virus sort of resemble the Drake Equation.....Termitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-90570804721329628932020-02-03T18:56:15.103-08:002020-02-03T18:56:15.103-08:00I see that the folks at https://www.statista.com/...I see that the folks at https://www.statista.com/chart/20634/confirmed-coronavirus-cases-timeline/ that I gave earlier have updated and improve their timeline. They are now giving only figures for the whole world as most everyone else does.<br /><br />https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6<br /><br />Which is still Johns Hopkins has a time line that breaks out Mainland China from Other Locations.<br /><br />1-28 105<br />1-29 118<br />1-30 153<br />1-31 173<br />2-01 183<br />2-02 188<br />2-03 188<br /><br />Hopefully this site will continue to provide the break out that I am interested in.<br /><br /><br />Mike<br /><br />Michael or Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11426122772050521569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-15294144805087023062020-02-03T13:21:18.387-08:002020-02-03T13:21:18.387-08:00zerohedge has a nicely formatted chart of the case...zerohedge has a nicely formatted chart of the cases reported outside of china here--<br /><br />https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/i-cant-let-my-mom-die-home-desperate-patients-swarm-wuhan-hospital-hong-kong-closes <br /><br />It's at the top of the page now, but might move down later. Here's a link directly to the image...<br /><br />https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2020-02-03%20%281%29_0.jpg <br /><br />There's no indication of where they got it or where the live version is.<br /><br />nnick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-38693054151017517282020-02-03T12:07:19.521-08:002020-02-03T12:07:19.521-08:00Well, it looks like the chinese government just co...Well, it looks like the chinese government just confirmed that some of the video coming out of china is real...<br /><br />https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7961571/Whistleblower-arrested-China-secretly-filming-piles-body-bags-coronavirus-hospital.html <br /><br />n<br /><br />and also demonstrated why we are getting so little first hand reporting.nick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-72590115252036792222020-02-03T05:17:31.020-08:002020-02-03T05:17:31.020-08:00Thanks Mike, if it's doubling every couple of ...Thanks Mike, if it's doubling every couple of days, we won't have to wait too long to start seeing larger numbers outside of china. God help us.<br /><br />nnick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-79526596937889366852020-02-02T21:56:40.528-08:002020-02-02T21:56:40.528-08:00https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
gives a...https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/<br />gives a snapshot of today broken out by country<br /><br />https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa-coronavirus/<br />gives a chart/timeline of cases in the USA<br /><br />Jan 21 1<br /> 24 3<br /> 26 5<br /> 30 6<br /> 31 7<br />Feb 1 8<br /> 2 9<br /><br />Numbers are too small to give a meaningful trend.<br /><br />In the four hours I spent looking I found a lot of copy, paste, and small tweak surrounded by new ads. Maybe a timeline chart for the whole world and then a day by day recap of the leading coronavirus story of the day.<br /><br />MikeMichael or Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11426122772050521569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63821689159951926442020-02-02T21:13:14.139-08:002020-02-02T21:13:14.139-08:00It took a lot of searching to find anything usable...It took a lot of searching to find anything usable by Aesop's definition. Every org out there is using the same regurgitated data that has China mashed in. <br /><br />Finally found this chart url https://www.statista.com/chart/20634/confirmed-coronavirus-cases-timeline/<br />Source: John Hopkins University<br /><br />Broken out into Mainland China and Other by date.. It is CUMULATIVE. <br /><br />Jan 20 4<br /> 21 6<br /> 22 8<br /> 23 14<br /> 24 25<br /> 25 40<br /> 26 57<br /> 27 64<br /> 28 87 <br /> 29 105<br /><br />Every two days the total cumulative is doubling which is what China is reporting.<br /><br />MikeMichael or Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11426122772050521569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-29622924670519312852020-02-02T18:27:48.746-08:002020-02-02T18:27:48.746-08:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA0Ki5W5fZ0 lol...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA0Ki5W5fZ0 lol ouch<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-27278075062666423932020-02-02T17:39:08.582-08:002020-02-02T17:39:08.582-08:00I believe the US infections have now doubled in a ...I believe the US infections have now doubled in a week...<br /><br />Two confirmed cases have been reported in San Benito County in Northern California <br /><br />https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-warns-countries-should-prepare-local-outbreaks-pentagon-readies-quarantine-housing <br /><br />and we're seeing transmission to a partner in almost every case where a partner was present.<br /><br />That's not good.<br /><br />nick<br /><br /><br />nick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-10998029533414240952020-02-02T09:08:30.175-08:002020-02-02T09:08:30.175-08:00"observe how it spreads"
--and wreck yo..."observe how it spreads"<br /><br />--and wreck your economy while earning the opprobrium of the whole world? I don't see any upside for the .gov there....<br /><br />nicknick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-46941565065385001682020-02-02T08:37:55.238-08:002020-02-02T08:37:55.238-08:001) Outbreak occurs at site of PRC's premier bi...1) Outbreak occurs at site of PRC's premier bioweapons facility. <br />2) Virus has similarities to other more lethal pathogens, possibly bioengineered.<br /><br />Wouldn't this be a great way to document the spread of a bioweapon? Infect some Chinese in an area under particularly strict population controls and observe how it spreads through China and the World and how the targets respond to the test attack.<br />_revjen45Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-89468893522080060292020-02-02T07:24:17.064-08:002020-02-02T07:24:17.064-08:00Numbers not from china--
"Thailand has seen...Numbers not from china-- <br /><br />"Thailand has seen 19 confirmed cases of the coronavirus, 11 patients are still in hospital but the rest have been able to return home. "<br /><br />https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7957889/Thai-medics-claim-coronavirus-break-Patient-declared-disease-free-48-hours.html <br /><br />I don't know the timeline. The interactive map shows only 5 recovered in Thailand.<br /><br />No idea or comment about the other claims in the article.<br /><br />nick<br /><br /><br />nick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-45586086839443509092020-02-02T06:15:13.202-08:002020-02-02T06:15:13.202-08:00Dear Anon 4:48:ref your assertion, quoted here:
&...Dear Anon 4:48:ref your assertion, quoted here:<br /><br />"...but our hospitals are not overwhelmed with too many patients either."<br /><br />Er, NSVFM. In my personal experience, any ED in any town of much of any size (which would, of course, be the epicenter, for any given locality, of any sort of epidemic, influenza, SARS, nCOV, Ebola or The Black death) is gridlocked pretty much the entirety of any weekend. That includes three day weekends, wherein the gridlock can be predicted to extend for 4 days, inclusive of the day following said weekend. One (of many) reasons for the gridlock is the inability of the floor staff in the ED to get folks admitted, and then off to the floor. One (of many) reasons for THAT, is an intersections of short staffing in hospitals, and a bed:demand imbalance. <br /><br />So, if you select your day carefully (say, Tuesday morning around 0400), you can see empty Ed beds, and a (more or less) empty ED waiting room. That, however, is not the baseline. So, ref your implication that we are/will not see (seeing) the sort of pandemonium shown in several exciting videos on the internet, is that it is not newsworthy. As in, it's what we called, in my days as a floor nurse, "Saturday". Reltney McFeehttp://www.musingsofastretcherape.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-69940850675455686872020-02-02T04:48:59.192-08:002020-02-02T04:48:59.192-08:00Two reports that should be of interest to people,
...Two reports that should be of interest to people,<br /><br />First, the virus can be spread via feces, and fecal contamination. One of the symptoms of nCov is often diarrhea, explosive diarrhea. SARS was spread through a Chinese Apartment building in 2003 by fecal contamination, including airborne. The lungs and the intestinal tract both have receptors for Coronavirus. Keep that in mind when you are in public, and using public lavatories. <br /><br />Second, the Chinese took down a press report that accused their government of lying. Basically no one dies of nCov, unless it is confirmed and they die in the hospital. The other deaths are chalked up to general pneumonia, or some similar cause, not nCov. No one officially has nCov unless it is confirmed by test and they are under care in a hospital. I think our influenza reporting rules here are similar, but our hospitals are not overwhelmed with too many patients either. <br /><br />I think key data will be the number of person to person transmissions that are reported outside of China, especially in the Western World. Lots of person to person transmission cases mean it will get spread widely, and not die out quickly. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-46971073112686886662020-02-01T22:37:17.509-08:002020-02-01T22:37:17.509-08:00We know that it was sufficiently uncontrolled that...We know that it was sufficiently uncontrolled that they had to warn the world it was coming, then a week later quarantine 50 million people and restrict the movement of millions more. My guess is that it is bad shit and spreads like wildfire, like an R0 of 3 to 5 and a fatality rate in the low double digits. The ChiComGov may not know any of the actuals, but probably have a gut feel that they are on the cusp of solving the problems associated with the one child policy and the lifting thereof.Monsoon Matriarchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15476615206392489371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-71572665929543813702020-02-01T20:32:27.770-08:002020-02-01T20:32:27.770-08:00"First coronavirus death OUTSIDE China is con..."First coronavirus death OUTSIDE China is confirmed after a man from Wuhan dies in the Philippines<br /><br /> A man from Wuhan has died from the coronavirus in the Philippines<br /> The 44-year-old man was admitted to hospital after travelling from China<br /> At the time, he was suffering from a fever, cough and a sore throat<br /> His condition deteriorated rapidly and he developed severe pneumonia "<br /><br />https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7957307/First-coronavirus-death-OUTSIDE-China-confirmed-man-Wuhan-dies-Philippines.html <br /><br />nnick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-4943777144080636692020-02-01T19:58:16.080-08:002020-02-01T19:58:16.080-08:00Isn't starting a war the usual cure for that? ...Isn't starting a war the usual cure for that? Unleashing a plague on the world doesn't get you any righteousness points like a ginned up incident of your coast....<br /><br />nnick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-45242395815723692822020-02-01T19:46:52.840-08:002020-02-01T19:46:52.840-08:00another possibility is that the Chin financial sys...another possibility is that the Chin financial system is on the verge or pass the verge of going boom and the govt is fabricating the whole mess as a cover story rather than take the full blame themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-3831857448083725702020-02-01T19:27:56.433-08:002020-02-01T19:27:56.433-08:00That's crazy talk. But it would explain the d...That's crazy talk. But it would explain the draconian measures.<br /><br />I'll add that we've decided to stop some people from entering the country. Apparently it's been 50 years since we did that. Something is causing people in a position to know more than us to do things that don't seem justified by what little we've been told.<br /><br />nnick flandreynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-13500204473099128852020-02-01T19:04:51.384-08:002020-02-01T19:04:51.384-08:00what if...what if there is no activity....cause......what if...what if there is no activity....cause....everyone.....is......dead. Wouldn't that shock the shit out of the world. It sure would explain China's over reaction to a seeming nothinburger ....save face.....there is nothing to save 5 million people fled in horrorconerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09293835001866299747noreply@blogger.com