tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post6900503650243185941..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: Calm The F**k Down, IdiotsAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-64764921737869557782018-03-13T10:42:17.265-07:002018-03-13T10:42:17.265-07:00A measured, rational response is needed - in March...A measured, rational response is needed - in March 2010 an Oregon state employee was subject to an early morning, unwarranted raid on his home. This is a link to a summary of the event, along with other embedded links for further detail. <br /><br />http://www.oregonfirearms.org/03-17-10-outrage<br /><br />Ultimately, Mr. Pyles did sue for this blatant violation of his Constitutional rights, but according to those who were most knowledgeable of the event and the circumstances, he was his own worst enemy - had he taken the advice of competent legal counsel he had pretty much a slam dunk case. Instead, he went flying off the handle and, as a result, his case was tossed out of court. According to one local activist, the state "nutted and slutted" him very effectively, portraying him as a deranged individual, rightly or wrongly. Last I heard, he moved to Florida, ironically enough.<br /><br />Mind you, this event occurred years before Oregon passed anything like the ERPO that was invoked in WA state, but Oregon has since passed its own version of ERPO. But in the interim years, again in Oregon, you also had the case of a local videoblogger, Michael Strickland, who was forced to defend himself at a BLM rally - he conducted himself in a textbook manner, holstering his weapon after the threat was neutralized, and even had the event captured on video. Last I heard he had been convicted of 21 counts of felony menacing...for a clear cut case, captured on video, of self-defense and rational response.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-50146905618402551822018-03-12T09:25:29.611-07:002018-03-12T09:25:29.611-07:00He is lucky the Pigs didn't just stuff the doo...He is lucky the Pigs didn't just stuff the door and kill him. _revjen45Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-73747485184674383542018-03-11T09:01:29.724-07:002018-03-11T09:01:29.724-07:00The same is true for presumptively seizing an arbi...The same is true for presumptively seizing an arbitrary amount of cash, on the farcical grounds that it <i>must</i> be the proceeds of criminal activity.<br /><br />I'm not arguing this is a good law; indeed, it needs to be thrown out in haste.<br /><br />But the assertion that it was some extra-legal warrantless seizure is recockulous, and as the links demonstrated, completely false.<br /><br />That's the sort of horseshit I expect on MSNBC, not nominally pro-2A websites.<br />people who'll lie to sell a proposition, even one you're nominally in favor of, are already your enemy.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-57570211834119835522018-03-10T23:20:57.311-08:002018-03-10T23:20:57.311-08:00Instances and actions like this fall under the cat...Instances and actions like this fall under the category of <br />"The Process Is The Punishment". This is where the criminals<br />in power engage in an abusive and often violent attack on the<br />rights, property and safety of a citizen who has done NOTHING<br />ILLEGAL. They do this because they are shielded by the insanity<br />called "Qualifed Immunity" whereby they can commit any and all<br />violations and atrocities with total impunity. The victim in this<br />particular instance may be able to find some white knight group<br />to come to his legal aid and shoulder the burden for opposing this<br />massive governmental overreach. Then again he may not....meaning<br />that if the victim of this abuse wants "justice" (sic) he must<br />fork over huge amounts of his own $$$ and not a small amount of time<br />and grief to oppose this official criminal misconduct. In short this<br />means that the people engaging in this type of state sanctioned<br />assault on rights can safely assume the VAST MAJORITY of their victims<br />cannot and therefore WILL NOT oppose them in the kangaroo banana<br />republic pseudojustice system that we are afflicted with. And on the <br />rare occasions someone does actually take such actions to court AND<br />prevail.......guess what they get.....Their OWN PROPERTY BACK. The odds<br />of them receiving any meaningful reparations for the abuse suffered is<br />small and would if awarded come from the pockets of the victims...the<br />long suffering taxpayer. The ENTIRE REASON for laws such as the one<br />cited in this case is to circumvent our rights and force the 'little guy'<br />with no resources to do battle against a behemoth in a system where the<br />odds are stacked against the 'little guy' from the outset. Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-13950890819327101522018-03-07T13:52:25.358-08:002018-03-07T13:52:25.358-08:00@Gray
A warrant means TPTB are still following Mar...@Gray<br />A warrant means TPTB are still following Marquis of Queensbury Rules.<br />The law under which they obtained it is the problem, but that gets redressed in court or at the ballot box.<br />Claiming they acted without a warrant when the facts are exactly otherwise is irresponsible and inexcusable.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-2649185024591519612018-03-07T12:55:47.086-08:002018-03-07T12:55:47.086-08:00Aesop,
Thank you.
There seems to be a lot (the a...Aesop,<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />There seems to be a lot (the amplifying microphone of the intertubes can produce that effect) of voices that seem to be hoping for hostilities to break out. <br /><br />This kind of imprecision in reporting events (such as you just tamped down) is no different (in type if not in volume) than MSM crap. <br /><br />Good job.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-59417017815420556582018-03-07T11:50:35.804-08:002018-03-07T11:50:35.804-08:00A lot of people see "warrant" and then t...A lot of people see "warrant" and then they say "it's all good".The Gray Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15098168056466325559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-37152109708179225552018-03-07T09:24:01.563-08:002018-03-07T09:24:01.563-08:00So, snowflakes felt threatened even though the gun...So, snowflakes felt threatened even though the gun never left the holster and the man wearing the gun never verbally threatened to remove the gun from the holster? <br /><br />I agree, he should sue everyone in sight for violation of his rights based upon nothing more than feelings. June Jnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-70927301248108933522018-03-07T07:31:09.537-08:002018-03-07T07:31:09.537-08:00Jim's comment is spot on imo.
As sure as shit ...Jim's comment is spot on imo.<br />As sure as shit though if some whacko dude was staring me down packing a gun I'd be more than a little concerned, Might even take it to the next level.lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011213166003657827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-76575599625413497842018-03-07T05:57:55.225-08:002018-03-07T05:57:55.225-08:00Great summary. Again, reason number 1867 as to wh...Great summary. Again, reason number 1867 as to why public open carry (even if legal in your state) is a really really really a stupid idea at this time.<br /><br />Speaking of suing, some of the kids (with parental consent of course) from Parkland HS are filing suit against Roscoe P. Coltrane's department and the school district. First of many. Broward County gubmint is about to file bankruptcy. Need to go to Costco to stock up on popcorn supplies...Jim Scrummynoreply@blogger.com