tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post576461808493615737..comments2024-03-28T11:58:42.109-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: According To The ProphecyAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63086775512581515132017-11-22T21:14:31.822-08:002017-11-22T21:14:31.822-08:00you mean he doesn't get a promotion for this? ...you mean he doesn't get a promotion for this? but but bowe bergdahlontoirannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-24606116629076681632017-11-22T15:22:27.749-08:002017-11-22T15:22:27.749-08:00A brief note from Captain Dogrobber, Aide de camp ...A brief note from Captain Dogrobber, Aide de camp to the General;<br /><br />"Uhhh, what the General MEANT to say was that he would carry out all lawful orders from competent authority...and would do so with dispatch....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-35271832572166034322017-11-22T14:15:30.524-08:002017-11-22T14:15:30.524-08:00If this guy has achieved four stars bereft of the ...If this guy has achieved four stars bereft of the ability to make it blisteringly clear he'll follow lawful orders instantly and with enthusiasm, he's been promoted far beyond his aptitude, and needs an immediate medic for the bleeding cleat marks in his johnson.<br /><br />As I noted in earlier comments, there was a Discovery documentary onboard a boomer (SSBN-Whatever), in the early 1990s, right around the "ending" of the Cold War (at least with the defunct Soviets) and the boat's captain succinctly and unequivocally elucidated that "If the NCA orders it, these birds will fly!" Period. Full stop. There's no way to parse or misconstrue that.<br /><br />Short answer, General Malfunction needs to be immediately relieved and retired, at minimum. He can defend his remarks and try the "I was misquoted" defense at a general court martial, if he elects to do so. We currently have an embarrassing surplus of jackasses with stars in the military, and one (or a hundred) less would be a superb negative example right about now.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-25816467913301328892017-11-22T05:47:23.095-08:002017-11-22T05:47:23.095-08:00I read what he said, and what was reported (not th...I read what he said, and what was reported (not the same thing), and drew a different conclusion. I don't disagree that his picture was a prototypical AF face - doofus. I think he was explaining that a general in his position is 1) and advisor to the president, not an independent decision-maker; and 2) subject to the same UCMJ - to wit, he has to determine if he's been given a lawful order by a commander. Every swinging Richard in the military has that obligation as a subordinate. Every other SR senior enlisted and officer has the obligation to determine if the order they are about to give is lawful.<br /><br />One or both of the SRs involved could end up in the brig if they don't. That's nothing "new" or "unique" to the Trump era. This is a MSM $hit blizzard about nothing. They're excited that he said he could tell the CinC "no." They think he's "speaking truth to power," whatever that means.<br /><br />The mitigating comments from the general indicated that he's then advise the CinC on what orders would be lawful to give him toward the CinC's goal. <br /><br />Great blog! Keep up the good work.Response39https://www.blogger.com/profile/16933356216193890399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-18703266980630647662017-11-19T15:52:21.040-08:002017-11-19T15:52:21.040-08:00Wall Mart has bananas for 17 cents a pound with a ...Wall Mart has bananas for 17 cents a pound with a rebate.lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011213166003657827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-53603961804861695122017-11-19T11:21:54.179-08:002017-11-19T11:21:54.179-08:00I'll start stocking up bananas if this guy isn...I'll start stocking up bananas if this guy isn't relieved of duty immediately. If the liberal wusses supporting this POS want to live in a "Republic" of that kind, they can reap what they sow. It won't be pretty for them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-2578560649898465372017-11-19T09:34:40.328-08:002017-11-19T09:34:40.328-08:00I once worked for a colonel who explained it as fo...I once worked for a colonel who explained it as follows.<br /><br />"1) You are not expected to follow an unlawful order.<br />2) God help the man in this command, officer or enlisted, who ever thinks I've issued one."<br /><br />As for Mattis, I'd like to hear that Trump ordered him to have that general relieved and arrested, and that if it hadn't been accomplished within one hour, to consider himself fired, and to have his deputy sec def return the call.<br /><br />Once he was in custody, I'd have him sit in the Cabinet conference room under MP guard, while POTUS, SecDef, SecAF, the AF Chief of Staff, and the Attorney General deliberated over whether to bust him to his permanent rank and retire him on the spot, or turn him over to the JAG Corps for court martial, demotion to the lowest enlisted grade, and confinement for a term to be determined after trial. My preference would be for the latter. To whom much is given, much is demanded. Anyone who's risen to four-star rank and hasn't learned to put his motormouth in park is someone desperately seeking to serve as a negative example to the entire US military establishment, and a set of utilities with a big white "P" stenciled on the back would serve that lesson up with the piquant taste of one's one blood after running headfirst into a granite wall.<br /><br />Followed by walking down the hall and holding an on-the-spot press conference on the decision.<br /><br />That news wouldn't travel at light speed, it would travel at warp speed.<br /><br />Only if the UCMJ countenanced throwing the convicted guilty party into a live volcano do I think things could be improved over that.<br /><br />There's a name for the type of republics where generals decide what the elected president may and may not do. This assbag has suggested that's a governmental model to emulate north of the Rio Grande, and simultaneously, he's undermined the actual military deterrence that protects the entire nation.<br /><br />There is little described in the all the annals of history, to include typical Apache hospitality to captured enemies, that would be too extreme a punishment for any general who would openly advocate or accomplish either deed.<br />Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-76546840202313939052017-11-19T08:23:50.632-08:002017-11-19T08:23:50.632-08:00My understanding is the president enters a code in...My understanding is the president enters a code in the "Football" to initiate launch. This General, wherever he is, would not get the option of disobeying an "illegal" order. If he did, he'd be relieved and his deputy would take over - if necessary, all the way down to the sergeant in charge of the pencils.<br />No doubt wrong on that as there's probably many, many hands on buttons to make it a thing but whatever. Doubt if any here know and if they do blog about it so free to speculate.<br />As to firing him; imagine the uproar if the dastardly Trump fired a general because he said he'd refuse an illegal order? Knock the Clinton's and other dirtbags right out of the headlines for months. <br />I want Clinton prosecuted without any distractions.<br />lorenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00011213166003657827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-83168818562650596992017-11-19T06:17:02.562-08:002017-11-19T06:17:02.562-08:00Gotta say I'm betting he'll be in the job ...Gotta say I'm betting he'll be in the job this time next month. Too bad, there was once a ComStratCom who said this country's anger should be feared.<br />Boat GuyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-35222983323488336622017-11-19T02:01:38.493-08:002017-11-19T02:01:38.493-08:00Litmus test time: What Mattis does over the next 4...Litmus test time: What Mattis does over the next 48-120 hours will determine his worth as SecDef; same for the C-in-C. <br /><br />No public announcement need be made, just quietly and quickly replace the mutineer and push him into retirement (he should be court martialed, but everyone's a pussy now). Word will travel at light speed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-66831024819910116592017-11-18T23:57:43.201-08:002017-11-18T23:57:43.201-08:00Leave him with me - or any number of our brothers,...Leave him with me - or any number of our brothers, for a few minutes - or several .....<br />As someone who honored my oath - to the detriment of my own health and future, I or any of my brothers could teach this peacock the price of honor....<br /><br />It suited him - and so many others - to march when the paychecks and benifits and the band was playing to the applause of the ignorant crowd..., now let him be silenced and humiliated forever...<br /><br />To those who decry the service of our military I can only answer that my motives and intent are and were honest and pure.<br />If the motives of politicians and bankers were not, you can take whatever issues you might have to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-55605565618261953122017-11-18T22:57:50.181-08:002017-11-18T22:57:50.181-08:00He should be beaten, tarred, feathered, and left i...He should be beaten, tarred, feathered, and left in the deep desert without water. If he survives that, then he should spend a few years in one of the cells nicknamed "el negro" at Leavenworth.LodeRunnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-55279766414830706572017-11-18T22:00:34.176-08:002017-11-18T22:00:34.176-08:00Mutiny....
Some version of keel-hauling is the onl...Mutiny....<br />Some version of keel-hauling is the only appropriate response .<br />I'll bring popcornAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63247299743613267412017-11-18T20:22:35.236-08:002017-11-18T20:22:35.236-08:00Drew458 for the win...Drew458 for the win...0007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-34391233385043164262017-11-18T18:03:48.797-08:002017-11-18T18:03:48.797-08:00This looks like a real instant career ender. But h...This looks like a real instant career ender. But he need not fear the results of a courts martial: the flyboys will forget to enter his convictions into the criminal system, and he'll walk. That's one thing that they ARE good at.Drew458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-64065401483141885772017-11-18T17:47:36.145-08:002017-11-18T17:47:36.145-08:00I was head intel geek for an A-10 squadron, back i...I was head intel geek for an A-10 squadron, back in the heady days of Desert Storm. If he needs to be retired, I can think of a number of suitable replacements, including one female A-10 pilot (AF Reserve, who's civilian job was teaching general science at a junior high school in Kansas) who won trophies at multiple Air Force Air-to-Mud competitions, (for both bombs and gunnery) and collected two decorations during Desert Storm, for going above and beyond in getting up-close-and-personal with ordnance delivery from said A-10s.<br /><br />Although it's kinda embarrassing when a female officer has more balls than a general.Retired Spookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07162727356116384883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-48837751756420105932017-11-18T15:45:37.198-08:002017-11-18T15:45:37.198-08:00Ahh just testing the old ice and seeing what they ...Ahh just testing the old ice and seeing what they can get away with...They are desperate people and desperate people do desperate things...linemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18180668439619161153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-63810783561293404652017-11-18T15:02:22.117-08:002017-11-18T15:02:22.117-08:00Why isn't his career over?Why isn't his career over?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-14607911028914803352017-11-18T14:47:35.265-08:002017-11-18T14:47:35.265-08:00No, I think he was a jackass in desperate need of ...No, I think he was a jackass in desperate need of a court-martial and shotgun retirement.<br />Anybody who hints that the CinC's orders will be disobeyed has undermined the entire deterent nature of the nation's entire nuclear forces, and needs to be shown the door, at gunpoint, and ideally, with a stay in a cell along the way.<br /><br />What you want is the sub captain on a Discovery Channel doc back in the late 80s-early 90s, who said emphatically "If the president gives the command, these (nuclear Trident) birds will fly!"<br /><br />This guy should be relieved, placed in handcuffs, and confined awaiting trial by court martial. He put 300M Americans at risk. It's not funny, cute, or disinformation.<br />It's destabilization, and it degrades our entire defense apparatus.<br /><br />The civilized word for that is "treasonous".Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-30682350664564694232017-11-18T14:23:52.027-08:002017-11-18T14:23:52.027-08:00Just wondering, but that was exactly a plot point ...Just wondering, but that was exactly a plot point of one of the Clancy novels. Do you think he was just blowing hot air to calm the idiots frothing about Trump's 'finger on the button?'Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11613890024247909200noreply@blogger.com