tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post5427586630790895244..comments2024-03-28T00:38:49.562-07:00Comments on Raconteur Report: You Can't Handle The TruthAesophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-39306275248883168212014-10-05T23:17:48.650-07:002014-10-05T23:17:48.650-07:00While to date an effective HIV vaccine has not bee...While to date an effective HIV vaccine has not been found that doesn't mean that a Filovirus cannot be protected against. Polio is a viral disease and we have VERY effective vaccines against it. The real problem is that while we have known about and played with Ebola for years it was always from the governments "how can I make this a weapon" perspective. Efforts to develop vaccines and treatments weren't very important. Now that they've let the horse out of the barn they are trying to play catch up. Sometimes you get the time to do so.....sometimes you don't.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-45177357955982836492014-10-05T19:17:14.702-07:002014-10-05T19:17:14.702-07:00Total number of viruses we can treat primarily, da...Total number of viruses we can treat primarily, dawn of time until now:<br /><b>zero</b>.<br /><br />If the virus isn't as mutation-slippery as HIV/AIDS, a vaccine at some point is a possibility.<br /><br />The open question is whether a worldwide pandemic beats us to the punch.<br /><br />The project has been a worldwide orphan for decades, because a few thousand starving Africans were never going to make the development and drug roll out worth the costs of the research. <br /><br />The sudden prospect of this going worldwide just a few plane trips away seems to have concentrated everyone's thinking wonderfully, and bumped this up a few rungs on the research and funding priorities ladders.<br /><br />Whether we'll be in time remains to be seen.<br /><br />The next milestone is whether they get any sort of handle on this, or whether the governments of Liberia/Guinea/Sierra Leone collapse, and the infected are suddenly unconstrained from heading outward via feet, canoes, and jet planes at the speed of utter panic.<br />Looking at the numbers, my money is on such a collapse, though I hope and pray I'm proven wrong.<br /><br />Because at that point, the party's in full swing, and we're all on the guest list.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-33895494461544608772014-10-05T07:20:04.892-07:002014-10-05T07:20:04.892-07:00Realistically we have only two possible avenues to...Realistically we have only two possible avenues to prevent a world changing pandemic from this. Either we develop a reasonably effective vaccine....one that isn't as dangerous as the disease OR some genius pulls a rabbit out of his ass and finds an effective AND affordable AND relatively easy to manufacture treatment. Without either of these we are SOOOOOOO screwed.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-922730513710865072014-10-04T18:17:00.127-07:002014-10-04T18:17:00.127-07:00Thanks for the link.
Smallpox was easier to trans...Thanks for the link.<br /><br />Smallpox was easier to transmit, but lethality varied from 1-100% based on type, with an average of about 30%.<br /><br />Ebola is slightly harder to transmit, but lethality varies from 40-ish% (treated) to 90% (untreated).<br />And we have no vaccine for it yet.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-4289311334222087282014-10-04T16:03:34.535-07:002014-10-04T16:03:34.535-07:00Looking at the facts, this has the potential of tu...Looking at the facts, this has the potential of turning into the New Smallpox.<br /><br />Thanks for the sobering info, I linked to this from The Vulgar Curmudgeon.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15695733883033137146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-89698152514469794752014-10-03T18:49:42.454-07:002014-10-03T18:49:42.454-07:00Thanks for the tip.
That information was actuall...Thanks for the tip. <br /><br />That information was actually buried in the bottom of the very article I linked; I was more concerned about how the ward was set up, but the reporter actually included that lab as the "why" they are where they are.<br />Otherwise, I didn't know about NIAID per se, nor that NIH had put a BL4 facility there, and Missoula is reasonably contiguous. So that's a clear connection in three out of four cases with exactly that level of research.<br /><br />So I did some further digging, and came up with the NBAF, the National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility, a big new BL4 lab facility under construction in Manhattan Kansas, to be run by DHS, scheduled to open in 2015.<br />The nearby ward in in Omaha NE. Four out of four, plus the military/strategic reasons I previously cited.<br /><br />Thanks for the nudge.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-76290409632702545942014-10-03T17:55:28.016-07:002014-10-03T17:55:28.016-07:00The BSL 4 in Montana is because of the Rocky Mount...The BSL 4 in Montana is because of the Rocky Mountain Labs, a NIH facility in Hamilton, MontanaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-26696214400627212162014-10-03T11:13:45.517-07:002014-10-03T11:13:45.517-07:00Ice cold water poured right down your back. Excell...Ice cold water poured right down your back. Excellent, sir. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-714028479313834812.post-6791052765865084702014-10-03T10:19:41.748-07:002014-10-03T10:19:41.748-07:00Amen. Ebola does indeed have some airborne potent...Amen. Ebola does indeed have some airborne potential, and we in fact don't have a handle on this yet. However, I do know that a lot of people are scrambling to catch up, not on the gvt side but on the health care side.Historianhttp://www.weebly.comnoreply@blogger.com